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03-04-2009, 09:21 PM
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While Antropov is skilled and will stand in front of the net he doesnt add any grit, he wont throw his body around or drop the gloves for us.

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03-04-2009, 09:23 PM
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could sather have gotten morris without giving up dawes?
No, because Maloney wanted him hes RFA. Prucha and Kalinin could walk just like Morris could for the Rangers. I think Maloney needed a sure bet with Dawes and hope Prucha might want to resign with them. Well see.

But again, the inability to manage the cap lead Sather to be pretty much FORCED to let one of the upcoming RFA's go, because he didnt have the room. Being that Dawes probably would have commanded the amount that Dubinsky and Callahan would have, he had to let him go. My beef with that is, this is a perfect example of how Sather undervalued his own asset.

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03-04-2009, 09:26 PM
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They are better tonight then they were this morning.

Of course the proof is in the results...

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Naslund Gomez Zherdev/Antropov
Dubinsky Drury Zherdev/Antropov
Avery Korpedo Callahan
Sjo Betts Orr

Redden Rozsival
Staal Girardi
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What are you talking about?

Every team around us got better today. Sather did a fine job.

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Sather continues to screw us big time. This team sucks and I hope we miss the playoffs.

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03-04-2009, 09:28 PM
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really??? reitz is an average NHLer nothing more. prucha had NO value. dawes is overrated by our fanbase.

Avery, Morris, Antropov > Prucha, Dawes, Kalinin
Still, you now only have 6 NHL defenseman going into playoffs, and the Rangers havent given Potter, Sangs, Sauer... or anyone in HFD that much experience to come up and play in the STANLEY CUP playoffs.

The Rangers dont have the luxury to give these kids the type of time they need to be prepared for that role if need be. IF Sather is going for it, which once again it looks like - you have to be prepared for all situations. Having minimum 7 NHL ready defenseman going into playoffs might be the biggest. And he doesnt because he mismanaged the cap and had no choice but to waive Reitz, even if he had a broken foot - then he should have claimed another, or kept Kalinin. But he couldnt, once again - because he had no room.

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03-04-2009, 09:28 PM
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How did he screw the team? He traded two nice guy No shows for an upgrade on the blueline and 2nd rounder for a guy who INSTANTLY is the Rangers high scorer.....

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Im actually quite surprised how many of you like these deals

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03-04-2009, 09:34 PM
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Still, you now only have 6 NHL defenseman going into playoffs, and the Rangers havent given Potter, Sangs, Sauer... or anyone in HFD that much experience to come up and play in the STANLEY CUP playoffs.

The Rangers dont have the luxury to give these kids the type of time they need to be prepared for that role if need be. IF Sather is going for it, which once again it looks like - you have to be prepared for all situations. Having minimum 7 NHL ready defenseman going into playoffs might be the biggest. And he doesnt because he mismanaged the cap and had no choice but to waive Reitz, even if he had a broken foot - then he should have claimed another, or kept Kalinin. But he couldnt, once again - because he had no room.
reitz is nothing special. not even sure hes better than potter or sanguinetti. plus torts doesnt play is less effective players that much so if we did need to call up a player from the AHL its not a downgrade over reitz.

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03-04-2009, 09:38 PM
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No, because Maloney wanted him hes RFA. Prucha and Kalinin could walk just like Morris could for the Rangers. I think Maloney needed a sure bet with Dawes and hope Prucha might want to resign with them. Well see.

But again, the inability to manage the cap lead Sather to be pretty much FORCED to let one of the upcoming RFA's go, because he didnt have the room. Being that Dawes probably would have commanded the amount that Dubinsky and Callahan would have, he had to let him go. My beef with that is, this is a perfect example of how Sather undervalued his own asset.
yeah i agree with everything you said.

i'm guessing if morris walks, rangers will slot potter in his spot

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03-04-2009, 09:54 PM
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yeah i agree with everything you said.

i'm guessing if morris walks, rangers will slot potter in his spot
Sauer.

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Sauer.
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mara might walk too

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03-04-2009, 10:08 PM
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I'm wondering now, if one of our forwards gets hurt who do we stick into the lineup? The organization clearly isn't very high on Voros right now... I guess Mark Bell is the extra plug?

It's weird not having Dawes/Prucha/Fritsche/Rissmiller/Voros constantly sitting in the press box.
Haha I agree, we went from having too many extra 3rd/4th lines to no extras now. I guess in a way thats good since it'd be easier to develop chemistry. I see guys like Anisimov,Potter,Parenteau, and maybe Sangs called up for the playoffs like the Rangers usually do.

