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02-21-2009, 10:24 PM
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Montreal and Philadelphia Trade!

To:

Simon Gagne

To:

Mike Komisarek
Jaroslav Halak



Before people jump the gun and say, Gagne is worth more than just those two, please remember he is highly injury prone. Although he has skill, it's not worth a whole lot when your injured, that's why I think Gane's value drops.

Philly gets a shutdown defenseman (Mike Komisarek) that replaces the losses of Jason Smith and Derian Hatcher. By receiving Halak, Philly gets the oppurtunity to move Nittymaki or Biron.

Montreal gets a potential 50 goal scorer, and an impact player who can lead the team in the near future.

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02-21-2009, 10:26 PM
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it's a very good start, a lot more realistic then some of the other proposals, though Philly may want a little more, say a 2nd or 3rd rounder.

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Why would we want to run with Halak over Niittymaki or Biron? And who do you suggest we trade them to?


The Flyers aren't trading Gagne either, so it doesn't even matter. Don't sell us on value. It is meaningless to the Flyers.

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02-21-2009, 10:28 PM
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Philly says no pretty easily I suspect. Komisarek is a UFA and Halak is coming from a similar situation as Biron. If philly goes searching for a goalie, they'll be looking for more of a sure thing.

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As a Flyers fan, I wouldn't do it. But its not an outrageously bad proposal. Komisarek would look great on our D, maybe playing with Carle and Halak could be another try to find a consistent starter in Philly. I just don't think its smart for the Flyers to let go of Gagne.

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02-21-2009, 10:29 PM
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Gagne is going nowhere and Halak doesn't interest me. Komisarek would be great in Philly, though.

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Komisarek is a UFA, and Gagne is signed to a pretty reasonable contract through 2011. No way in hell the Flyers do this.

Even as a habs fan, I don't know if we can afford losing Komisarek given how many goals we've been allowing lately.

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02-21-2009, 10:30 PM
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I didn't throw the pick in, because of Gagne's health in recent years. In my opinion, his value has dropped significantly, due to those head injuries. His health concerns relate a lot to Pat Lafontaine and Patrice Begeron. I doubt the Bruins have given up on Begeron's health, since he is still very young and has a bright future if he does in fact stay healthy. However, Philadelphia has seen enough health problems from Gange, and they have enough future in front of them to give him up. Jeff Carter is their elite primary goal scorer now-a-days.

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the way that gagne has disaappeared over the last couple weeks i think komisarek is a good start....

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A big Never from an Habs point of view. We doesnt need Gagné with the bunch of winger we have and Komo is our next captain

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Gagne NTC he is more valuable to us then that return is. lets talk Briere instead.

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Simon Gagne

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Mike Komisarek
Jaroslav Halak



Before people jump the gun and say, Gagne is worth more than just those two, please remember he is highly injury prone. Although he has skill, it's not worth a whole lot when your injured, that's why I think Gane's value drops.

Philly gets a shutdown defenseman (Mike Komisarek) that replaces the losses of Jason Smith and Derian Hatcher. By receiving Halak, Philly gets the oppurtunity to move Nittymaki or Biron.

Montreal gets a potential 50 goal scorer, and an impact player who can lead the team in the near future.

If Komisarek is signed by the Habs there's no way we trade him and Halak for Gagne. A signed Komisarek is worth more to the Habs than Gagne.

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02-21-2009, 10:36 PM
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Halak is capable of being a number one goalie, he just needs the confidence from the staff. I'm pretty sure Price is the go-to guy, that means Halak gets moved.

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Gagne NTC he is more valuable to us then that return is. lets talk Briere instead.
Briere had the chance to sign with Montreal two summers ago and passed, we don't want him here, unless he comes cheap.

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why is gagne considered injury prone? he had a year of concussions. this year he's been very healthy. where's the logic?

flyers are looking to compete in the playoffs, and you don't trade off productive top-line wingers for a UFA (albeit one that i certainly covet) and a goalie that may or may not be needed.

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Briere had the chance to sign with Montreal two summers ago and passed, we don't want him here, unless he comes cheap.
Briere for Higgins cheap enough??

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Briere for Higgins cheap enough??
give it a rest. briere is not going anywhere. his NMC makes most of this trade discussion a moot point.

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Bad Proposal.
Montreal doesn't need another winger, especially not at the cost of a Komi and Halak.
Not gonna happen.

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Briere for Higgins cheap enough??
Higgins for Gaborik sounds better.

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Bad Proposal.
Montreal doesn't need another winger, especially not at the cost of a Komi and Halak.
Not gonna happen.
Everyone keeps saying that, but what wingers do we honestly have?

Kovalev probably won't return next year.

Higgins is always injured.

Sergei Kostitsyn very unreliable.

I can't think of any other significant wingers other than Andrei Kostitsyn...

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Briere for Higgins cheap enough??
It's better than the original proposal, but I personally don't like briere and we would need to shed more salary in that case. So still no.

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Everyone keeps saying that, but what wingers do we honestly have?

Kovalev probably won't return next year.

Higgins is always injured.

Sergei Kostitsyn very unreliable.

I can't think of any other significant wingers other than Andrei Kostitsyn...
Tanguay? Latandresse? MaxPac? D'Ago?
Even with SKost down and Tanguay injured we still have 6 scoring wingers. That is more than enough. We have a much bigger hole at center.
Next year is not a big concern at this moment...

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Perfect example of where fans wont trade their own players. IMO, Philly says a big no.
Trade is bad though. Too many big players going from 2 playoff bound teams.

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I wouldn't do this deal as a Hab fan.

Komisarek is too important to the team and I would prefer to give the icetime to Pacioretty. I think that he will be as good as Gagne in the future (if not better).

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Gagne NTC he is more valuable to us then that return is. lets talk Briere instead.
The guy who has a no-movement clause instead of just a simple no-trade clause.

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