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03-12-2009, 09:17 AM
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My fourth line will be built around the fourth brother combination in the history of the Rangers: LW Bill Warwick and RW Grant Warwick.
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I still picked them for what they did in Europe.

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RW Dallas Drake - good checker and penalty killer who can skate and hits like a truck. He'll form a nasty line to play against teamed with Libett and Stem. Along with Getzlaf he also gives us two of the most annoying faces all-time.

D Risto Siltanen

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We draft the guy nicknamed "Hinky", whose career spanned 1955-69 but whose peak quality years ran from his first all-star game appearance in 1958, when he was still expected (unreasonably so) to be "The Next Kennedy", to his third cup as a role player with the dynasty Leafs in 1964.

Billy Harris



1955 Memorial Cup champion (and leading playoff scorer)
Toronto Maple Leafs' top-scoring centre (1958, 1959)
Stanley Cup champion (1962, 1963, 1964)

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345 points in 769 NHL games
in NHL All-Star Game (1958, 1962, 1963, 1964)

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In many ways, Billy Harris was the definitive Maple Leaf from the NHL's six-team days.

Harris was the Toronto boy who learned the game at the various levels of the Marlboro organization, never forgot an inspirational talk by Leaf captain Syl Apps to a peewee team's banquet and was a member of Leaf teams that won three consecutive Stanley Cup championships from 1962 to '64.

...often joked that he probably was born with the club's insignia etched on his body.

"When you grow up in the Broadview-Danforth area, go to Withrow Park school and spend all your time on the outdoor rink at Riverdale Park, you aren't likely to want to be a Boston Bruin," Harris said. "I once wrote letters to all the Leafs on the great teams after the war in the late '40s, telling each one he was my favourite player, then worried that they would compare the letters and say that this kid was full of it. I got cards with pictures from several of them which I kept all my life."

Hockey television commentator Harry Neale, who was a teammate in their Marlie days, said Harris was a superbly skilled hockey player and also a gentleman.

"He always struck me as being more of a gentleman than most of us who played hockey," Neale recalled yesterday. "He was always interested in other people, in their ups and their downs."
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Pat Quinn will never forget Billy Harris... Quinn, in his first NHL game in 1968 with the Leafs, tried to run Harris through the boards.

The big defenceman missed the cagey forward, who was playing for the Pittsburgh Penguins in the last of his 13 NHL seasons.

"He gave me that old inside-out move and went in and scored a goal," Quinn recalled while reminiscing Thursday after learning Harris had died earlier in the day.

"(Coach) Punch Imlach really gave it to me so I didn't like Billy Harris at the time."
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And now, the only pre-written bio I've ever done in the last 5 drafts:

C Alexei Guryshev



If Bobrov can be a good 2nd line winger in the ATD, then this guy should be a star as a 4th line center in the AAA. He was a big, robust mule of a center. Russian hockey was still developing but he was a big part of their triumph over Canada in 1956, and even two years after that, at age 32 he still led the league in scoring. Also, in start contrast to Bobrov, I haven't read anything about him being selfish or one-dimensional.

- 6'0", 185 lbs
- Olympic Gold (1956)
- World Championship Gold (1954)
- World Championship Silver (1955, 1957, 1958, 1959)
- Soviet League Leading Scorer (1949, 1955, 1957, 1958)
- Top-4 in Russian League Scoring seven more times (3rd-1950, 4th-1951, 3rd-1952, 3rd-1953, 2nd-1954, 3rd-1956, 4th-1961)
- Soviet League All-Star (1949, 1955, 1956, 1957)
- 379 goals in 300 league games (1.26/game, Bobrov had 1.80/game but in a shorter career in an easier-to-score-in league)
- 35 goals in 41 international games
- 71 goals in 92 games with the national team
- 11th all-time in Russian goals scored - only player on the entire top-25 list to not be selected yet (see chart below)

The Team CCCP website at chidlovski shows that Guryshev led the Soviet League five times. This is incorrect - he did it four times, 1953 is wrong. It was actually Shuvalov.

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Although often forgotten by modern generations, Alexei Guryshev is a legend of Russian hockey, particularly with the Soviet Wings team (Krylja Sovetov).

