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03-01-2009, 10:57 AM
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Then the Sabres are fine with renting him themselves because they don't have anyone who can step in.
What is Buffalo prepared to pony up to keep him though?

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03-01-2009, 11:01 AM
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I tend to agree, teams like Boston and Detriot are going to have to move some younger pieces to fit under the cap in 2010.

I've also felt Fillpula was the odd-man out.
As a wings fan, I'm hoping his contract looks the same as Kronwall's does when Filppula develops his game further in a year or two. People originally thought 3mil for a man made of glass was overpayment and undeserved, but shortly afterwards was touted as "Nik Jr.", now his contract looks like a bargain. Unfortunately, I too feel as if Filppula is the odd man out... Time will tell.

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What would you be OK with giving up realistically?
Well it depends, obviously since he is on your team you value him more than i would. we've been hearing names like klesla and a pick around here. So with all due respect I would think something like Klesla and a 2nd round pick would sound interesting. Especially if he is a rental.

But hey Im a newcomer to this stuff so my knowledge might not be as solid as others from the CBJ board.

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I think I might actually be ok with Klesla and a 2nd. Ofcourse I'd ask for Kesla and a first, or even just a first

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What is Buffalo prepared to pony up to keep him though?
They might just keep him for the year and let him go in free agency. I don't think they give him more than a year or two over three million.

But if the Sabres get a center, he becomes their most trade-able asset. He'd probably be worth about a 2nd and a decent prospect or something like that.

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Right, I guess the point is that we are supposedly "buyers". So if we move connolly because we don't want o lose him for nothing then DR our GM has stated we would most likely flip whatever we get for him and get a Center of our own. But he also stated that it wouldn't be a rental, it would be someone signed through atleast next year as well.

I don't think we trade Connolly unless we basically have something already lined up where we can replace him the same day comming up

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Well it depends, obviously since he is on your team you value him more than i would. we've been hearing names like klesla and a pick around here. So with all due respect I would think something like Klesla and a 2nd round pick would sound interesting. Especially if he is a rental.

But hey Im a newcomer to this stuff so my knowledge might not be as solid as others from the CBJ board.
Value wise I think that is a good offer. Problem is that Buffalo is actually has a lot of good young defenders in their system: Sekera, Butler, Weber, Myers, TJ Brennan, Funk, Gragnani, Persson.

Center is another story, with Roy and Connolly as the only skill centers, and in the system Zagrapan and Kennedy are a bit of question marks still.

So, while Klesa and a 2nd would be good value it does not fit the needs of the Sabres very well. They would have to make some other move(s) to bolster the Center position.

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Value wise I think that is a good offer. Problem is that Buffalo is actually has a lot of good young defenders in their system: Sekera, Butler, Weber, Myers, TJ Brennan, Funk, Gragnani, Persson.

Center is another story, with Roy and Connolly as the only skill centers, and in the system Zagrapan and Kennedy are a bit of question marks still.

So, while Klesa and a 2nd would be good value it does not fit the needs of the Sabres very well. They would have to make some other move(s) to bolster the Center position.
They may be able to flip Klesla to a third team as part of a package for a center...

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Chicago should have huge interest in Connolly, a center who can keep up with the Hawk's fast wingers. He would probably bump Toews to second line with Sharp.

He's not great on faceoffs but man what an addition he would be for them.

Of course, he is a constant threat to be injured long term. You couldn't put him out there with Havlat or the two of them might kill one another in a freak accident.

And the fact he is impending UFA of course lowers his value.

Connolly for Beach, Sabres add second round pick if he doesn't resign or fails to play any playoff games and Hawks add second round pick (their own) if he does resign?

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I like it. i like it. Change of scenery would be good for connolly. To bad he's not as good or healthy as my NHL08 game makes him. He leads the league in scoring every year.

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Any idea what Connolly's camp is looking for in terms of a contract?

I think any team that goes overboard with an offer to him is taking a big risk, given his history of being injured so often.

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Chicago should have huge interest in Connolly, a center who can keep up with the Hawk's fast wingers. He would probably bump Toews to second line with Sharp.

