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02-22-2009, 11:39 AM
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Nathan Horton to NJ

What would it take to get him?

I know most likley he isn't moving but he was mentioned in some rumors, even if it was Eklund ...

would this be enough?

Horton

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1st, Zubrus, Tedenby

Dont crucify because it makes you feel empowered.. just respond and make another offer....

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not even close

seriously...

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What would it take to get him?

I know most likley he isn't moving but he was mentioned in some rumors, even if it was Eklund ...

would this be enough?

Horton

For

1st, Zubrus, Tedenby

Dont crucify because it makes you feel empowered.. just respond and make another offer....
I'm thinking it would take Zajac + 1st

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why would the devils do this? Zubrus has been great for the devils, one of our best forecheckers...

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I'm thinking it would take Zajac + 1st
Zajac is younger and has better numbers.

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I'm thinking it would take Zajac + 1st
more like
Horton + 1st for Zajac

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why would the devils do this? Zubrus has been great for the devils, one of our best forecheckers...
if the devils could land Horton for the original offer they have to do it.

Horton is a Jeff Carter waiting to break out.

Horton should and could easily be a 40g 40a guy, he just isn't happy in florida and he isn't getting great minutes.

Imagine this:

Parise - Zajac - Horton

all young guns who should at least be PPG players.

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more like
Horton + 1st for Zajac
Horton >> Zajac

Zajac actually plays with talented players and gets top line minutes and PP time.

Horton is suffering in Florida.

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Zubrus aint going anywhere.

And No Horton isnt >> Zajac

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I love Horton but he's not the peace Lou is looking for at the moment. This team needs a puck moving d-men and our 1st round pick + Tedenby/Bergfors + Greene will be shipped out for just that and not a RW/C... IMO.

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if the devils could land Horton for the original offer they have to do it.

Horton is a Jeff Carter waiting to break out.

Horton should and could easily be a 40g 40a guy, he just isn't happy in florida and he isn't getting great minutes.

Imagine this:

Parise - Zajac - Horton

all young guns who should at least be PPG players.
that would be a sick line

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Horton would be sick on NJ, but FLA is in a playoff race, don't think they will trade him for picks and prospects

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Horton would be sick on NJ, but FLA is in a playoff race, don't think they will trade him for picks and prospects
Zubrus is a pretty good center, has 32 points compated to Hortons 36...so its not like they are throwing away the season

FLA also gets 1st and tedenby...

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that would be a sick line
my point exactly!

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The Panthers considered moving Horton early in the season, but that time has passed. Nathan has bought into DeBoer's system, made the difficult transition to center and is playing his tail off. Given his very reasonable contract, he will not be going anywhere.

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if the devils could land Horton for the original offer they have to do it.

Horton is a Jeff Carter waiting to break out.

Horton should and could easily be a 40g 40a guy, he just isn't happy in florida and he isn't getting great minutes.

Imagine this:

Parise - Zajac - Horton

all young guns who should at least be PPG players.
He isn't happy in Florida? Isn't getting great minutes? You REALLY don't pay attention to the Panthers, please stop talking about them as if you do. Horton was his own worst enemy until recently when he's finally putting effort into his game. He's also learning to play the center position in the NHL. he's centering Booth and Zednik, and believe me, they're all getting plenty of minutes, DeBoer's not going to keep any of those guys on the bench for any length of time.

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Horton >> Zajac

Zajac actually plays with talented players and gets top line minutes and PP time.

Horton is suffering in Florida.
He's suffering? Have a link with a quote? These were nothing but rumours and Nate's doing just fine on a team on fire that's currently sitting in a playoff spot.

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What would it take to get him?

I know most likley he isn't moving but he was mentioned in some rumors, even if it was Eklund ...

would this be enough?

Horton

For

1st, Zubrus, Tedenby

Dont crucify because it makes you feel empowered.. just respond and make another offer....
no way in hell. that's overpayment for somebody with no playoff experience.
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I'm thinking it would take Zajac + 1st
i'm thinking you're dead wrong.

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The Devils farm system is the worst in hockey. They also have a bunch of guys over achieving on their big club. There really isn't much to want on the Devils.

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Horton >> Zajac

Zajac actually plays with talented players and gets top line minutes and PP time.