Described as the "Phil Esposito of the early decades Russian hockey," Guryshev is the third highest scorer in Soviet hockey history with 379 career goals, trailing only Boris Mikhailov and Vyacheslav Starshinov. He was a scoring machine, adding 35 goals in 41 Olympic/World championship games. Like Esposito, Guryshev often scored on rebounds and in the slot. He teamed expertly with ******* ******** on a line with ******** *******.

Guryshev was a member of the Olympic gold medal team in 1956 and WC gold medal in 1954. After retiring as a player he served as an international referee.

Guryshev is a legend in Russia, but would be even bigger had he played with other Moscow teams.
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to this day, Guryshev is synonymous with the name Soviet Wings... spearheaded their forward line for 15 years and was the top scorer five times... Tall, well-built and resilient, his superb stickhandling and skaing resulted ina style that was both elegant and strategic. A player of exceptional control, he never resorted to battering ram-style charges or frenzied scuffles for the puck. his specialty was cutting through the confusion with split-second timing and sending the puck into the net... An uncanny instinct for goalscoring and a superb finishing shot were his trump cards, but Guryshev may best be remembered for his unusual slapshot - matched only by ****** ******* and Viktor Shuvalov. With no windup, it was a short, quick slap causing the puck to sail straight through midair like a bullet. Guryshev's control of the stick, holding it with a short grip in an almost horizontal position, enabled him to slap the puck on the fly with amazing speed. Guryshev's strength as a forward and leading goalscorer depended on wingers ***** ***** and ****** *****, who drew opposition defensemen away from Guryshev while feeding passes to him as he positioned hmself near the net. Wings coach ******** ******* consciously built the game around Guryshev's exceptional scoring ability, freeing him from defense duties... the opposition's greatest challenge was to neutralize Guryshev... the strongest and most experienced defensemen were assigned teh job, but they were rarely successful... even compared to bobrov's line, Guryshev's troika chalked up impressive scores during the '55 and '57 WCs. During the 1954 WC game against Canada, it was Guryshev who scored the significant first goal...always remained in control of his game, never losing his cool despite constant attempts to neutralize him. His skill lay in being able to soze up the goalie's position and stance, the possibility of the enemy's defense line blocking his shot and the precision of his reammate on teh ice with instant precision. Then, with split-second accuract, Guryshev would take advantage of his opponents confusion to fire the puck into the net...even after his former partners had hung up their skates, Guryshev continued to play and score goals. At age 30, he scored 41, then 36, 32, and 40. Even at 36, Guryshev scored an impressive 19 goals during the 1960-61 season.
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A big centre-man who hogged the slot area and got a lot of heavy traffic goals for his wings club...one of only three players to average more than a goal a game...second on the Russians in 1956 Olympics with 7 goals
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Could play on any team in the NHL.
Top Russian Goalscorers
* Played in Summit Series '72

Rn. Player Nat Team Euro Cups National Championships National Clubs transcontinental Total
*1 Boris Mikhailov 203 25 428 34 6 696
*2 Vladimir Petrov 189 32 370 15 4 610
*3 Vyacheslav Starshinov 149 2 406 28 - 585
*4 Sergey Makarov 190 59 322 5 - 576
*5 Aleksander Maltsev 212 - 329 16 1 558
*6 Valery Kharlamov 193 24 293 21 7 538
*7 Aleksander Yakushev 145 2 339 25 2 513
*8 Anatoly Firsov 134 14 345 12 4 509
*9 Veniamin Aleksandrov 117 - 351 22 - 490
10 Vladimir Krutov 152 34 288 6 - 480
11 Aleksandr Guryshev 70 - 379 30 - 479
12 Vladimir Vikulov 109 13 283 39 6 450
13 Helmut Balderis 72 3 333 19 - 427
14 Sergey Kapustin 118 5 278 12 - 413
15 Vsevolod Bobrov 94 - 254 31 - 379
16 Viktor Shalimov 66 3 293 17 - 379
17 Nikolay Drozdetsky 64 34 253 11 - 362
18 Andrey Khomutov 101 43 197 2 - 343
19 Vyacheslav Bykov 101 28 195 3 - 327
20 Boris Majorov 63 - 255 8 - 326
21 Igor Larionov 80 19 204 7 - 310
22 Konstantin Loktev 84 - 213 8 - 305
23 Aleksander Almetov 78 - 212 15 - 305
24 Vladimir Shadrin 71 4 214 13 2 304
25 Viktor Zhluktov 78 13 197 8 - 296


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03-12-2009, 11:12 AM
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A physical and good defensive defenseman in the #7 spot? Really? The guy stabilized every defense he played on and was considered a great leader.


