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03-02-2009, 03:20 PM
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Frolov was the only halfway realistic one I thought of
You mean Parise isn't realistic?

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03-02-2009, 03:20 PM
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I would rather hold onto this years 1st rounder. The Rangers are missing a goal scorer. There are plenty of those in the first round this season.
well yea but that player won't be up for a long time.............they need another top 6..........people may disagree but Naslund, Gomez, Drury, Dubinsky, Zherdev are that. Adding Frolov would be the 6th.

Avery would be a real solid 3rd with Callahan and Korpikoski

All of a sudden the lines would be balanced and Frolov could add a big time spark to Gomez

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You are likely right and I do hope they hold on to him. Reason why I mention him is I think other teams will see the value as well

This is a real tough deadline cause they will want to not mortgage the future but u want to get in and if they get in with a new system under Torts and a strong Henrik they could do some damange.

I don't think they can go all the way but an upset here and there maybe
Is it worth mortgaging your future (even worse than they are already) for possibly an upset here and there?

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You are likely right and I do hope they hold on to him. Reason why I mention him is I think other teams will see the value as well

This is a real tough deadline cause they will want to not mortgage the future but u want to get in and if they get in with a new system under Torts and a strong Henrik they could do some damange.

I don't think they can go all the way but an upset here and there maybe
Kalinin won't be back next year and I believe Rosival will either be traded this year or in the off-season. There probably is a good chance we will see Sauer and Sanguinetti next season.

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03-02-2009, 03:26 PM
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well yea but that player won't be up for a long time.............they need another top 6..........people may disagree but Naslund, Gomez, Drury, Dubinsky, Zherdev are that. Adding Frolov would be the 6th.

Avery would be a real solid 3rd with Callahan and Korpikoski

All of a sudden the lines would be balanced and Frolov could add a big time spark to Gomez
This is what happens when the team is coming out of/still in a rebuild. it doesnt make sense to trade away this years 1st as then you end up having even bigger problems down the road when the young players now get raises like Dubi, Staal, Girardi, Callahan and others. This team is not a legit contender right now. In a few years they will have a better chance and I would rather have a good young player on his ELC than a 27 y/o goal scorer.

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This is what happens when the team is coming out of/still in a rebuild. it doesnt make sense to trade away this years 1st as then you end up having even bigger problems down the road when the young players now get raises like Dubi, Staal, Girardi, Callahan and others. This team is not a legit contender right now. In a few years they will have a better chance and I would rather have a good young player on his ELC than a 27 y/o goal scorer.
I see what your saying but I will not be surprised at all if it happens

Rangers have the mentality whether we like it or not of winning now and much as Gomez stinks so far he has played with Avery and Shanny one year(not the greatest wingers for him) and this year he has had Naslund for most but on the other side a guy like Cally who has done a fantastic job but is more of a 3rd line guy who can PK and score some extra goals

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You mean Parise isn't realistic?
depends on which Parise

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This kind of thinking...it's nothing a good loss won't fix.

Listen, compare this team to the better teams in the league: Sharks, Devils, Detroit, Washington, Boston. If you really think we are 1 or 2 players away from really challenging on the same level with these teams, then i think you need to lay off the kool-aid.

Not to mention the cap problems that come along with re-signing some late 20's scorer in his prime.

Also, this teams top-end scoring prospect depth was thin to begin with...before Cherepanov. With our current lack of cap flexibility in the coming years, we're in no position to trade picks or prospects. We're going to need young, cheap talent.

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LeCavalier or Kovalchuk. That's about all I could think of.

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Of obtainable players, my list begins and ends with Kovalchuk. Other than that, I say we hold it - especially given how happy I have been with the team's use of its 1st rounders since the lockout ended (not to mention how happy I was with the whole draft last year).

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I would give up a 1st for Hugh Jessimen...........

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Kovalchuk. End of story.

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I would give up a 1st for Hugh Jessimen...........
I still think he was drafted just for his name.

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I still think he was drafted just for his name.
I've heard part of it had to do with the fact that he was a rich Connecticut boy with good family connections.

