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03-04-2009, 10:22 PM
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Deflections that result in goals

So is it just me or do we not have any skill at deflecting pucks into the enemy net. I'm talking pucks being tipped in mid air into the net, or ground pucks going top-corner. I'm quite sure this year we haven't scored a single goal of this type, it seems that Carbonneau or whoever is running the coaching on this team (yeah I'm not even sure anymore) just doesn't integrate this useful tactic into the gameplan. We could have won tonight's game by using this tactic - Schneider kept shooting wide so someone tips it on goal but Higgins kept missing. It seems like we are the only team in the league not adapting this strategy, why are we always on the perimiter and not in shooting lanes?

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03-04-2009, 10:24 PM
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It's a valid point. They scored 2 goals off deflections. I honestly don't remember the last time Montreal scored off a deflection (I didn't see the game Saturday, so if they did, sorry!).

Not just deflections, but scrambles.

I think there is too much emphasis on the perfect play, still...

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To get deflected goals, you need bodies in front of the net. We are mostly a perimeter team..

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I'd overpay a guy like Franzen just for that this off-season.

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I'd overpay a guy like Franzen just for that this off-season.


Bunch of ... don't want to go in the tough area, so they ain't gonna get those deflection goals standing in the perimeter.

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Yeah, we'd kinda need someone in front of the net. Pacioretty is the only one who does.

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03-05-2009, 10:47 AM
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Kostopoulos is pretty good at them...

He did one once that was like 2-3 feet wide and deflected it perfectly top corner.. I was troubled at such a nice move by Kosto! Even Crosby wouldn't have had that shot!

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I remember Begin scoring a beautiful goal, top corner deflection on a pass from Tom Kostopoulos earlier this year. But yeah, that doesn't happen very often.

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I think that was mostly fluke, but I know what you mean.

We need more skilled guys willing to stand in front of the net. MPac does it sometimes and Lats was doing it before he was injured but other than that, no one wants to do it.

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So is it just me or do we not have any skill at deflecting pucks into the enemy net. I'm talking pucks being tipped in mid air into the net, or ground pucks going top-corner. I'm quite sure this year we haven't scored a single goal of this type, it seems that Carbonneau or whoever is running the coaching on this team (yeah I'm not even sure anymore) just doesn't integrate this useful tactic into the gameplan. We could have won tonight's game by using this tactic - Schneider kept shooting wide so someone tips it on goal but Higgins kept missing. It seems like we are the only team in the league not adapting this strategy, why are we always on the perimiter and not in shooting lanes?
just to touch on the bolded part...



and the caption under it reads "Alex Tanguay takes part in a deflection drill at the Montreal Canadiens practice facility in Brossard..."

So its not like they don't practice it...its just that we cant seem to get any deflections on net during a game

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03-05-2009, 11:43 AM
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^^

Are you sure it's puck deflection or are they practicing defense? blocking shots with sticks?

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Are you sure it's puck deflection or are they practicing defense? blocking shots with sticks?
my guess would be puck deflection...i highly doubt they would practice blocking shots with sticks...thats more anticipation and instinct than anything...but who knows...u may be right

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I have been saying that for a LONG time now, I even mentioned it yesterday when i was watching the game with some friends. You watch Bruins games or replays and most of their goals are deflections right infront of the net..for us it seems that if, IF, we deflect the puck its always well wide of the net..its frustrating really.

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On the flip side, it's insane how many goals others teams score on us because of a deflection. Those deflections are also often on skate or something...

So we can't deflect pucks, and we are not even lucky in any aspect of the game...

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03-05-2009, 02:21 PM
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On the flip side, it's insane how many goals others teams score on us because of a deflection. Those deflections are also often on skate or something...

So we can't deflect pucks, and we are not even lucky in any aspect of the game...
That's it, we always try to block a shot by putting a stick in front of it but it always hurts us more than it helps

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Someone brought this up on the Bruins board and made a good point...shotblocking numbers are probably insanely high this season. Because of this maybe pucks aren't getting through to the areas where people are to deflect them? I've definitely noticed a decline in it this year for us as well.

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Habs must be the only team where driving the net, getting in front of the goalie is not part of their overall strategy. Even a supposely skilled/speedy group like the Sabres are doing this. Everybody does it while even the grinders are not doing it for the Habs.

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03-05-2009, 04:58 PM
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Yeah, we'd kinda need someone in front of the net. Pacioretty is the only one who does.
Koivu too, but he's not supposed to. Hopefully Tender will do that job in the future.

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Yeah, we'd kinda need someone in front of the net. Pacioretty is the only one who does.
Kostitsyn is always standing in front of the net (when playing with Kovalev).

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We've been pretty good at deflecting pucks into our own net this season. Maybe we should put one guy in front of the net to block our own shots.

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We've been pretty good at deflecting pucks into our own net this season. Maybe we should put one guy in front of the net to block our own shots.
Komisarek may have found a use this season.

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Yeah, we'd kinda need someone in front of the net. Pacioretty is the only one who does.
thats not entirely true, more times than not, somebody will be in front of the net, most people fail to realize it cause whoever is in the crease area, doesn't know how to find the puck and actually bury it, they just panic and whiff at the puck or push it back the goalie...that and point shots seem to rarely get through...

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Most of our d-men are struggling to put the puck on the net. Gorges and Komisarek are specialist at dumping the puck behind the net!

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thats not entirely true, more times than not, somebody will be in front of the net, most people fail to realize it cause whoever is in the crease area, doesn't know how to find the puck and actually bury it, they just panic and whiff at the puck or push it back the goalie...that and point shots seem to rarely get through...
That's definitely one of our main issues in the offensive zone.

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So is it just me or do we not have any skill at deflecting pucks into the enemy net. I'm talking pucks being tipped in mid air into the net, or ground pucks going top-corner. I'm quite sure this year we haven't scored a single goal of this type, it seems that Carbonneau or whoever is running the coaching on this team (yeah I'm not even sure anymore) just doesn't integrate this useful tactic into the gameplan. We could have won tonight's game by using this tactic - Schneider kept shooting wide so someone tips it on goal but Higgins kept missing. It seems like we are the only team in the league not adapting this strategy, why are we always on the perimiter and not in shooting lanes?
Kostopoulos scored one vs Boston on Roy night, don't recall a lot though.

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