He's not great on faceoffs but man what an addition he would be for them.

Of course, he is a constant threat to be injured long term. You couldn't put him out there with Havlat or the two of them might kill one another in a freak accident.

And the fact he is impending UFA of course lowers his value.

Connolly for Beach, Sabres add second round pick if he doesn't resign or fails to play any playoff games and Hawks add second round pick (their own) if he does resign?
No offense but don't the hawks already have a high offense stacked team that can spend whatever they need to make the playoffs. How bout letting the little guy get in there one time

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Any idea what Connolly's camp is looking for in terms of a contract?

I think any team that goes overboard with an offer to him is taking a big risk, given his history of being injured so often.
I'd think he and his agent need to take some hindsight into consideration... He needs to prove he can carry the mail like this for a full season, uninterrupted. I don't think a 2 year deal would be asking a lot, it would give him time to get his affairs in order, with the security of the extra year as sort of a proving year.


I agree with not giving him an overboard offer, I think 3 years is pushing it at this stage for him.

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Connolly for Peca?

But seriously, Connolly and Tallinder for Peca and Klesla.

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Connolly for Peca?

But seriously, Connolly and Tallinder for Peca and Klesla.
wait.... hmm....

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Connolly for Peca?

But seriously, Connolly and Tallinder for Peca and Klesla.
LOL

nooooo

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How exactly is this a problem? Any of these guys can be moved to the wing at any time. Having all of these 'center's' isn't a problem whatsoever.
Maybe the part where it says "CAPABLE PLAYMAKERS"

You can't move Malhotra to the wing and magically he's making plays... just like if I move you to the blocked list you won't magically start reading and thinking progressively

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Chicago should have huge interest in Connolly, a center who can keep up with the Hawk's fast wingers. He would probably bump Toews to second line with Sharp.

He's not great on faceoffs but man what an addition he would be for them.

Of course, he is a constant threat to be injured long term. You couldn't put him out there with Havlat or the two of them might kill one another in a freak accident.

And the fact he is impending UFA of course lowers his value.

Connolly for Beach, Sabres add second round pick if he doesn't resign or fails to play any playoff games and Hawks add second round pick (their own) if he does resign?
Hmm, Beach would be interesting. Size, toughness, center position, young. I think he would fit some of the things Darcy said he was interested in. I think there could be a potential trade there.

edit: nm, I thought for some reason Beach was a center.

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LOL

nooooo
Lmao.

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Maybe the part where it says "CAPABLE PLAYMAKERS"

You can't move Malhotra to the wing and magically he's making plays... just like if I move you to the blocked list you won't magically start reading and thinking progressively

lrn2read
duuuuhhhh....learn to read the entire thread...............

Oh no! You might move me to the blocked list????? Please, say it ain't so!!!!!!!!!!!

"Thinking progressively" wtf?

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If the Blue Jackets were to trade for Connolly it's going to most likely be picks and prospects, not a roster player.

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If the Blue Jackets were to trade for Connolly it's going to most likely be picks and prospects, not a roster player.
Unless its a defenseman, and Sabres fans have made it clear they need forwards first right now...

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Unless its a defenseman, and Sabres fans have made it clear they need forwards first right now...
Like I said, I think if we trade Connolly to another "buyer" we really just want the most valuable asset that team will give up. Be it 2nd rounders, prospects, whatever. We MUST then flip those for a center of our own that is signed through more than just this year, or else we might as well keep connolly as our own rental.

So a defensemen is fine, we'd most likely flip that D man for a center from someone who is selling

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I don't like the idea of giving up Klesla for Connolly.

I think Klesla will be a more valuable trading chip in the offseason.

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I don't like the idea of giving up Klesla for Connolly.

I think Klesla will be a more valuable trading chip in the offseason.
I tend to agree. We will need Klesla to round out our top 4--Methot, Backman, Rome or Russell in our top 4 isn't going to be good enough, imo.

If we move Klesla for a center, I would suspect Howson to add another d.

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