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03-07-2009, 08:01 AM
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I'll draft defenseman Sergei Babinov and right winger Vlastimil Bubnik.

Babinov played 162 games for the Soviet national team. The games were played between 1975 and 1984 which is when Soviet Union was dominating the international hockey circles. There are probably players with better personal merits but Babinov was a part of arguably the best defense group Soviet Union ever had.

The competition level for the all-star spots was tough. First there were Lutchenko, Vasiliev and Pervukhin. They were taking all the national all-star team spots. Then Fetisov showed up. And the amazingly underappreciated Bilyaletdinov. Then Kasatonov joined the group as well. In 1981 World championships, the defense pairings were Fetisov-Kasatonov; Pervukhin-Bilyaletdinov; Babinov-Vasiliev. Not a bad company. And remember, Babinov was a regular part of the Red Army for 9 seasons.

Bubnik was a Czechoslovakian star whose best years were in the 50's, when Zabrodsky was likely the best player in the country, Tumba was shining for Sweden and Bobrov for the Soviets. Bubnik, however, was a good player himself as well. He took part in 4 Olympic tournaments. He was the leading scorer in 1955 world championships. In the Best Czech Hockey players of the Century voting, Bubnik placed 6th, only behind Hasek, Jagr, Zabrodsky, Martinec and Hlinka.

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03-07-2009, 08:01 AM
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I'll select the best goaltender in the draft and arguably the best player period..

G - Tom Paton

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One of the finest goalies of the pre-NHL era. From 1888-1892, had a record of 23-5-1 with 45 GA and 5 SO. His GAA during this period was 1.55 and four times had the AHAA's best GAA. Ultimate Hockey awarded him five retro Vezinas and a retro Hart.

And a guy who will work perfectly with Routh and former member of the AAA All-Star team..

C - Pelle Eklund



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Pelle Eklund was one of the most gifted skaters and playmakers to play for the Philadelphia Flyers.
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Blessed with skating, puckhandling and passing skills in 1983-84 Eklund won an Olympic bronze medal, a Canada Cup second place finish, a Swedish Elite League championship, a Swedish Golden Puck award as player of the year, and the nod as the Athlete of the Year in all of Sweden. In the NHL, Eklund became a powerplay and penalty kill specialist for the Flyers.

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03-07-2009, 08:06 AM
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The Spokane Canaries also are pleased to select a right winger who was a mainstay on Soviet national teams from winning Canada Cup '81 to the World Championships in 1993, was simply exceptional from 1987 to 1992:

Andrei Khomutov
Wow, I didn't realize he was still available. Nice pick. Oh well I'm verry happy with Bubnik too.

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03-07-2009, 08:07 AM
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Clarence McKerrow - (Center) The ‘’Jean Béliveau’’ of the 1890’s, the witty goalscorer was a gentleman and a determined hockey player. The man who took the great Lester Patrick under his wing.

Weldy Young – (Defenseman) A world class puck rusher in the early ERA, Young was a strong physical presence. The leader of the early Ottawa teams, he was a hated, but respected player around the league.

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03-07-2009, 09:22 AM
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R/CP Fred Whitcroft - a HOFer, and Stanley Cup winner with the Kenora Thistles. "Whitcroft possessed a solid, compact frame that would have better suited a defenseman, but he also possessed great speed, on-ice agility, and a gift for nifty stickhandling-- the tools of a prolific scorer" -Kenora Thistles site

C/D Billy McGimsie - another HOFer and Cup winner with Kenora. "Billy was fairly small for a centerman, only 5'8" and 145 pounds, but what he lacked in size he more than made up for in speed and agility. McGimsie was one of the fastest forwards of the day, as well as one of the finest passers." -Kenora Thistles site


RW/R Cecil Blanchford - Captain of 5 Stanley Cup winning teams and a few more Cup defences, he was one of the Wanderers' offensive stars and a clean player. Also seems to have been good defensively, having been awarded 2 'retro Selkes' by Ultimate Hockey.

C Ryan Getzlaf - physical 6'4 centre with soft hands and a rocket shot that can play the point on the powerplay. Not too many leading scorers on a Cup winning team left. He has also been dominate in international competition throughout his career, winning a couple Golds and a Silver.


