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03-02-2009, 03:35 AM
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Tkachuk thinks The Blues have a reasonable chance, and , therefore, won't likely waive his NTC. He did a big favour for The Blues by waiving his previous NTC to go to Atlanta, and re-sign later. The Blues can't ask him to do that again, especially when there is a chance the team could make it in, and play decently.

I'll be shocked if Tkachuk is traded now.

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03-02-2009, 09:52 AM
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I had a dream the Blues worked some 3-way trade and ended up with Pikka Renne, but gave up Backes and some prospects or picks (it was a dream, the details were hazy). I think Washington was the 3rd team involved, and I can't remember how.

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03-02-2009, 10:16 AM
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Tkachuk thinks The Blues have a reasonable chance, and , therefore, won't likely waive his NTC. He did a big favour for The Blues by waiving his previous NTC to go to Atlanta, and re-sign later. The Blues can't ask him to do that again, especially when there is a chance the team could make it in, and play decently.

I'll be shocked if Tkachuk is traded now.
I agree with Robb, Tkachuk did us a favor letting us trade him before I can't see them asking him to do it again and even if they did he wouldn't do it unless he wanted to go to a legitimate cup contender.

We are lucky Tkachuk,Weight could of said no like Mats Sundin and the rest of the Maple Leafs did.That would of set us back.

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Tkachuk thinks The Blues have a reasonable chance, and , therefore, won't likely waive his NTC. He did a big favour for The Blues by waiving his previous NTC to go to Atlanta, and re-sign later. The Blues can't ask him to do that again, especially when there is a chance the team could make it in, and play decently.

I'll be shocked if Tkachuk is traded now.
The Blues gave over 60 Million "favors" to Tkachuk over his 7+ years here.

I think Tkachuk still owes St. Louis AND the Blues for the crazy contract that he received in compensation.

Especailly with KT being one of the highest paid players in the entire NHL at the time with his $40 Million 4 year contract...only to do not much at all in the playoffs for OUR Blues!

I could care less if KT had to play 2 months in "Atlanta".

It's not like we sent him to a 3rd world country. He had a shot in the playoffs.

You know how many people in this economy are moving and relocating to save there jobs right now....

I don't want to hear the Blues owe KT ANYTHING!

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03-02-2009, 12:50 PM
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Regarding KT: How is 25 points in 37 playoff games indicative of choking? He could have scored more, but these numbers do not scream "choke".

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Regarding KT: How is 25 points in 37 playoff games indicative of choking? He could have scored more, but these numbers do not scream "choke".
The playoffs have less scoring than the regular season, due to more intense defence. So, 25 points in 37 games isn't all that terrible.


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03-02-2009, 12:55 PM
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Regarding KT: How is 25 points in 37 playoff games indicative of choking? He could have scored more, but these numbers do not scream "choke".
Very true. Consider his years with Demitra on his line.
In the playoffs Demitra became a "don't give me the puck" perimeter player, leaving Walt on his own to try and score.
If Walt choked - it was Demitra that had his hands around his neck.

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03-02-2009, 02:37 PM
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The Blues gave over 60 Million "favors" to Tkachuk over his 7+ years here.

I think Tkachuk still owes St. Louis AND the Blues for the crazy contract that he received in compensation.

Especailly with KT being one of the highest paid players in the entire NHL at the time with his $40 Million 4 year contract...only to do not much at all in the playoffs for OUR Blues!

I could care less if KT had to play 2 months in "Atlanta".

It's not like we sent him to a 3rd world country. He had a shot in the playoffs.

You know how many people in this economy are moving and relocating to save there jobs right now....

I don't want to hear the Blues owe KT ANYTHING!
I don't think anybody really cares what you want to hear. The Blues owe KT what remains on his contract. KT has a NTC so that pretty much is the end of discussion.

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03-02-2009, 05:23 PM
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the espn article has the pens scouting the blues.......what does pgh. have that they "would be willing to trade" that the blues would want?