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03-04-2009, 10:12 PM
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reitz is nothing special. not even sure hes better than potter or sanguinetti. plus torts doesnt play is less effective players that much so if we did need to call up a player from the AHL its not a downgrade over reitz.
Its has nothing to do with Reitz!

Its really a must that if you are preparing for a long Stanley Cup Playoff run... and theres every indication that Sather is with the deals he made today... then you should have a minimum of 7 NHL ready defensmen on the squad. Even if Torts rides his top 4. He really should have found a way to get another defensmaen in here on top of Morris, or kept Kalinin - but he had no room. This is a half-ass job, and its all because he mismanaged the cap.

IMO, none of the HFD prospects are prepared to play a playoff game if need be, and there wont be nearly enough time or leeway to get them any experience over the course of the last 18 games. Sure, they can be thrown in the fire but thats really not the proper way to do things...

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03-04-2009, 10:19 PM
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Its has nothing to do with Reitz!

Its really a must that if you are preparing for a long Stanley Cup Playoff run... and theres every indication that Sather is with the deals he made today... then you should have a minimum of 7 NHL ready defensmen on the squad. Even if Torts rides his top 4. He really should have found a way to get another defensmaen in here on top of Morris, or kept Kalinin - but he had no room. This is a half-ass job, and its all because he mismanaged the cap.

IMO, none of the HFD prospects are prepared to play a playoff game if need be, and there wont be nearly enough time or leeway to get them any experience over the course of the last 18 games. Sure, they can be thrown in the fire but thats really not the proper way to do things...
Reitz was an AHL'er waived by minnesota 2 months ago. Not sure how you can say hes any better than 2-3 of our AHL defenseman.

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Zherdev Gomez Antropov
Dubinsky Drury Nazzy
Avery Korpi Cally
Sjo Betts Orr

Staal Rozsival
Morris Girardi
Mara Redden[/QUOTE]

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Those of you who continue to say Antropov won't throw his body around...I ask you this;

What Antropov have you been watching? For a russian, he certainly does have sand-paper and plays with an edge.

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03-04-2009, 10:40 PM
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Naslund-Gomez-Antropov
Dubi-Drury-Z
Avery-Korp-Cally
S-B-O

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Naslund-Gomez-Antropov
Avery-Drury-Z
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Either This:

Naslund Gomez Zherdev
Dubinsky Drury Antropov
Avery Korpikoski Callahan
Sjostrom Betts Orr
This is exactly what I drew up after the trades went through.

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03-04-2009, 10:48 PM
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The consensus seems to be...
Naslund-Gomez-Zherdev
Dubinsky-Drury-Antropov
Avery-Korpikoski-Callahan
Sjostrom-Betts-Orr

But anybody else worried about the third line? There is no one there that can play center. What's Korps FO%? 40%? Putting Dubinsky at 3rd Line Center, switching Korps to RW and moving Cally up to line 2 makes sense, but with the way Torts hands out playing time, we need to have our best 6 players as our top six forwards.

If these lines click, we instantly become a team that nobody wants to face.

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Naslund - Gomez - Zherdev
Avery - Drury - Antropov
Korpikoski - Dubinsky - Callahan
Sjostrom - Betts - Orr

Staal- Rozsival
Redden - Morris
Mara - Girardi

any way you draw 'em up, it's a lot better than it was a week ago

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My money is on Antropov winding up with Gomez and Naslund. Creates a lot of space for Naslund to get open and can drive to the net and try and generate some chances from Gomez's softie chest shots.

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Naslund - Gomez - Zherdev
Avery - Drury - Antropov
Korpikoski - Dubinsky - Callahan
Sjostrom - Betts - Orr

Staal- Rozsival
Redden - Morris
Mara - Girardi

any way you draw 'em up, it's a lot better than it was a week ago
I'd mix up those top two lines. You have all three guys who go to the net on the same line.

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03-04-2009, 10:58 PM
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I'm not even going to get into line combo's because I'm too excited for tomorrow's game against the Isles, the worst team in the league. Our new and improved squad against an Isles team whose arena will be filled by rangers fans.

Avery, Antro, and Morris all in the lineup.... Its going to be awesome.

I'm surprised there hasnt been a GDT set up already lol.

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