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03-07-2009, 11:02 AM
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Clarence McKerrow - (Center) The ‘’Jean Béliveau’’ of the 1890’s, the witty goalscorer was a gentleman and a determined hockey player. The man who took the great Lester Patrick under his wing.

Weldy Young – (Defenseman) A world class puck rusher in the early ERA, Young was a strong physical presence. The leader of the early Ottawa teams, he was a hated, but respected player around the league.
You thief!

Since TWO of my targets were stolen in one fell swoop, Old No. 7 will select:

Edit: Oops, he was already taken, long ago.

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03-07-2009, 11:52 AM
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The Regina Pat Habs select two-time cup winner and PCHA 1st-team All-Star, RW Cully Wilson.

Also, we take a guy who we feel is the best offensive defenseman in the draft, D Jim McKenny. Known as "Howie" for his resemblance to another player/actor with the same name. McKenny had a couple big seasons with the Leafs, and as of last season (don't know if this has been changed since) was 4th on the Leafs all-time in points by a defenseman.

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03-07-2009, 12:32 PM
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Daytona Beach selects two Hall of Fame forwards

Arthur Farrell




1899 Stanley Cup Champion
1900 Stanley Cup Champion

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He joined the Montreal Shamrocks in 1897 as a forward and played on two Stanley Cup winning teams in 1899 and 1900. He once scored five goals in a game against Quebec on March 2, 1901, and was known as one of the men responsible for moving the focus of hockey from individual play to team, or "combination," play.


Fred Scanlan



1899 Stanley Cup Champion
1900 Stanley Cup Champion

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Frank J. Selke, a member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, once said of Scanlan: "He was the workhorse of the great Shamrock forward line, always ready for his share in the new-style combination attacks, combining heady play with an accurate shot."

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03-07-2009, 01:12 PM
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Alright, now that I've sorted out who actually IS available, Old No. 7 selects:

Tony Gingras (Forward)

Gingras was a star on the Winnipeg team that challenged for Stanley Cups in the late 1800's and early 1900's, winning the Cup in 1901. Though Dan Bain is a name somewhat well-known to history buffs, Gingras has been long forgotten it seems. But the fiery rover was in all likelihood just as valuable to those Winnipeg teams as Bain was. He was known as one of the games greatest stickhandlers, and scored seven goals in 16 Stanley Cup games.

Arthur "Dolly" Swift (Forward)

Perhaps the original Quebec star, Swift put up several top-5 scoring finishes in the 1890's. Is there any online source of information for pre-1893 seasons? I see several of those players have been selected.


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03-07-2009, 01:30 PM
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I know Gingras as an agile right winger who was a scorer on the 1901 Winnipeg Victorias Stanley Cup team. There are several references to him I've come across.

But Arthur Dolly Swift I had never heard of before now. Him and Oksanen.

My horizons are being expanded.

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03-07-2009, 02:29 PM
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Why did you go with Haynes? (perhaps post about it on the MLD championship thread as your Capitals team could sure have used Janney's playoff scoring excellence).
I've addressed Haynes' supposed playoff inedequacy in our matchup thread.

Janney needed the right wingers to be successful and I don't think Kozlov and Amonte were right. Janney was top-10 in assists 4 times like Haynes, but didn't peak as high, and was 7th in assists over his whole peak while Haynes was 4th. I concluded Haynes' dominance of his time was greater than that of Janney and I still feel that.

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i must echo my sentiments from yesterday.

Gradin and Khomutov are two forwards I'd have grabbed.

Paton is the best goalie if you consider all eras 100% equal. They're not, but with that said he still might be the best when you consider his level of dominance in those very early years.

Scanlan and Farrell were both on our list for a bit later on. Nice job taking them together - my proxy pick maker (or co-GM) was advised to take them together if at all.

Weldy Young, also known as "chalk" was a player I first learned of in Ultimate Hockey. but the book I recently read: "Win, Lose, Or Wrangle - The Inside Story of the Old Ottawa Senators, 1883-1935" had a lot about him. He was on my list IIRC - if he wasn't, he should have been.