I've seen worse guys picked so far in this draft and picked in the MLD..so I don't really see how he should be best used as a 7th defenseman.
No question that there have been worse guys taken in the MLD. IMO, there are still a few guys left who fit his description, who just did it better, or longer, or enjoyed more team success while doing it.

Sorry, didn't mean to sound like I was grilling you. I obviously like Quinn, I'm the one who mentioned him in that top-1000 thread a few times

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My fourth line will be built around the fourth brother combination in the history of the Rangers: LW Bill Warwick and RW Grant Warwick.

The Warwicks were part of one of the greatest world championship teams ever assembled: The Pentincton Vees. They crushed the Soviets 5-0 in the gold medal decisive game in 1955. A hockey columnist Dick Beddoes wrote: "Believe me, until you´ve seen the Penticton Vees playing for a hockey title, you ain´t been nowhere and you ain´t seen nothing - nothing at all." Nikolai Solugobov agreed. He thought the Pentincton Vees were better than the WHA formation lead by Gordie Howe. I'm very excited to add two key members of the Vees to my roster.
Fan-friggin-tastic pick.

I was looking at my goal-scoring consistency chart (see the history section) last night and eliminating names that were selected already. Warwick, with a top-10, four top-15s, and six top-20s, is arguably the best goalscorer left.

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RW Dallas Drake - good checker and penalty killer who can skate and hits like a truck. He'll form a nasty line to play against teamed with Libett and Stem. Along with Getzlaf he also gives us two of the most annoying faces all-time.

D Risto Siltanen
Love both picks. Drake was really high on our list for a 4th-line winger and Siltanen was one of the best offensive D-men left.

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Fred Maxwell - (Defense) Inducted into the Hall of Fame in 1964, Steamer was an all-around talented defenseman who refused to turn professional, even though offers was made several time.

MSHL Second All-Star Team (1911)
MSHL Championships (1914 & 1915)
Allan Cup Championship (1915 & 1920)
Olympic Gold Metalist (1920)
MSHL Championships (1927 & 1930)
World Championship Gold Medalist (1935)
Inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame in 1962
Honoured Member” of the Manitoba Hockey Hall of Fame



Nikolay Puchkov - (Goaltender) An 8-time Russian All-Star, the 5-foot-10 goaltender won an olympic Gold medal in 1956 and was inducted into the USSR Hockey Hall of Fame in 1954.

Russian League All Stars (1954, 1955, 1956, 1957, 1958, 1959, 1960, 1962)
IIHF Best Goaltender (1959)
Olympics Gold Medal (1956)
Olympics Bronze Medal (1960)
USSR Hockey Hall of Fame (1954)
- Best All-Time GAA of CCCP hockey of any goaltender with a less 30 games.
- 3rd in Shutouts
- 4th in career wins


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Todd Bertuzzi - Clarence McKerrow (C) -
Ted Irvine - Ivan Boldirev - Wildor Larochelle
XXX - Terry Crisp - Paul Holmgren
XXX - XXX - XXX

Weldy Young - Fred Maxwell
Doug Lidster - XXX
Gary Nylund - Patrice Brisebois

Vladimir Myshkin
Nikolay Puchkov
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1966-1979
1980-1989
1990-1999
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The Spokane Canaries add another physical presence to the blueline with a defensive defenseman who can hit, play it rough, and still handle the puck with skill

Lyle Odelein

Stanley Cup champion (1993)

252 points and 2316 PIM in 1056 NHL games (18 NHL playoff points in in 86 NHL postseason games)

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A native of Quill Lake, Saskatchewan, Lyle Odelein was an offensive and physical force in junior... in Montreal impressed with his stubborn refusal to back down against enemy skaters...

A rugged blueliner, Odelein was a tough, physical player in his own zone and was a mainstay on the Habs' blueline through the 1995-96 season. He was a key defender when the club won the Stanley Cup in 1993 and registered a career-high eleven goals the next season. Odelein was traded to the New Jersey Devils in the summer of 1996. Prior to joining the Devils for the 1996-97 season, the veteran blueliner played hard in two games for Canada at the 1996 World Cup of Hockey.

