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03-02-2009, 09:40 PM
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With Gaborik returning soon, will the Rangers make an offer?

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=411854

Marian Gaborik is set to return kinda soonish. Do you think Slats will try to pry him out of Minny? His value is at an all-time low due to him playing in only 6 games and basically being injured for the past 2 full seasons. That combined with the fact that he is a UFA may lead to the Wild just getting rid of him for whatever they can get at this point.

What do you think it would take to get him (and please don't respond unless you have REALISTIC trade offers, ie. don't offer Prucha/Dawes/Betts and a 3rd rounder or something of that nature, gotta give to get)

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Minnesota isn't trading him.

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http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=411854

Marian Gaborik is set to return kinda soonish. Do you think Slats will try to pry him out of Minny? His value is at an all-time low due to him playing in only 6 games and basically being injured for the past 2 full seasons. That combined with the fact that he is a UFA may lead to the Wild just getting rid of him for whatever they can get at this point.

What do you think it would take to get him (and please don't respond unless you have REALISTIC trade offers, ie. don't offer Prucha/Dawes/Betts and a 3rd rounder or something of that nature, gotta give to get)
Drury/Gomez + Prucha/Dawes + 2nd round pick.

I agree you have to give to get. Theres not much to get, so why give so much?

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Hes kinda the face of the Minnesota franchise.

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Drury/Gomez + Prucha/Dawes + 2nd round pick.

I agree you have to give to get. Theres not much to get, so why give so much?
I agree with you, there isn't that much to get at this exact minute but as long as he can stay healthy for the next 2 months i dont care haha. Also, if we give up one of Drury or Gomez, it basically can turn into a salary dump if he ends up being a flop or whatever.

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Hes kinda the face of the Minnesota franchise.
...but not always for the better. He's notorious for constantly being injured.

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Hes kinda the face of the Minnesota franchise.
Yes but he is a UFA who they've been tryin to re-sign for a while and he hasn't accepted anything so his time there may be running out. Plus, I'd give Mikko Koivu the new face of the Wild status.

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The Wild GM said that he won't trade any of his valuable players unless he receives a huge overpayment. I believe RangerBoy posted a link about this in another thread

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Why trade for him now when we can grossly overpay for his services this summer ?

Gaborik is a world class talent but it will take near a kings' ransom to trade for him whether he is injury prone or not. We should not be parting with what little assets we have at the moment especially when he may be available in the summer.

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Risebrough already said he'll let Gaborik walk for nothing other than trade him when is value is in an all-time low.

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Minnesota isn't trading him.
before they lose him for nothing, I can easily see a deal being made.

He doesn't want to be in Minnesota and will leave this summer.

He's already turned down a rather large offer from them earlier in the year.

Personally, I think sitting out the rest of the year will do his body more good than bad. I know he wants to show what he can do to get a few extra million over the summer, but GM's are not stupid. They know Gaborik and what he can do.

He's going to get his money and it won't be in Minnesota

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Risebrough already said he'll let Gaborik walk for nothing other than trade him when is value is in an all-time low.
then he should be fired on the spot.

Letting a player of this magnitude walk without getting something in return is irresponsible asset management on the GM's part.

Even if you gave him away at a discount, you can get more than the compensatory pick you get for losing a UFA.

It would be really stupid not to get anything for him while you can.

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then he should be fired on the spot.

Letting a player of this magnitude walk without getting something in return is irresponsible asset management on the GM's part.

Even if you gave him away at a discount, you can get more than the compensatory pick you get for losing a UFA.

It would be really stupid not to get anything for him while you can.
You dont get ANYTHING for losing a UFA. You only get the picks if an RFA on your team signs an offer sheet and you dont decide to match it. And for him not to be traded would be stupid. He's obviously not gonna sign in Minny this summer and if a team makes an offer for an injured player who you think might not come back anyway, you're gonna make that deal! There's no guarantee that Gaborik even comes back at all so that wouldn't help the Wild playing-wise, and letting him walk in the summer doesn't help them with the farm team and their future.

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Problem is, the earliest Gaborik is expected to return is more than two weeks away, so as center Eric Belanger said Saturday, "We better not wait for [that shot in the arm] or we'll be in trouble. We're still in the playoff picture without him. Until he's there, these are the guys we have to do it with."

Gaborik has what Risebrough called a "huge test" today in Vail, Colo., where he'll be examined by his surgeon, Marc Phillipon. If he passes, Gaborik will return to Minnesota, where Risebrough said he'll be cleared to begin practicing with the Wild once it returns from its six-game road trip March 9.

"The test is the end of therapy and rehab; it's the beginning of getting yourself back to playing," Risebrough said.

