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What would it take to get Smyth or Hejduk to the Preds?

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02-28-2009, 11:22 PM
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What would it take to get Smyth or Hejduk to the Preds?

With David Poile's declaration that he's looking for a scorer and intends to be a buyer at the deadline, these are two names that have been mentioned as possible targets.

All picks and prospects outside Jon Blum and Colin Wilson are available...and from the roster, Hamhuis could possibly be had(though I would imagine the Preds would have to feel comfortable with the idea of signing anyone they'd trade for Hamhuis).

What would it take?

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I don't know. Both have NTC's. Hejduk IMO is unlikely to be dealt. He is the cheaper of the 2 and has played his entire career here.


For Smyth, maybe Hamhuis and Pickard?

I don't know.

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i think it was stated earlier in the season that hejduk has no interest in leaving denver.

For smyth, i think the isles would love the idea of pickard+. Their top 3 goalies are budaj, raycrap, and delmas (chl). I dont know if the preds are looking to add this much salary long-term though, or if smyth would waive for nashville.

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02-28-2009, 11:58 PM
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i think it was stated earlier in the season that hejduk has no interest in leaving denver.

For smyth, i think the isles would love the idea of pickard+. Their top 3 goalies are budaj, raycrap, and delmas (chl). I dont know if the preds are looking to add this much salary long-term though, or if smyth would waive for nashville.
I think you mean Avs.

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All picks and prospects outside Jon Blum and Colin Wilson are available...
Why would you hold Blum to be sacred here? You have Weber and Suiter and still more offensively capable young defensive depth on the prospect side coming out your rear-ends with Franson and Sulzer there too.

I understand that he is a great prospect and that it'd be preferable to wait until his value goes up more from showing himself in the NHL, but its an area of strength you can deal from, and he should be very valuable for many teams with great shortages on the puck moving D side.

Considering Nashville's strengths and weaknesses, point getting D's would be were you could deal from without it hurting you. Blum is hardly slated in to be can't miss anytime soon.

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The Preds have been in the playoffs the last four seasons if that is what you are talking about. Grant it we've been booted out of the first round those last four, but in nonetheless.

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Hamhuis, Pickard, and a conditional pick for Smyth

conditional pick kicking in if you make the playoffs, and improving if you get past the first round...

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Can Nashville afford Smyth's contract? There must be cheaper options out there.

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Hamhuis, Pickard, and a conditional pick for Smyth

conditional pick kicking in if you make the playoffs, and improving if you get past the first round...
That's a not a bad deal at all. The Preds have enough defensive talent in the pipeline to last them for years, Hamhuis at this point isn't a necessity. If Rinne can stay consistent then we have the perfect young goaltender right there (although judging by the trend in Nashville goaltending over the past few years, we're going to need a new starter next season...) and we know we aren't going to make it past the first round so the pick shouldn't be more than a 2nd or 3rd rounder at most...

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Can Nashville afford Smyth's contract? There must be cheaper options out there.
No, they can not. I don't think Smyth is a good option for us

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No, they can not. I don't think Smyth is a good option for us
What, you have well over 10 million in cap space remaining this year.

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What, you have well over 10 million in cap space remaining this year.
Doesn't mean they can spend to the cap.

Same thing with a lot of teams offering a highly-paid player to Phoenix because they have the space....

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What, you have well over 10 million in cap space remaining this year.
Financially I think he means.

That's a lot of money out of the owners' pockets.

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Financially I think he means.

That's a lot of money out of the owners' pockets.
I see. Actually, The Avs have already paid more than half of his actual salary, as the back half of his contract isn't really that much.

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I see. Actually, The Avs have already paid more than half of his actual salary, as the back half of his contract isn't really that much.
This is true. According to NHL numbers...
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7.250 is this year's salary. But 6.5 is still a lot of money for this team. He'd be the most expensive player in franchise history. Smyth is not worth that title.

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I see. Actually, The Avs have already paid more than half of his actual salary, as the back half of his contract isn't really that much.
It's still 6.5, 5.5 and 4.5 for the next three years. It's a small discount from his cap hit, but nothing too huge.

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No chance. Preds will NEVER take that contract (and I never say never).

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Hamhuis, Pickard, and a conditional pick for Smyth
Tempting... what about Dekanich instead of Pickard?

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I didn't realize Smyth still had THAT much time left on his contract. Probably rules him out for us.

Hejduk is UFA, isn't he? I know he'd like to stay in Colorado...but why not make the move, then resign, a la Tkachuk\Weight?

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Hejduk is UFA, isn't he? I know he'd like to stay in Colorado...but why not make the move, then resign, a la Tkachuk\Weight?
He has another year left.

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Hamhuis, Pickard, and a conditional pick for Smyth

conditional pick kicking in if you make the playoffs, and improving if you get past the first round...

Maybe for Hejduk but not Smyth, the contract doesn't jive with Nashville and that's WAY too much strain on Nashville's system.

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The Preds are better served to be sellers, not buyers, at the deadline.

Unless they get a signed guy in return, i suppose. They have a plethora of defense prospects available. They could ditch one or two for a signed and proven forward. Might be hard to find a partner at the deadline, though.

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The Preds are better served to be sellers, not buyers, at the deadline.

Unless they get a signed guy in return, i suppose. They have a plethora of defense prospects available. They could ditch one or two for a signed and proven forward. Might be hard to find a partner at the deadline, though.
How do you figure? They're a point out, red-hot, and have GIH on a few of the teams immediately above them, as well as several H2H games with Columbus, who is two points ahead.

I could see them jettisoning some UFAs...Radek Bonk to a team who needs a PK\faceoff specialist, De Vries to someone who needs a veteran bottom pairing guy with playoff experience...but I don't see them going into full-on "sell" mode, and do think they'd be well served to add a little more scoring punch.

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How much is Hamhuis making? Maybe the Avs can take on bad contract to even things out?

Hamhuis, Chet, salary dump, 1st would be more than fair.

Smyth is only making 5 million per season after next year, so shed some salary by giving us another player and the Preds' won't increase their payroll by much.

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