Horton is suffering in Florida.
So Booth and Zednik suck? And Horton isnt on the first line and first PP unit? Please. He may not have the luxury of playing with Parise but Booth is a damn good player and Zednik isnt bad either. Here is their ice time:


Travis Zajac: 18:42 TOI/G, 3:10 PP TOI/G, 2:00 SH TOI/G

Nathan Horton: 18:11 TOI/G, 3:41 PP TOI/G, :29 SH TOI/G


Zajac plays 31 more seconds per game but he plays 1 minute and 31 more seconds per game shorthanded and Horton plays 31 more seconds per game on the PP (Is it just me or is it weird how that works out)

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He isn't happy in Florida? Isn't getting great minutes? You REALLY don't pay attention to the Panthers, please stop talking about them as if you do. Horton was his own worst enemy until recently when he's finally putting effort into his game. He's also learning to play the center position in the NHL. he's centering Booth and Zednik, and believe me, they're all getting plenty of minutes, DeBoer's not going to keep any of those guys on the bench for any length of time.



He's suffering? Have a link with a quote? These were nothing but rumours and Nate's doing just fine on a team on fire that's currently sitting in a playoff spot.
LOL, its hilarious how people make comments about our players, when they OBVIOUSLY have no clue what they are talking about. Nate's unhappy huh? Thats a new one? 20 points in his last 22 games sure is suffering to me though Laus

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Why would the Panthers trade Horton when they are in the thick of the playoff race, and especially to a team who they could potentially face in the playoffs? I don't understand the logic of some of these trade proposals..

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Why would the Panthers trade Horton when they are in the thick of the playoff race, and especially to a team who they could potentially face in the playoffs? I don't understand the logic of some of these trade proposals..
He is not going to be traded. Just watch his play on the ice, and the excitement he shows not only when he scores, but when anyone on the team does. He is signed to a great long term contract and since his injury, he has been the player all expected him to be.

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if the devils could land Horton for the original offer they have to do it.

Horton is a Jeff Carter waiting to break out.

Horton should and could easily be a 40g 40a guy, he just isn't happy in Florida and he isn't getting great minutes.
Horton has been averaging the most minutes out of any Panthers forward. Though, Weiss was right up there and it may have changed since the last time I checked, but he certainly gets plenty of time on ice.

As for the brilliant poster who said Zajac is younger:

Horton- May 29, 1985
Zajac- May 13, 1985

Zajac also gets the benefit of playing with Parise...you know...the guy who is fifth in league scoring.


As for people saying Horton is unhappy in Florida, do you have any quotes? Quotes from this year? There was a time when it was rumored he wanted out, but his agent--a Bobby Orr--reportedly told him to shut up and play. In case people have forgotten, Horton sign a six-year deal with the Panthers.

Do people ever actually think about what they post? I mean, all the information is very readily available on the internet and it only takes a couple seconds to pull up and read.


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So Booth and Zednik suck? And Horton isnt on the first line and first PP unit? Please. He may not have the luxury of playing with Parise but Booth is a damn good player and Zednik isnt bad either. Here is their ice time:


Travis Zajac: 18:42 TOI/G, 3:10 PP TOI/G, 2:00 SH TOI/G

Nathan Horton: 18:11 TOI/G, 3:41 PP TOI/G, :29 SH TOI/G


Zajac plays 31 more seconds per game but he plays 1 minute and 31 more seconds per game shorthanded and Horton plays 31 more seconds per game on the PP (Is it just me or is it weird how that works out)
Neither Booth nor Zednik are anywhere near as good as Parise. Booth has been ice cold as far as goal scoring, lately. Zednik has been on a nice little streak, but he's still no Parise.

Despite not having Parise as a line mate, Horton has been a point per game player since returning from injury.

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Zubrus is a pretty good center, has 32 points compated to Hortons 36...so its not like they are throwing away the season

FLA also gets 1st and tedenby...
Zubrus is also much older and unlike Horton unlikely to improve any further.

Horton is a key-player for Florida, and they have no reason to trade him. You want him, you overpay, drastically. Zubrus, prospects and draftpicks aren't going to cut it.

This is neither Fantasy-hockey nor NHL 09, teams don't deal their star-players unless they have a very good reason to. Worse players aren't a good reason, neither is quantity. Florida isn't in the basement looking to dismantle their team, they are in the playoff-ranks and not exactly on their way down either.

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