Before this season, the Wild attempted to sign Gaborik to a long-term extension. He scoffed at the Wild's offers, negotiations stalled and then he got hurt. There has been no communication between the Wild and his agent, Ron Salcer, since.

Risebrough said Gaborik's value to the Wild this season is worth more than he could receive in a trade.

"The reality of it is, I'm not going to be able to acquire a player like that at the trade deadline," Risebrough said. "I think it's important that he can add value to the team right now.


"I get this all the time. People say, 'What happens if you lose these guys [for nothing]?' We lost guys last year [Brian Rolston, Pavol Demitra and others] and that has had no bearing on our season. What's had a bearing on our season is that Gaborik was lost."

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So maybe if The Rangers send Gomez back the other way they get a player who can help them now and in the future and the Rangers get to look at Gaborik and decide whether they want to keep the cap space or resign him. Sounds good to me.

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before they lose him for nothing, I can easily see a deal being made.

He doesn't want to be in Minnesota and will leave this summer.

He's already turned down a rather large offer from them earlier in the year.

Personally, I think sitting out the rest of the year will do his body more good than bad. I know he wants to show what he can do to get a few extra million over the summer, but GM's are not stupid. They know Gaborik and what he can do.

He's going to get his money and it won't be in Minnesota
Minnesota GM already said they won't trade him.

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whatever GM throws a bunch of $ at this guy July 1 is either going to be declared a genius if he stays healthy, or be credited with 'ruining the league' when he's hurt and collecting $7 million/year

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Why trade for gaborik when he's a UFA at the end of the season?

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I just want to throw out my miracle (and 100% implausible) complete upheaval of the team.

Gomez, Potter, 2nd 09 and conditional 1st in 2010 (if he resigns) for Jay Bouw

Rozsival, Dawes, and Sanguinetti for Gaborik

Naslund for a late first (if someone wants him in the 20-30 range)/2010 first

Kalinin for a pick
Voros for a pick

Avery off waivers

Gaborik-Drury-Zherdev
Avery-Dubinsky-Callahan
Korpikoski-Anisimov-Prucha
Sjostrom-Betts-Orr

Redden-Bouwmeester
Staal-Girardi
Mara-Sauer

I'd be ecstatic if only the NHL were actually NHL 09 lol...

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I just want to throw out my miracle (and 100% implausible) complete upheaval of the team.

Gomez, Potter, 2nd 09 and conditional 1st in 2010 (if he resigns) for Jay Bouw

Rozsival, Dawes, and Sanguinetti for Gaborik

Naslund for a late first (if someone wants him in the 20-30 range)/2010 first

Kalinin for a pick
Voros for a pick

Avery off waivers

Gaborik-Drury-Zherdev
Avery-Dubinsky-Callahan
Korpikoski-Anisimov-Prucha
Sjostrom-Betts-Orr

Redden-Bouwmeester
Staal-Girardi
Mara-Sauer

I'd be ecstatic if only the NHL were actually NHL 09 lol...
lol it would be funny if GM's sat there with their own version of NHL 09 and make their decisions on deals based on if the deal is accepted by the computer on the game hahaha

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Why trade for gaborik when he's a UFA at the end of the season?
That's exactly why I would trade for him. I would try to give them one of our bad contracts (Rozy, Gomez, Etc.) and just let Gaborik walk most likely once he became a FA. But, they would never do a trade involving those players for Gaborik.

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That's exactly why I would trade for him. I would try to give them one of our bad contracts (Rozy, Gomez, Etc.) and just let Gaborik walk most likely once he became a FA. But, they would never do a trade involving those players for Gaborik.
I wouldn't be 100% positive. A guy like Gomez is a Minny type guy and perhaps some scouts and coaches out there still see some value in Gomer and see that he still has some game in this new system. If I could move Gomez's contract and acquire Gaborik for a test drive, it wouldn't be the end of the world if we didn't even end up keeping Gabby and the potential to see a dynamic offensive player in NY is great.

I think that, as bad as our contracts are, they're more movable than people will allow you to believe. A lot of people just like to see the Rangers struggle and refuse to let us forget when we do.

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I think he will be traded, but not to the Rangers. It would be nice if the huge over payment Minny is looking for is Gomez/Redden & Rosival.

That being said, he is too small, & too injury prone. Don't want him, Don't need him & the headaches.

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That's exactly why I would trade for him. I would try to give them one of our bad contracts (Rozy, Gomez, Etc.) and just let Gaborik walk most likely once he became a FA. But, they would never do a trade involving those players for Gaborik.
No no i said why trade FOR gaborik,as in from the rangers point of view.

Obviously for the wild its a diffrent story.

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I certainly hope not. We don't need another albatross on this team, because he certainly won't be worth what he'll be asking for if we want to re-sign him.

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