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TFP: Blues #1 Prospect

View Poll Results: Who is the Blues #1 Prospect
Patrik Berglund 21 28.77%
TJ Oshie 21 28.77%
Lars Eller 3 4.11%
Aaron Palushaj 0 0%
Brett Sonne 0 0%
Phil McRae 0 0%
Simon Hjalmarsson 0 0%
Steve Wagner 0 0%
Cade Fairchild 0 0%
Jonas Junland 0 0%
Ian Cole 0 0%
Alex Pietrangelo 28 38.36%
Jake Allen 0 0%
Ben Bishop 0 0%
Other 0 0%
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03-05-2009, 05:19 AM
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TFP: Blues #1 Prospect

It's time for the "Spring 2009" series of The Fan Poll Top 20 list.

News and Notes:


1) This has been a sticking point in the past so I'll say this again: we are using the HF guidlines to label players a prospect. That means 65 NHL games for skaters or 45 NHL games for goalies.

Polak, Perron and Crombeen are now Graduated.
Berglund and Oshie are not.


2) These polls are strictly to discuss our prospects, nothing more. Please keep the polls clean.

3) This is the Spring version so we're just going to 20 this time around.

4) Please remember to vote on who to add also. This has been a particularly irritating issue the longer the Polls go on. Even if the prospects don't make the top 20/25 list, any votes they accumulate may have bearing when it comes to the next series.

I would like to kick this one off with a Dancing Monkey as you know you're in good shape when your #4 overall pick isn't even a lock for the #1 spot in your prospect pool.


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03-05-2009, 05:29 AM
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Yea its really good when Pietranglo isn't the guarentee #1 prospect. Got a very bright future ....I'm going to have to go with Berglund though for now because hes just further ahead in his developement.

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03-05-2009, 08:10 AM
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Regardless of the HF guidelines, I consider both Berglund and Oshie to be NHL players, not prospects.

That being the case, I went with Pietrangelo.

Add Chris Holt.

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03-05-2009, 08:24 AM
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If you aren't going to follow the stated guidelines, you really shouldn't participate imo, as it has the potential to unfairly skew the results.

Add Tyson Strachan.

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03-05-2009, 08:38 AM
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If you aren't going to follow the stated guidelines, you really shouldn't participate imo, as it has the potential to unfairly skew the results.

Add Tyson Strachan.
You're entitled to your opinion.

I'm not "failing to follow the stated guidelines;" I'm expressing my opinion that Berglund and Oshie aren't prospects in my eyes, and thus Pietrangelo is the top prospect in the organization.

Barring injury (or a hissy fit by the Green Goblin), Berglund will "graduate" by St. Patri(c)k's Day; Oshie will never play a game in Peoria, and thus is already considered "graduated" as far as I'm concerned.

I don't see how pointing out the facts on Berglund, and the obvious on Oshie, has any potential to "unfairly skew the results."

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I also question Berglund and Oshie's status as "prospects". Still, I would've voted for Petro regardless as I think his top end potential is the highest.

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The way I see it, as long as a player doesn't have to pass through waivers to get sent down (regardless of the likely hood of such an event occuring) they are still a prospect. I guess we all have our different ways of looking at it.

That said I don't suppose anyone would truly have an argument against Petro getting #1 billing if people vote for him because they believe that Berglund or Oshie are already graduated.

I voted Berglund. I think the length of the NHL season is wearing him down but he's stayed decently steady and productive regardless and I think he still has the better offensive upside than all of the names listed.

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I'm with you that Berland and Oshie are now legit NHLers. Pie is #1 but who is #2?. It could be anyone of Eller, Cole, McRae, Allen, Bishop, with Palushaj and Sonne as dark horses.

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Regardless of Berglund and Oshie's status I would still rank Pietrangelo #1 for now. He has the highest ceiling out of any of them and has not done anything for me to knock him out of that position.

