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Patrice Bergeron & picks to Anaheim for Chris Pronger
Its been said to death, but Boston will have to unload a big salary to re-sign Kessel and Kreijic, resign a goalie and fit rask into the payroll. The following year Lucic will be a RFA. As it is, Boston won't be able to keep everyone and its clear some people don't realize that.
Trading Bergeron would be a prudent move for them just because out of all their forwards he has the most risk (concussions). He may god's gift of a talent, but he's 1 hit away from retiring.
Having said all this I highly doubt this move happens. I don't think Anaheim trades for equal salary in a Pronger move. More likely they are asking for someone like Lucic as ownership wants to trim payroll.
Stuart, Colburne, Lucic, and 1st make a lot of sense from Duck's perspective and if they can't get that, they'll likely not make a trade.
You call 10 goals prorated over a 82 game schedule a decent offensive game? Not saying that Bergeron isn't offensively talented, but quite clearly, he isn't producing offensively.
So according to you any player that doesn't put up big points is a bad player?
He slumped badly early in the year. Losing Marco Sturm, and having P.J. Axelsson and Chuck Kobasew on his line has hurt his production. But, he has 6 points in his last 8 games, you're a little off base here. Bad season? Yes. Currently? Playing pretty well.
As I have stated, I am not arguing that Bergeron can't play better offensively or that he won't play better offensively, only that he hasn't played good offensively.
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Originally Posted by DaStinger
So according to you any player that doesn't put up big points is a bad player?
When did I say that? Quite clearly, I have maintained from the beginning that he hasn't played well offensively. Players that don't put up lots of points are not good offensively (presently), pretty simple.
Right now, it doesn't matter what Bergeron was doing before. It matters what he's doing now and what he's going to do going forward. Predictably, he struggled in the first half of the season to find his game but he's played pretty well as of late.
Right now, it doesn't matter what Bergeron was doing before. It matters what he's doing now and what he's going to do going forward. Predictably, he struggled in the first half of the season to find his game but he's played pretty well as of late.
8 games don't change a season, but I agree that this is a promising trend for Bergeron.
8 games don't change a season, but I agree that this is a promising trend for Bergeron.
Especially considering that the team as a whole is struggling offensively. Bergeron has been one of their best forwards lately and I have no reservations about him at all. He took a beating tonight and it didn't faze him.
You have made an ass of yourself in this thread. Why not try addressing arguments made instead of just mindlessly going on about how I have to watch Bruins games to draw conclusions on actual production made by Bruins players.
Its been said to death, but Boston will have to unload a big salary to re-sign Kessel and Kreijic, resign a goalie and fit rask into the payroll. The following year Lucic will be a RFA. As it is, Boston won't be able to keep everyone and its clear some people don't realize that.
Trading Bergeron would be a prudent move for them just because out of all their forwards he has the most risk (concussions). He may god's gift of a talent, but he's 1 hit away from retiring.
Having said all this I highly doubt this move happens. I don't think Anaheim trades for equal salary in a Pronger move. More likely they are asking for someone like Lucic as ownership wants to trim payroll.
Stuart, Colburne, Lucic, and 1st make a lot of sense from Duck's perspective and if they can't get that, they'll likely not make a trade.
glad it does for the ducks, becuase its crap for boston to do it.
and its also pretty clear that boston wont be dishing any of there young core for money reasons.
period.
and is bergeron one hit away from retiring on the Jones hit?
or the one hit after that in the Caroline game were he suffered a concussion?
or is it now one hit after the one hit after the one hit?
I don't really by the whole 'he is playing with scrubs so it is fine that he is putting up pathetic point totals' argument. Ask yourself, why is he playing with offensive scrubs? Its not like the Bruins are punishing him on purpose. If he was able to play well offensively with some of Boston's good offensive players, clearly he would be put there. There is a reason why he is playing with Axelsson, and that is because he hasn't played well offensively.
Furthermore, the fact that Bergeron plays on average, the second most powerplay time of Boston's forwards (excluding Sturm due to the small sample size,) at 3:06 minutes, and yet has put up an appallingly low 10 power play points. Thats 150 minutes, so about 1 point about every 15 minutes.
clearly he wouldnt, as has been shown by the fact that, well, he hasnt
he's been one of the best defensive forwards for boston this year, and with there depth up front, thats certainoy allowed him be used in that role, not the other way around.
Hold on rewind here: "Boston Radio" is reporting this? and what station would be this"Boston radio" be because i don't see any station mentioned anywhere and even though the B's are doing well no Boston radio station talks B's hockey.
I posted it earlier and I'll post it again, I think this is the fairest deal for both teams:
ANA: Pronger + Pahlsson
for
BOS: Bergeron, Stuart, Colborne, Lashoff, 1st 09 or 10
If Boston wants to win the cup THIS YEAR, then they do this if it's offered imo. Boston gets an elite defensemen in Pronger and an elite shutdown forward in Pahlsson for their run at the cup. This trade would make Boston clear favorites in the east this year. Plus, they are stacked with young talent. Pronger isn't a rental, you don't offer a bag of pucks and think that you'll get him.
This is a trade Boston makes if it's offered and they think they can win it all this year.
I don't really by the whole 'he is playing with scrubs so it is fine that he is putting up pathetic point totals' argument. Ask yourself, why is he playing with offensive scrubs? Its not like the Bruins are punishing him on purpose. If he was able to play well offensively with some of Boston's good offensive players, clearly he would be put there. There is a reason why he is playing with Axelsson, and that is because he hasn't played well offensively.
Furthermore, the fact that Bergeron plays on average, the second most powerplay time of Boston's forwards (excluding Sturm due to the small sample size,) at 3:06 minutes, and yet has put up an appallingly low 10 power play points. Thats 150 minutes, so about 1 point about every 15 minutes.
He plays with Axelsson on the checking line, because of Boston's three great Centers, Bergeron is by far the best defensively, and is the team's best defensive forward overall.