I'm in the middle of a book about the Renfrew Millionaires right now and there is some good stuff about Whitcroft in there. I'd have loved to get him. We just had a few guys ahead of him.

Cully Wilson should have been taken before. At this level, he is able to play on any line - his goalscoring credentials are good enough for a scoring line (see my "consistency in goalscoring thread - he's a four-time top-15 scorer) and he has the toughness and two-way play for a bottom line role. There are very few left with a goalscoring record like that, and those that do, aren't the sparkplug that Wilson is. At this point it appears that he'll be Janney's ideal linemate but we'll see how the draft develops.

Jim McKenny was a guy who turned up in our MLD10 research when looking for offensive defensemen - he lost out to Brown but his credentials weren't that far off. He had one fewer top-15 finish but peaked higher than Brown - twice - it was just that he did it in a weaker era. At this point, as far as offensve defensemen go, he's got the potential to be the best - he was 2nd, 4th, 7th, 13th, 13th, 15th, 15th among NHL defensemen in scoring.


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Daytona Beach selects two Hall of Fame forwards

Arthur Farrell

Fred Scanlan
Both were my selection of tomorrow! My list is getting very thin pretty fast

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LW Butch Keeling
RW Tony Tanti

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LW Butch Keeling
I was this close to taking Keeling with one of my picks. You got yourself a valuable playoff performer.

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A few random thoughts while the wife gets ready to go out:

- I believe it's Blachford, not Blanchford. he was very high on my list. I really wanted to get him; unfortunately, I wanted at least six players more than him Outstanding top line glue guy for the AAA draft.

- Olczyk was on regina's list, although very low. I think he's a definite 2nd liner in this thing. It's not too late to make up for this pick - plenty of centers better than him are left.

- Getlaf I'm not too sure of, and that's not necessarily a dig at him. With newer players like him, I find it a little tough to judge when he's at that point where he finally belongs. He's certainly not the only post-lockout player to be taken before, and he is not the worst either.

- I'm not in any hurry to post mini-bios and it's not a primary concern of mine but I do hope to use my spare time here to post something that will do guys like Alex Smith and Cully Wilson justice.

Looking forward to drafting another guy tomorrow, who has NEVER been selected or mentioned before.

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03-08-2009, 08:35 AM
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I'll take C Andre Lacroix and G Cam Ward. Bios coming...

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I'll take C Andre Lacroix and G Cam Ward. Bios coming...
If this is the WHA Lacroix you are talking about, he was selected long ago. I thought it'd be polite to let you know.


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The Canaries of Spokane select an NHL rearguard who played 424 NHL games and registered 412 PIM from 1936-1946, recording a decent 108 points given his stay at home style, leading Toronto in blueline scoring twice, including the season he won the Stanley Cup as a Maple Leaf

Reg Hamilton



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... a tough defenseman who always finished his checks.
Many considered the Hamilton elbows the most lethal in the league until a young man named Gordon Howe came along.
http://www.legendsofhockey.net:8080/...p?player=12833

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03-08-2009, 09:01 AM
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The Spokane Canaries select its fourth line center now simply because the 12-year veteran may be the BPA in terms of ability to handle main ATD duties as a prototypical back line regular and penalty kill specialist, certainly the most NHL playoff experienced in this draft with a staggering 154 NHL playoff games

Stephane Yelle



Stanley Cup Champion (1996, 2001)

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...checking and penalty killing skills. Strong on faceoffs and considered one of the premier defensive players...
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.. an excellent faceoff taker and a gritty, hard-working player,... a shot blocker and checking specialist...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephane_Yelle

Despite not being a scorer at all, Yeller did score a key goal in each of the Avs two successful cup runs: in 1996 a game-tying, unassisted short-handed goal as part of a 3-2 overtime win in game one of that infamous series between Colorado and the Detroit Red Wings; in 2001 as the Avs streaked to their second Stanley Cup, Yelle---despite only scoring 3 points in 23 games---scored a game-winning overtime goal against the St. Louis Blues, moving Colorado to 3-1 in a series they would win with another OT victory in the very next game. These examples don't show his goal scoring ability, just his clutch effort, his giving it his all, at the highest levels of competition, a playoff warrior of a defensive kind.