Odelein thrived in New Jersey's close checking and physical system. He was a fixture on their blueline
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His playing style adapted through his career; primarily used as a defensive defenceman early in his career (as well as an enforcer), but became more of a two-way threat when former Montreal Canadiens coach Jacques Demers used him on the power play.

His first NHL goal was a highlight-reel end-to-end rush against Chicago Blackhawks goalie Ed Belfour on December 19, 1991.

Odelein won the Stanley Cup with the Montreal Canadiens in 1993.

The 1993–94 NHL season marked Odelein's career highlight. He scored 11 goals, 29 assists and 40 points, all career highs. As well, he scored a hat trick against St. Louis Blues.. on March 9, 1994. His 5 assists on February 20, 1994 against the Hartford Whalers, tied a single-game record for Canadiens defensemen held by Doug Harvey.

Prior to the 1996-97 season, Odelein was traded by the Canadiens to the New Jersey Devils for Stephane Richer on August 22, 1996. In the 1999-00 season, his fourth with the Devils,.. claimed in the expansion draft by the Columbus Blue Jackets on June 23, 2000. Lyle was later named the first captain of the Columbus Blue Jackets before their inaugral season in 2000-01.
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D Albert Langlois



- Stanley Cup (1958, 1959, 1960)
- Stanley Cup Finalist (1964)
- 7th in scoring by defensemen (1962)

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Albert Langlois was a rugged defenceman who could also move the puck up ice effectively. He played nearly 500 NHL games with four different clubs in the 1950s and '60s.

The steady rearguard helped the Habs finish off the last three years of their five-Cup dynasty in 1959 and 1960. As a member of the defending champions, he also participated in two All-Star Games. Following the 1960-61 season, he was traded to the New York Rangers for John Hanna.

Langlois continued to run into bodies with the Rangers and also played a bit more on offense. Late in the 1963-64 season, he joined the Detroit Red Wings and helped the club reach the Stanley Cup finals with his solid work behind the blueline. In 1965-66, he played one last NHL season as a veteran presence on the Boston Bruins' defence the year before Bobby Orr arrived. Langlois retired in 1967 after scoring 40 points and delivering many hard hits for the WHL's Los Angeles Blades.


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Nikolay Puchkov - (Goaltender) An 8-time Russian All-Star...
Nice pick. Was on my team's shortlist for starter.

With his many years of steady top level play as the #1 Soviet netminder, shouldn't he be the starter for the Victorias even though Myshkin has the better peak? Myshkin played the backup role, the come-in guy who actually did brilliant in that role except for that one, itsy bitsy time.

If you go with the longtime Soviet league all-star then if he falters in an all-time context you know you have a backup clutch guy ready and proven to step in.

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Nice pick. Was on my team's shortlist for starter.

With his many years of steady top level play as the #1 Soviet netminder, shouldn't he be the starter for the Victorias even though Myshkin has the better peak? Myshkin played the backup role, the come-in guy who actually did brilliant in that role except for that one, itsy bitsy time.

If you go with the longtime Soviet league all-star then if he falters in an all-time context you know you have a backup clutch guy ready and proven to step in.
Something to think about. To be honest, in this particular draft, I'm just trying to select the besy players I can find, without too much strategy (and not look completely stupid with my selection). Maybe it would be a better stratagy.

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Odelein looks like Langlois Lite ... I've been schooled.

Potvin had a quality 4-year peak, though thankfully - with his shaky rep - he's only a backup to Hrudey on the Ice Cream Men, the most NHL wins in this draft along with a step-in peak great as backup. A good tandem.

Myshkin is the best pick among goalies in this draft imo because of his repeated peak performances against the world's/NHL's best, ... he could be a main ATD third stringer or certainly a top quality MLD backup.

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Daytona selects RW Kelly Buchberger



1987 Stanley Cup Champion
1990 Stanley Cup Champion
1994 World Championship Gold Medal

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and RW Joe Benoit



1939 World Championship Gold Medal
1946 Stanley Cup Champion

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An entertaining right winger, Joe Benoit was a member of the Montreal Canadiens, providing the team with a spectacular scoring during the early 1940s. Between 1940 and 1943, Benoit was one of the team's leading point-getters. He made his presence felt in his first season with 16 goals and 16 assists in only 45 games. The following year he recorded 20 goals and 16 assists, then improved to an impressive 30 goals and 27 helpers in 49 games. Military service prevented him from playing in the NHL during the 1943-44 season.