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03-05-2009, 12:37 PM
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i see oshie as #1 at this time in the year

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i see oshie as #1 at this time in the year
We aren't talking about this time of the year. We are talking about their potential in the future. I am of the mind that Berglund would most likely not have slowed his pace down if he hadn't played in so many games.

That said, I voted for Petro.

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I think of prospects as those who havent played a full season in the NHL and are under 23.
Since Berglund and Oshie are playing their first "full" season in the NHL I cannot place my vote for either of them.
Also when I think of prospects, I envision the top young player in the system, a combo of being able to be the most productive when he enters the league, and the most coveted player by other teams as well.

Saying that..I voted for Pietrangelo.
He would still be looking good in a bluenote and next year will be the breakout year.

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03-05-2009, 01:55 PM
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Oshie, I really like what I see. That being said, I don't really consider Berglund or Oshie prospects, and I think Pietrangelo has the highest ceiling of all of them.

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Regardless of Berglund and Oshie's status I would still rank Pietrangelo #1 for now. He has the highest ceiling out of any of them and has not done anything for me to knock him out of that position.
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I went with Petro. Like BlueBeard said, he has a very intriguing ceiling. Hopefully he works with Ayotte this off season and add some muscle to his frame.

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Oshie. This kid is a Dallas Drake with better wheels and hands. He is gonna be a star.

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No need to re-hash everything that's been said about Pietrangelo.
I, too, would add Nigro.

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Petro, Petro, Petro!

i just think its great knowing that we have all these blues fans argueing about who our top prospect is, when in reality they're all going to be in the blues sweater soon

Says alot about the future of our Blues right there

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Tyson Strachan fassure.

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My top 10

Petro
Berglund
Oshie
Eller
Allen
Cole
Palushaj
McRae
Sonne
Junland

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My top 10

Petro
Berglund
Oshie
Eller
Allen
Cole
Palushaj
McRae
Sonne
Junland
Very close to mine (and very close to HF's). I miiiiight swap Oshie up for Berglund, but I'll give Berglund the edge just because of his crazy shot and size. I also might slide Allen down below Palushaj or even McRae, at least until we see how Allen looks in a couple of years. Then again, I'm probably higher on both Cole and Palushaj than most are.

I like the praise Murray gave to Junland before the season began, but that tenth slot could easily be Bishop, Fairchild, or Kristoffer Berglund.

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Petro, Petro, Petro!

i just think its great knowing that we have all these blues fans argueing about who our top prospect is, when in reality they're all going to be in the blues sweater soon

Says alot about the future of our Blues right there
I know, such a horrible problem to have! It's like comparing Bouwmeester, Sundin, and Morrow.

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It's kind of ridiculous to have this poll just a few games before Berglund graduates officially (at 65 games). Technically, Berglund is currently the #1. Oshie CAN NOT make it past 57 games this season, so, for all intents and purposes, Berglund is just about graduated, so the consideration should only be between Oshie, who has proved he can play in The NHL on a high level, and Pietrangelo's highly touted upside.

I'd have to give the edge to Oshie, as proving one can play at a high level in The NHL is worth more than "seeming" to have an extremely high upside.

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My Top 10 (assuming Berglund and Polįk have graduated) is as follows:

1) Oshie
2) Pietrangelo
3) Eller
4) Cole
5) Allen
6) McRae
7) Sonne
8) Palushaj
9) Junland
10)K. Berglund

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My Top 10 (assuming Berglund and Polįk have graduated) is as follows:

1) Oshie
2) Pietrangelo
3) Eller
4) Cole
5) Allen
6) McRae
7) Sonne
8) Palushaj
9) Junland
10)K. Berglund
Hey Robb, I'm curious why you put Berglund as graduated, but not Oshie? Is it because he's only played 38 games?

Also, I agree with your list although I'd put Palashaj ahead of Cole, Allen, McRae and Sonne.

EDIT: I just read your other post above mine in regards to Oshie/Berglund.

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