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02-26-2009, 02:18 PM
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I don't think we can trade Coburn when there is a possibility for JayBo to walk, our defense would be in shambles next year if so. If he is signed, then fine, I'm down.
Exactly my thoughts.

I'm sure Holmgren would rather Jones and a 1st with no condition, rather than risking losing Coburn.

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02-26-2009, 02:20 PM
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FAN590 in Toronto is speculating that the Flyers are really interested in making a play on JBo. It's rumoured that JM wants a package of Lupul, Coburn and conditional 1st based on whether he signs or not.

If true, this would make it Lupuls 4th team in 7 years, and Coburns 3rd team in 5 years.



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That's a tough pill to swallow. You have to give to get (or so they tell me). I would probably pull the trigger...however...I would certainly try to pay with other assets such as Jones/Carle etc

What I was thinking of today, just imagine how great it would be to have Jay Bouwmeester signed for say the next 5 years? A hockey fan's wet dream.

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02-26-2009, 02:21 PM
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Yea I would even throw in Carle and a 1st, no condition.

Haha if that deal were to go down though, that would mean we turned Pitkanen and Freddy Meyer into Jay Bouwmeester...Now THAT'S trade value at its finest

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02-26-2009, 02:22 PM
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FAN590 in Toronto is speculating that the Flyers are really interested in making a play on JBo. It's rumoured that JM wants a package of Lupul, Coburn and conditional 1st based on whether he signs or not.

If true, this would make it Lupuls 4th team in 7 years, and Coburns 3rd team in 5 years.



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Doesn't work in terms of salary or value for me.

1) That's not enough salary going out and it would require the Flyers to drop a roster player with significant salary, which would make that deal worse then it appears.

2) In line with #1, Coburn makes $1.3 mil next year and Bouwmeester will make at least $5 mil more then that. When you factor in that difference in salary and what it would require the Flyers to do this year and next year, it further cements the no for me.

Change Coburn to Carle, add an asset to make up the difference (2010 first perhaps, something along those lines) and you've got a deal.

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02-26-2009, 02:32 PM
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Yeah I think the Coburn talk is BS.

Carle or Jones are available for sure

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02-26-2009, 02:37 PM
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The only good thing we have going here is that Florida basically has to deal him before the deadline if he isn't going to sign. Hopefully Homer can pull of some of his magic and give them a deal that doesn't involve Coburn.

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02-26-2009, 02:44 PM
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ok ill bite and play the guess the package for Bouwmeester game lol

to Florida Joffrey Lupul, Matt Carle and a conditional 1st.(signing a extension)

to the Flyers Jay Bouwmeester

now I have maintained that Bouwmeester will want to test free agency this offseason unless either Florida or the team he gets traded to blows him away with above market value.
There are also rumors that the Panthers may be willing to let teams talk money with J-Bo in an potential trade. I dont think 5.5-6 million per gets it done for Bouwmeester.

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02-26-2009, 02:46 PM
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Well, not exactly sure of the numbers, and dont really feel like looking it up, but I don't believe the cap hits would add up for us to do a deal like lups + cobie + cond1st
I think the flyers look along the lines of lups + carle + nodl + cond 1st.
Just my opinion.

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If we get him I hope he signs for the same or less than Kimmo

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TO PHI:

Boynton, Tarnasky

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Lupul, 4th

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02-26-2009, 02:49 PM
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Knowing Homer, I think he'd offer him 10 years at $6-6.5 mil. In this economy and with that much job security, I think that offer would be REAL tough for him to turn down.

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I'd do Lupul and Coburn and J-Bouw and a middling prospect assuming we could sign J-Bouw to a reasonable price.

As much as we all love Coburn, J-Bouw gives us either an unbelievably filthy top pairing or (preferably) an outstanding top-4 with 2 awesome pairings.

We need to dump Lupul's salary anyways too.

EDIT: I should add that I'd trade Coburn ahead of Carle in only this instance just because there's absolutely no way we could afford to pay J-Bouw, Coburn, and Kimmo and I don't want to trade Carle, Lupul, and a 1st for a rental.

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02-26-2009, 02:51 PM
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If we can get Bouwmeester and get him signed to an extension without parting with Coburn I will forgive Holmer for any past transgressions with this hockey team.

A top 3 of Timonen,Bouwmeester and Coburn?

thinking of that almost gives me an erection. almost.

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02-26-2009, 02:54 PM
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Boynton, Tarnasky

TO FLA:

Lupul, 4th
Love Boynton, bring him over.

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I'd do Lupul and Coburn and J-Bouw and a middling prospect assuming we could sign J-Bouw to a reasonable price.

As much as we all love Coburn, J-Bouw gives us either an unbelievably filthy top pairing or (preferably) an outstanding top-4 with 2 awesome pairings.

We need to dump Lupul's salary anyways too.

EDIT: I should add that I'd trade Coburn ahead of Carle in only this instance just because there's absolutely no way we could afford to pay J-Bouw, Coburn, and Kimmo and I don't want to trade Carle, Lupul, and a 1st for a rental.
notice i said conditional 1st, meaning he would be signed, meaning not a rental.

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I just dont see us making a huge move this trade deadline....so im not even getting involved with J-BO conversations. I could see Pronger here before JBO.

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02-26-2009, 03:03 PM
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As much as I love to see JBO in philly I think a deal for Pronger seems much more realistic at this point, and I'd rather keep Coburn than give him up and get JBO

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As much as I love to see JBO in philly I think a deal for Pronger seems much more realistic at this point, and I'd rather keep Coburn than give him up and get JBO
The Ducks are going to be looking for LWs now, something we can't afford.

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02-26-2009, 03:13 PM
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The Ducks are going to be looking for LWs now, something we can't afford.

I think the Ducks are going to be calling up someone like Mancari or Kennedy from Portland. I think either one of them can give them what Kunitz did.

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02-26-2009, 03:15 PM
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I think the Ducks are going to be calling up someone like Mancari or Kennedy from Portland. I think either one of them can give them what Kunitz did.
I don't think any team would call up a player with the assumption they will be a top 6 winger. If they do, and it works, kudos...However, logic tells me otherwise.

Maybe i'm wrong, I just think they are going to use Pronger/Neids to bolster their offense again.

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02-26-2009, 03:20 PM
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****, I really dont wanna give up Coburn

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I don't think any team would call up a player with the assumption they will be a top 6 winger. If they do, and it works, kudos...However, logic tells me otherwise.

Maybe i'm wrong, I just think they are going to use Pronger/Neids to bolster their offense again.
Well what are they doing then? Are they sellers, or do they have something else already lined up in dealing Pronger or Neids.
There was a story on yahoo(I think it was puckdaddy) that organization might be heading to be sellers at the trade deadline. Pronger and Neids might both be heading out.

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Coburn or Parent in a deal for Bouwmeester just doesn't make sense.

And just throwing this out there: does anyone think Greg Campbell might make some sense?


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Coburn or Parent in a deal for Bouwmeester just doesn't make sense.

And just throwing this out there: does anyone think Greg Campbell might make some sense?
what, so we have some kind of leverage with his dad?

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what, so we have some kind of leverage with his dad?
Wow, that didn't take long.

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