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I'll add some Stanley Cup playoff experience to my team by taking LW Jim Riley and RW Pentti Lund.

Jim Riley was one of Seattle Metropolitans' Stanley Cup winners in 1917. He spent 7 years in PCHA, being named as an all-star 4 times. In 1921-22, Riley played on the top line with Bernie Morris and Frank Foyston.

Pentti Lund was the first ever Finn to score a goal in the NHL. He won the Calder Trophy in 1949. The promising right winger played his best hockey in 1950 with the Rangers. He scored incredible 6 goals and added 5 assists in just 12 playoff games. And that's not all. He not only led all playoff scorers but also managed to shut down Montreal's superstar Maurice "Rocket" Richard. Richard only managed to score in one of the five games thanks to Pentti's relentless checking of him. Lund will be a valuable piece of my third line.


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If this is the WHA Lacroix you are talking about, he was selected long ago. I thought it'd be polite to let you know.
Indeed, Lacroix was an extra skater on my New Haven Nighthawks in ATD10.

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D - "Big" Willie Huber


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Was NHL's tallest and heaviest player throughout most of his playing career, and was tallest player in N.Y. Rangers history at the time he played for team

Blessed with exceptional hands and skating ability, Huber was amongst the league's highest goal-scoring defenders in the early 1980s, and a fixture on the Detroit powerplay. While he was also solid in his own zone, fans often - unfairly - expected him to be a nasty physical presence, which didn't come as naturally to him.
321 points in 655 NHL games with 950 PIM. In NHL All-Star Game (1983).

In his 10-year NHL career his first five were his best:

1978-79 Detroit Red Wings NHL 68 7 24 31 114
1979-80 Detroit Red Wings NHL 76 17 23 40 164
1980-81 Detroit Red Wings NHL 80 15 34 49 130
1981-82 Detroit Red Wings NHL 74 15 30 45 98
1982-83 Detroit Red Wings NHL 74 14 29 43 106

RW - Pat Flatley


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A hard-working right-winger who could score and check, Pat Flatley spent over 13 years in the NHL during the 1980s and '90s. He was proficient at driving to the net, winning battles along the boards and in the corners and setting a good example on and off the ice.

Beginning in 1984-85, Flatley played twelve straight years with the Islanders. He worked on the power play and killed penalties and emerged as a team leader as he gained NHL experience.

Flatley hit the 20-goal mark twice and recorded a personal- high of 60 points in 1992-93. That same year his leadership was vital to the team's upset of the Pittsburgh Penguins on the way to reaching the Stanley Cup semi-finals.
GM: 780
G: 170
A: 340
P: 510
PIM: 680

That's great production for any player in the AAA draft. Combine that with his all-around game and his 5 years as Islanders captain and he makes an excellent two-way forward who can provide a ton of leadership for this draft.

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For my first pick today, Old No. 7 selects:

Don "Bones" Raleigh (C)

Raleigh had a solid 10 year career with the Rangers, scoring 320 points in 530 games. His career best was 61 points in 1951-52, good enough for fourth in league scoring.

His claim to fame, and the reason I think he deserves recognition, is his play in the 1950 Stanley Cup final. He scored OT winners in games 4 and 5 against Detroit. In game 7, I believe he rang another off the post in OT. The Rangers lost that incredibly close series, but it was probably the lone bright spot they had in the original-6 era. Raleigh scored 4-5-9 in 12 playoff games that post-season, and was also important in their first round upset of Montreal.

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If this is the WHA Lacroix you are talking about, he was selected long ago. I thought it'd be polite to let you know.
Thanks.

I'll go back to the WHA and take RW Serge Bernier instead.

-WHA playoff MVP and Championship in '77, 2nd team all-star in '75
-Played in the '74 Summit Series

"Right-winger Serge Bernier was a fine playmaker and scorer in the NHL who became an explosive force with the WHA's Quebec Nordiques. He was a good skater whose 190-pound frame allowed him to stand his ground in front of the net."


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