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03-02-2009, 04:16 PM
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I've heard part of it had to do with the fact that he was a rich Connecticut boy with good family connections.


This was when Bertuzzi went and lit up the league. Next thing you know, everyone was looking for the next big powerforward/Cam Neely type...

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03-02-2009, 04:21 PM
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well yea but that player won't be up for a long time.............they need another top 6..........people may disagree but Naslund, Gomez, Drury, Dubinsky, Zherdev are that. Adding Frolov would be the 6th.

Avery would be a real solid 3rd with Callahan and Korpikoski

All of a sudden the lines would be balanced and Frolov could add a big time spark to Gomez
Personally, I think Korpikoski under Torts is on his way to becoming the next Lehtinen. He was managing to play well under that buffoon Renney. This kid has a chance to be a special, two way player. Not a 40 goal guy but certainly a guy who chips in 20-25 goals with 30-35 assists with tremendous defense and corner work and PK skill. I liked Frolov at one point but with Grachev and Anisimov exploding this year. I'll pass on him.

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03-02-2009, 04:35 PM
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Players I'd give up our #1 for? Besides the obvious? How about Getzlaf, Bogosian, Kessel, Vanek, Toews, Kane, Phaneuf, Nash, Filatov, Voracek, Neal, Booth, Kopitar, Forlov, Doughty, Parise, Spezza, Heatley, Carter, Richards, Boedker, Setoguchi, Berglund, Stamkos, Semin and Green.

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03-02-2009, 04:41 PM
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/player...?playerId=1486

Frolov is definitely worth the first. I typically am fully against giving up early round picks, but the likelihood that the guy we draft in the first round is anything close to Frolov, is slim to none.

26 year old winger, with size, that puts the puck in the net on a consistent basis.

You bet i'd give that first round up for him. Hand him a contract extension.

We have a solid core of young players in the system as well.

Frolov
Zherdev
Dubinsky
Grachev
Anisimov
Callahan
Korpikoski

That is a solid young core of forwards. Some good size in there, too.

I also happen to believe that Frolov would look great on Gomez's wing.

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03-02-2009, 04:46 PM
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Plenty? How many 1st round picks from the upcoming draft are going to score 30 goals in the NHL in 2010? Probably not plenty.
How the hell would anyone know?

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Frolov is definitely worth the first. I typically am fully against giving up early round picks, but the likelihood that the guy we draft in the first round is anything close to Frolov, is slim to none.

26 year old winger, with size, that puts the puck in the net on a consistent basis.

You bet i'd give that first round up for him. Hand him a contract extension.

We have a solid core of young players in the system as well.

Frolov
Zherdev
Dubinsky
Grachev
Anisimov
Callahan
Korpikoski

That is a solid young core of forwards. Some good size in there, too.

I also happen to believe that Frolov would look great on Gomez's wing.
Yeah, I agree with this. I have always liked Frolov as a player.

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03-02-2009, 04:58 PM
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Frolov and Horton are highest on my list.

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For nothing short of Ovechkin, Malkin, Parise, etc.

But that's just me.

The Rangers can draft a real special player in the 1st round in this upcoming draft
Or they can draft Montoya, Jessiman, Lundmark, Brendl, Malhotra, Jeff Brown, Cloutier, Sundstrom, Peter Ferraro, Stewart, Rice, Jay More.

Or the player can get injured in the next few years before he cracks the NHL: Cherneski, Blackburn, Cherepanov.

The only impact player we drafted in the first round from 1987 to 2004 was Kovalev.

We did well with Staal. DZ and Sang have potential, but so did guys like Brendl and Lundmark, so we'll have to wait.

The point is that you shouldn't expect a superstar.

I would gladly trade the first round pick for a second line wing who's 28 or younger.

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kovalchuk, bouwmeester

that's all i can think of
Would you trade Dubinsky for a mid first rounder? No? Because Dubinsky is worth more than a first? So why wouldn't you then acquire another Dubinsky (but a winger) for our pick.

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