International hockey fans are most familiar with Benoit as a member of the Trail (British Columbia) Smoke Eaters squad that represented Canada in the World Championships at the end of the 1938-39 season. In seven games during the World tournament, he recorded six goals and three assists for nine points, helping Canada win the gold medal.




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Don Lever - (Left Wing) A strong two-way forward, Lever scored 9 - 20 goals season in the NHL, most of them with the Vancouver Canucks. He was a strong penalty-killer and a good leader.

OMJHL First All-Star Team (1972)
OMJHL MVP (1972)
Bronze medal at the World Championship of 178
Played in NHL All-Star Game (1982)


Nikolay Puchkov - (Goaltender) An 8-time Russian All-Star, the 5-foot-10 goaltender won an olympic Gold medal in 1956 and was inducted into the USSR Hockey Hall of Fame in 1954.

Russian League All Stars (1954, 1955, 1956, 1957, 1958, 1959, 1960, 1962)
IIHF Best Goaltender (1959)
Olympics Gold Medal (1956)
Olympics Bronze Medal (1960)
USSR Hockey Hall of Fame (1954)
- Best All-Time GAA of CCCP hockey of any goaltender with a less 30 games.
- 3rd in Shutouts
- 4th in career wins


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Todd Bertuzzi - Clarence McKerrow (C) -
Ted Irvine - Ivan Boldirev - Wildor Larochelle
Don Lever (A) - Terry Crisp - Paul Holmgren
XXX - XXX - XXX

Weldy Young - XXX
Doug Lidster - XXX
Gary Nylund - Patrice Brisebois

Vladimir Myshkin
Nikolay Puchkov
XXX


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1940-1965
1966-1979
1980-1989
1990-1999
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Lever went in the All-Time draft to HO at #647.

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Myshkin is the best pick among goalies in this draft imo because of his repeated peak performances against the world's/NHL's best, ... he could be a main ATD third stringer or certainly a top quality MLD backup.
I don't know if you will agree but Eagle told me that he thought Paton was gone when he picked Myshkin. And when he realized he wasn't, after I picked him..he said he was by far the best goaltender in the draft and should be at worse..a MLD starter or top quality backup and definitely could be a thirdstring in the ATD.

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Bah! I was sure Siltanen was already taken, great pick.

Lyle Odelein is a guy a just about took yesterday. Good thing you jumped on him VI, or he'd have probably been mine today.

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... Eagle told me that he thought Paton was gone when he picked Myshkin. And when he realized he wasn't, after I picked him..he said he was by far the best goaltender in the draft...
His opinion... Paton was not on my radar and I know so little about hockey in the 1880s. I guess so. ... I'd like to hear accolades of the time, quotes from books or newspaper articles... other than the Ultimate Hockey book, which does give him retro vezinas but is that based mostly on statistics, his low GAA?... I dunno.. still would like more sources about the guy... just never came across anything about him before...

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Lyle Odelein is a guy a just about took yesterday. Good thing you jumped on him VI, or he'd have probably been mine today.
Yeah I thought someone might, so I took a guy who'll play on my team's 6/7 slot before my #4 and #5 simply because of such expectation.

Odelein is one of those defensemen who impressed me repeatedly without me being a particular fan of theirs. I noted his effectiveness when he was a Hab. I cursed his effectiveness when he was a Devil. And I respected his effectiveness as a Bluejacket captain.


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His opinion... Paton was not on my radar and I know so little about hockey in the 1880s. I guess so. ... I'd like to hear accolades of the time, quotes from books or newspaper articles... other than the Ultimate Hockey book, which does give him retro vezinas but is that based mostly on statistics, his low GAA?... I dunno.. still would like more sources about the guy... just never came across anything about him before...
Yeah, im still looking. I know he was Eagle's third string in ATD 9, so ive been looking alot on the web to find something on him.

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oups, funny Lever dosn't comes up in my search engine, but I now see he's taken by HO, I'll select Fred ''Steamer'' Maxwell instead.

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It was easy for the scouts to see that in Lane they would be getting a stay-at-home, stay-in-your face defender who could play a very bellicose brand of hockey.

The up-and-coming Isles were in need of a tough, ornery defender whose profile fit Lane's to a tee

He was paired with Dave Langevin and as a duo the two played solid, kitty-bar-the-door defense that laid the necessary foundation to help lead the club to four-straight Stanley Cupvictories.

