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03-02-2009, 12:30 PM
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lol Briere and a 1st for a 4th rounder...that must be that buffalo logic that keeps Vanek over Briere, Drury, Connolly and a **** load of 1st rounders....
you're forgeting they want a 3rd too

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This requires Quigier to admit they screwed up going after Drury instead of Briere, and that they low-balled him with that 5/25 offer a week before FA. Which is not going to happen.

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03-02-2009, 12:34 PM
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lol Briere and a 1st for a 4th rounder...that must be that buffalo logic that keeps Vanek over Briere, Drury, Connolly and a **** load of 1st rounders....
Right, because that was the choice.

Vanek 7m/per

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Briere 6.5m/per, Drury 7m/per, Connolly 3.5m/per and a **** load of 1st rounders

Those two options obviously yield the exact same cap hit.

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It's always Kristen Bell, so it's not that random.

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Oh, my bad. How did they make room?
Waived our depth players. We now have a roster of only 20 players. Not very ideal.

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lol Briere and a 1st for a 4th rounder...that must be that buffalo logic that keeps Vanek over Briere, Drury, Connolly and a **** load of 1st rounders....
that's not even remotely accurate.

Funny how both Philly and NY somewhat regret their overpayments now... meanwhile we are plenty happy with Vanek.

Briere is on his 2nd major long term groin injury... enjoy the next 6 years of that cap hit.

Drury has not lived up to the billing in NY either.

Buffalo made the right decision on Briere, and Drury chose NY over Buffalo.

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That contract for Briere is ridiculous. Compared to what Zetterberg/Datsyuk/Ovie signed for. Briere isn't even close talent wise.

Also, even if we dump Tima nd max to get Briere what the hell do the Sabres do next year when Poms and Millers massive extensive price is equated in? We could only afford Briere until the end of this year.

Ridiculous

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That contract for Briere is ridiculous. Compared to what Zetterberg/Datsyuk/Ovie signed for. Briere isn't even close talent wise.

Also, even if we dump Tima nd max to get Briere what the hell do the Sabres do next year when Poms and Millers massive extensive price is equated in? We could only afford Briere until the end of this year.

Ridiculous

They were not free agents, all three would make at least $1.5-$2M more then Briere in the open market

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I'd be scared to take Briere back with his injuries as of late. He's no Wade Redden, but I'd much rather see Buffalo get a bigger, grittier center with a better defensive upside. Philly's overpaying him, true, but that's only because their center depth is so insane that he's a third liner at this point. That's a good problem to have.

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That contract for Briere is ridiculous.
Its really not. The cap hit for a PPG player is reasonable. The length is too much, but that cap hit is not.

Do I think Buffalo should take on that contract? No, I do not. Its not a fit for Buffalo, and not how they operate. If they wanted Briere, they would have signed him before free agency instead of letting him walk.

But $6.5M for a team that is looking for a PPG player is simply not ridiculous. Slightly overpaid maybe, but certainly not ridiculous.

The NMC clause makes any Briere trade talk moot, not his contract. There are certainly teams who would take his production at his cap hit, despite the length of term.

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Please no.....we have too many soft players on our team already....we need to add grit and Briere does not fit that.

Pass, no matter what the deal is.

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No, he's really not.

He's overpaid as a 3rd line center on the Flyers. Big difference.
Yes he really is. Really.

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Its really not. The cap hit for a PPG player is reasonable. The length is too much, but that cap hit is not.

Do I think Buffalo should take on that contract? No, I do not. Its not a fit for Buffalo, and not how they operate. If they wanted Briere, they would have signed him before free agency instead of letting him walk.

But $6.5M for a team that is looking for a PPG player is simply not ridiculous. Slightly overpaid maybe, but certainly not ridiculous.

The NMC clause makes any Briere trade talk moot, not his contract. There are certainly teams who would take his production at his cap hit, despite the length of term.
cap hit numbers mean very little to a small market team like Buffalo.

he makes 8 million next year, and 7 million the following 3 years. just because there are two retardo years attached to the end doesn;t make him a "6.5 million dollar" guy.... he's an 8 million dollar injury prone center this year and next year, then he's a 7 million dollar OLDER injury prone center the following 3 years.