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03-02-2009, 05:27 PM
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the espn article has the pens scouting the blues.......what does pgh. have that they would be willing to trade that the blues would want?
it has the pens scouting the blues. Shouldn't your question be what is it that the Blues have the the Pens want that Pittsburgh is willing to trade for?

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it has the pens scouting the blues. Shouldn't your question be what is it that the Blues have the the Pens want that Pittsburgh is willing to trade for?
that may be true, but it takes two to dance.....i just don't see us as trading partners.:

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Regarding KT: How is 25 points in 37 playoff games indicative of choking? He could have scored more, but these numbers do not scream "choke".
KT also has 382 points in 457 regular-season games played for the Blues. So, in 494 total games played (regular season and playoffs) for the St. Louis Blues, Keith Tkachuk has 407 points.

This is hardly a choke job. In fact, these numbers are pretty damned good.

What this boils down to is that, on average, KT has scored at least one point in over 82% of the games in which he's played. That's pretty awesome!

Gee........calculators are cool!

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03-03-2009, 01:16 PM
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Satan on Waivers

Anybody here think he'd fit well?

We would not have to give any players to get him, just pay the rest of his salary, which would be ~$800k. And his contract expires at the end of the season.

Also Brendan Morrison is on waivers too.

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03-03-2009, 01:23 PM
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I don't want any teams' waiver fodder. No to Satan. No to Morrison. No to Roberts. Our own players are better alternatives than these guys.

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the question is, do any of these players address a need for this team? I really only think Roberts would be valuable to the team as a leader/play-off performer. At that point I think we need to move Hinote first.

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03-03-2009, 01:38 PM
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it has the pens scouting the blues. Shouldn't your question be what is it that the Blues have the the Pens want that Pittsburgh is willing to trade for?
I'd say we inquired about Ryan Whitney but JD wasn't willing to give up what they asked for. Kunitz's 38 points this year is comparable to Berglund's, Backes', or Perron's production this year.

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[QUOTE=ChicagoBlues;18304832]Anybody here think he'd fit well?

We would not have to give any players to get him, just pay the rest of his salary, which would be ~$800k. And his contract expires at the end of the season.

Any problems in Pitt other than just not producing like they would like? I think the fit would be ok, I think that the locker room is pretty strong. I read where he has 17 goals and 19 assists in 65 games. He might add some more scoring to the 3rd line?

Thoughts?

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We would not have to give any players to get him, just pay the rest of his salary, which would be ~$800k. And his contract expires at the end of the season.

Any problems in Pitt other than just not producing like they would like? I think the fit would be ok, I think that the locker room is pretty strong. I read where he has 17 goals and 19 assists in 65 games. He might add some more scoring to the 3rd line?

Thoughts?
I'd like Satan in St. Louis. We could push Winchester back down to Earth and the third line where he belongs.

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03-04-2009, 11:40 AM
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According to Hockey Buzz, Satan cleared waivers.

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http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/mor...uk-heads-home/

http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/mor...turns-to-rink/

I've got a sinking feeling.

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Not bad depending on what is coming back. If this is another Salvador for Janssen trade where we pretty much just accept any crap coming back, I hate it. If the Blues playing hardball and not wanting to move Tkachuk led to a team overpaying for him, then so be it. Can't wait to see what's left under the tree.

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If he is dealt, it better be damn good.

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Deal may be in the works for Tkachuk

"Deal may be close to being finalized for Tkachuk"
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Guerin was traded for a 5th round pick. We had better get more than that.

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03-04-2009, 07:57 PM
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well I am incredibly glad I didn't take the day off of work for that.

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03-04-2009, 08:13 PM
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Same here. I'm grossly disappointed. I didn't expect Tkachuk to be moved. I didn't even expect any major moves. But I expected maybe a player to help us into the playoffs. Antropov goes for a 2nd rounder. We couldn't match that? Tellqvist goes for a 4th rounder. We couldn't up it? Both of those moves would have gone a long ways towards seeing if we can make a playoff push.

This deadline, to me, means management doesn't care if we get in. They played it safe. If we get in, it makes them look good. If not, "Oh well, we tried. It was a long short." No real effort put towards this team for the playoff push.

Very disappointed.

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