Lane has been credited as being the team's most effective defender during that era.
A team that featured defenseman like Denis Potvin, Stefan Persson and Dave Langevin...and it was Lane who was often credited as the team's most effective defender during their 4 cup reign.

LW - Darcy Rota


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First Canucks LW to ever score 40 goals in a season. Also showed grit. Was coming into his own when injuries ended his career.
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Darcy Rota was a scoring ace. Under coach Billy Reay's direction, Rota was pressured to stick to his wing, moving up and down in the older, traditional style of the NHL. With such specific direction, he was able to quickly develop into a more balanced player.

On the West Coast, he turned his offensive game up to his personal-best level, netting 81 points during the 1982-83 campaign. The following season, however, he suffered a serious spinal injury that raised talk of wheelchairs and retirement. But after neck surgery, the wheelchair was ruled out while retirement was ushered in.

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D - Gord Lane

A team that featured defenseman like Denis Potvin, Stefan Persson and Dave Langevin...and it was Lane who was often credited as the team's most effective defender during their 4 cup reign.
Dude...Thats a pretty bold statement

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Old No. 7 selects:

Ethan Moreau (LW)

I'll try to squeeze in a bio for them before the end of the night.


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Dude...Thats a pretty bold statement
That statement isn't made by me...that's off of Legends of Hockey. Just put into perspective.

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Odelein looks like Langlois Lite ... I've been schooled.
Well thanks, that's nice of you to say

I always knew Odelein to be quite physical. But, for conversation's sake... I noticed in 2005-06 he had just 6 hits in 27 games. Was something wrong with him that season?

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Daytona selects RW Kelly Buchberger

Anyone else care to comment on Buchberger's defensive ability? I wouldn't call it "solid". He was a leader and a fighter and a grinder but he has the worst adjusted +/- in NHl history... -221, 32 lower than the next worst mark. I thought this could partially be attributed to the fact that his off-ice benchmarks were Gretzky and Messier, but he played just 19 games with Wayne and roughly 200 with the Moose, who is overrated anyway. He's a lot of things, but I'm not sure solid defensively is one of them.

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and RW Joe Benoit
Benoit was in the top-10 in remaining goalscorers according to my research.

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His opinion... Paton was not on my radar and I know so little about hockey in the 1880s. I guess so. ... I'd like to hear accolades of the time, quotes from books or newspaper articles... other than the Ultimate Hockey book, which does give him retro vezinas but is that based mostly on statistics, his low GAA?... I dunno.. still would like more sources about the guy... just never came across anything about him before...
You won't find anything. it's very, very tough to find anything in the newspapers before around 1920. Unfortunately, all we really have is ultimate hockey. yes, I assume the retro vezinas are due to his low GAA. This could be individually attained, team attained (the MAAA was a powerhouse), or both. We don't really know. All we can do is make educated guesses based on what little we know. It's only fair that this calls the legitimacy of the pick into question, but when we get that far back (and for that matter, when we pick amateurs and overseas players who never faced the best) we have to use our imaginations a little in these things. FWIW, I think it's safe to assume he was the best goalie of his time. Whether the era means much in the grand scheme of things is open to debate.

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oups, funny Lever dosn't comes up in my search engine, but I now see he's taken by HO, I'll select Fred ''Steamer'' Maxwell instead.
Damn! I really wanted to grab this HHOFer, but I just didn't know what I'd do with him. He'd have made a fantastic extra.

I think that's all the HHOFers now.

Speaking of steamers, there's a guy with four cups who hasn't been taken yet...

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Old No. 7 selects:

Jack Marks (RW)

Ethan Moreau (LW)

I'll try to squeeze in a bio for them before the end of the night.
Marks would be a great pick, but he was taken late in the MLD.

Moreau is a great 4th line LW.

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Dude...Thats a pretty bold statement
I agree, it is. But that's what loh.net says. that single statment alone makes him worth picking by this point in the draft. On the other hand, he never played a full season with them. He's the kind of pick where opinions will inevitably vary.

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Thoughts on the Guryshev pick, anyone? I'm curious.

Also, sorry about the roster thread. I won't be able to update each guy with a mini-bio but I will at least link each player's name to their bio post in this thread. hopefully that is ok.

I'll be on a train again within 16 hours and will likely have no internet access for three whole days. VCL will be completing the roster for us.

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