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02-12-2009, 04:35 PM
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KINGS top 5 best fighters of all time??

Not in any order:

Matt Johnson
Jay Wells
Ryan Flinn
Ken Baumgartner
Marty McSorley

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02-12-2009, 04:37 PM
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I dont think Flinn was that good. He had hands of concrete, but as a fighter, he wasn't too hot imo.

No Brennan, no Grimson, no Williams, no Kozak?

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I dont think Flinn was that good. He had hands of concrete, but as a fighter, he wasn't too hot imo.

No Brennan, no Grimson, no Williams, no Kozak?
i never saw Grimson ever win a fight... One of my favorite moments as a Kings fan was watching my boy, Jay Wells, pummel Tiger when he was with Vancouver...

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I dont think Flinn was that good. He had hands of concrete, but as a fighter, he wasn't too hot imo.

No Brennan, no Grimson, no Williams, no Kozak?


Did anyone see Brennan on Sober House last week? What a tool that guy is.

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i never saw Grimson ever win a fight...

Reid Simpson?

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Did anyone see Brennan on Sober House last week? What a tool that guy is.
I actually did. Definately a tool.

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Not in any order:

Matt Johnson
Jay Wells
Ryan Flinn
Ken Baumgartner
Marty McSorley
Matt Johnson is way overrated imo.

I think most people remember his first fight against Grimson where Johnson handled himself admirably but other than that, I don't recall too many fights in which he won.

My list in no particular order:

Grimson
McSorley
Tocchett
Lappy
Simmie in a few years

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02-12-2009, 05:41 PM
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Gotta have Grimson...I think Ivanans is close to cracking this list...not too many people are willing to throw down with him anymore...except for Parros, and that usually ends with a nice YouTube vid for Ivanans.

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Do you want effectiveness as a King or just the best to wear the sweater?

As a King:

McSorley
Baumgartner
Wells
Grimson

Stu only had one season but he killed Simpson and dropped JL Grand-Pierre in his first regular season fight with a left hand because his right was still mangled from a pre-season fight with Parker.

Wells was a beast and didn't screw around with the gloves off. Length of service helps here as well as his rough late-career losses were with NY.

McSorley goes without saying and Baumgartner almost never lost, at least on the footage I had. Bonus points for opening up with Probert and bloodying Neely and Fleury.

HM to Matt Johnson as he rarely lost as a King but I'll take Grimson's campaign in which the Kings actually won a playoff series.

Career:

McSorley
Grimson

After that I'm not terribly sure since I'm not as familiar with the older guys. Beck played here, Maloney comes to mind as well as Jay Miller. Baumgartner can probably be there as well as I feel he was a Top-10 guy during an era in the late 80's early 90's which I think was more of a goon era than the 70s.

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Randy Holt?

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Simmie in a few years
Simmonds will have to put on a LOT of weight to be a good fighter. He's lanky right now and definitely strong for his size on the puck, but against most guys his height I think he would get handled pretty often.

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Tiger William
Stu Grimson
Jay Wells
Marty McSorley
Dave Taylor

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Don't forget the fury that was Brad Chartrand.

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Lappy

I always loved Lappy, because of his heart, but as a fighter he isnt that good.

Most of his fights never result in the other party being injured and are mostly hugging matches.

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Damn whippersnappers! No love for "The Hammer"?

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...y.php?pid=4826

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Damn whippersnappers! No love for "The Hammer"?

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...y.php?pid=4826
I just don't think Dave was that great of a fighter and just rode to prominence as the ring leader of those Philly goon squads...there were much better fighters on those teams than Schultz.

I'd have to put Randy Holt on the list if I put Schultz sheerly due to his setting the single game PIM record.

Of course, I just noticed I only put 4 guys instead of 5 so maybe I shouldn't weigh in on this topic until I can read properly.

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Every time I think of Matt Johnson I can't help but think of the sucker punch he gave Jeff Beukeboom that ended his career and that horrible Matt Johnson/Steve McKenna "twin towers" pairing the Kings tried with Laperriere at center.

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Simmonds will have to put on a LOT of weight to be a good fighter. He's lanky right now and definitely strong for his size on the puck, but against most guys his height I think he would get handled pretty often.
Simmie is actually a good fighter now but because he is so frail he gets out-muscled now and then.

He's the type that wants to stand toe-to-toe and throw and not hold like most fighters do these days.

I say Simmie will be somewhere around 210 lbs when his body has fully matured.

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Don't forget the fury that was Brad Chartrand.
Ice Dancing should not be confused with hockey fighting!

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List not in order:

Tiger Williams
Jay Wells
Stu the Grim Reaper Grimson
Ken Baumgartner
Marty McSorley

Honorable mentions to:
Matt Johnson
JP Kelly
Jay Miller
Dave The Hammer Schultz

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List not in order:

Tiger Williams
Jay Wells
Stu the Grim Reaper Grimson
Ken Baumgartner
Marty McSorley

Honorable mentions to:
Matt Johnson
JP Kelly
Jay Miller
Dave The Hammer Schultz
JP Kelly was known for his bodychecks.

I really don't remember Kelly fighting. Maybe once perhaps...

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While he never showed any of it (or anything at all for that matter) when he was on the Kings, Cloutier's smackdown of Salo is still one of my favorite fight clips.

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Brennan used to be one of my favorities...After watching this I changed my mind.

http://www.vh1.com/video/play.jhtml?...398&vid=339116

Where is this exactly I want to know? LA, OC, NY? It said Kip rented this house. He lives in Manhattan Beach in the off season....

On another note, Big King hit it right on the head...

I think the best since I've been a fan for about 15 years have been hands down:

Marty McSorley (wins over Odgers (KO), Sandy McCarthy, Churla, Grimson, Domi, Odjick, Vial...I can go on and on...)

Stu Grimson - KO over Reid Simpson, TKO over Pierre, beat Probert, even though he got beat by Parker, he edged him in the same game in another fight and drew him in the last fight of the year.

Matt Johnson - He was better and reached his prime as a member of the Wild but he had nice moments as a King...didn't live up to the hype until he went to Minnesota...But he had some wins over Odjick, Cummins, Nazarov, and Jim McKenzie.

I think Ken Baumgartner gets honorable mention but he was before my time. As was Jay Wells...but both good fighters.

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Brennan used to be one of my favorities...After watching this I changed my mind.

http://www.vh1.com/video/play.jhtml?...398&vid=339116

Where is this exactly I want to know? LA, OC, NY? It said Kip rented this house. He lives in Manhattan Beach in the off season....

Notice Lupol is there too?

Like Reap and I said, Brennan is a tool.

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Brennan used to be one of my favorities...After watching this I changed my mind.

http://www.vh1.com/video/play.jhtml?...398&vid=339116

Where is this exactly I want to know? LA, OC, NY? It said Kip rented this house. He lives in Manhattan Beach in the off season....

On another note, Big King hit it right on the head...
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Notice Lupol is there too?

Like Reap and I said, Brennan is a tool.
How much of a dork or just plain stupid do you have to be to leave a girl like that alone at a party. He gets the snap-on award of the year!

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