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They were not free agents, all three would make at least $1.5-$2M more then Briere in the open market
Good point. I guess loooking at it from the Sabres GM perspective it is still ridiculous. It's not in our itnerest what so ever to get tied up in that long term contract. Especially for Briere who is now officially injury prone and small. Roy has tepped in just fine.

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Hecht for Briere.

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lol Briere and a 1st for a 4th rounder...that must be that buffalo logic that keeps Vanek over Briere, Drury, Connolly and a **** load of 1st rounders....
Vanek >> Briere and Drury.

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Yes he really is. Really.
Just what do you think the going rate is for a PPG player, who also leads in playoff scoring since the lockout? His cap his is pretty much where it should be. I'd like it better if it was an even $6M, but its certainly reasonable as it stands now.

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cap hit numbers mean very little to a small market team like Buffalo.
Which is why I said in my post that Buffalo wouldn't, and shouldn't do it. Its not a fit for Buffalo, but there are certainly teams who would consider taking on Briere despite his length of term. PPG players don't grow on trees.

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he makes 8 million next year, and 7 million the following 3 years. just because there are two retardo years attached to the end doesn;t make him a "6.5 million dollar" guy.... he's an 8 million dollar injury prone center this year and next year, then he's a 7 million dollar OLDER injury prone center the following 3 years.
Yes, in actual salary, which matters to a team like Buffalo. I said as much in my earlier post, so I guess you've decided to just argue semantics?

Any team who can afford his salary (and there are certainly teams that can) and his cap hit, and who are in need of a PPG player, will still find value despite the length of term.

The "issues" with his contract is overblown hogwash. It wouldn't work for alot of teams (such as Buffalo), but the real reason he isn't tradeable (nor are the Flyers trying to trade him, despite bogus reports) is because of his NMC. Quite frankly, if the Flyers didn't need his money for other areas (defense), you wouldn't even see these silly Briere to whoever rumors because no Philly fans would want to see him moved.

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If Briere is moved it will be to make room for an elite D-man like Bouwmeester or Pronger. Philly has done quite well without Briere. They may feel that trading him now could help them down the road.

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If Briere is trade, it will be only for draft picks or young prospect, they need space if they want to make another trade.

They prove themself that they do well without Briere and looking to bring a defensman and maybe use what they get for Briere to trade it to either Toronto, Anaheim or Florida, a kind of 3 way deals.

What hurts the Flyers is the ridiculous contract Briere have sign, he played only 10 games this year, his value is dropping because of that.

I'm a Buffalo fan and if they want Briere back, they will trade a guy like Hecht, Mac , a young defense prospect or picks. But i will be very surprise if Regier bring him back, his salary is a big issue, we will have to re-sign couples of players and with salary cap going down next year i don't want to have too much 7 millions guys in my club.

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Flyers arent going to move Briere for nothing. They either keep him, or make a decent deal.

briere for Gaustad and Enroth

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that's not even remotely accurate.

Funny how both Philly and NY somewhat regret their overpayments now... meanwhile we are plenty happy with Vanek.

Briere is on his 2nd major long term groin injury... enjoy the next 6 years of that cap hit.

Drury has not lived up to the billing in NY either.

Buffalo made the right decision on Briere, and Drury chose NY over Buffalo.

DING! DING! DING!

We have a winner.

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Flyers arent going to move Briere for nothing. They either keep him, or make a decent deal.

briere for Gaustad and Enroth


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ok, briere is a top line center and is paid as such. my only qualm with it is the length and the NMC (which makes this thread moot). briere is NOT just a salary dump and is not being traded with multiple picks for a 4th round draft pick. he's still a talented player and a team in need of a top-line center or secondary scoring will pay for his services.

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Hecht, 3rd, Mancari, for Briere, Giroux.

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That is grossly overpaid. Pass.
This is getting old.

Overpayed for the Flyers?...yes.
Overpayed for any number of teams that want a PPG center?...no.

TOP LINE CENTERS GET TOP LINE CENTER MONEY! Where the hell has everyone been for the entire existence of the NHL?

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