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02-25-2009, 03:02 PM
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Now Moore is somebody I'm sure the Canucks are interested in. How about a 2nd rounder for Moore if the Leafs can't resign him by the deadline.

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Now Moore is somebody I'm sure the Canucks are interested in. How about a 2nd rounder for Moore if the Leafs can't resign him by the deadline.
That'd be fair.

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That's a worse deal than the original offer in my opinion. I'm not trying to flame, but there's just no way Vancouver would do this.



The only one of those deals that is even close to being fair value-wise is the Antropov for Schneider swap. However, the chances of Schneider being dealt before Luongo resigns (or doesn't resign as the case may be) are slim to none.
What in your opinion makes it a worse deal? Value-wise, it's one of the better Van-Tor deals, even though a Van-Tor deal is 100% not going to happen.

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no deal that makes the canucks' youngest defenseman 27.

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No Deal.

Don't want Antropov, wouldn't get him for that anyway.

Kaberle would be nice but giving up Edler for him is pretty useless (as far as improving defensive depth now AND in the future)

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02-25-2009, 03:49 PM
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What in your opinion makes it a worse deal? Value-wise, it's one of the better Van-Tor deals, even though a Van-Tor deal is 100% not going to happen.
As many people have pointed out, trading Kaberle for Edler is virtually a wash from a Vancouver perspective. Kaberle would an amazing addition to the Canucks and immediately beef up their off-again on-again powerplay, but he isn’t that much of an improvement over Edler when you consider age, contract and defensive play. I honestly would not trade Edler for Kaberle straight up. No offense to Kaberle, I just think Edler is a great asset to have.

Antropov for Schneider is pretty fair value-wise. I just don’t think Schneider will be traded prior to the Luongo situation being resolved.

That leaves Pogge and Stajan for Grabner and a 1st round pick in 2009. I think Grabner, at this point in time, has a much better chance of turning into a legitimate top-six player than Pogge does of turning into a starting goalie. They’re both prospects so anything can happen, but if I had to put money on it, I would definitely bet on Grabner. As for Stajan, I just don’t think he’s worth a first round pick in 2009…maybe I’m undervaluing him, but that’s my opinion.

Basically the deal gets worse because in addition to trading away three of their most talented youngsters, Vancouver also sacrifices their ability to draft replacement prospects when they trade away their 1st round pick in 2009. In return, they get Pogge, who really isn’t looking good right now, and Stajan, who doesn’t particularly fill a need in Vancouver.

I agree that the chances of a Tor-Van deal going down are slim to none.

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[QUOTE=mydnyte;18156915]To Vancouver:
Kaberle
Antropov

To Toronto
Edler
Schneider
Grabner

Deal- if we get a 1st round pick too dosnt matter of its 09 or 10,, nothing later though.,

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