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03-06-2009, 05:05 PM
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To look at his points and suggest this is the player he is, means you haven't watched him play enough.

Mitchell played most of this season with players like Mayers and May getting 12 minutes of playing time.

Plus minus on this Leafs' team is senseless, their goaltending until very recently was, without exaggeration, the worst in the league with the statistical evidence to support that statement.

When he's been given opportunities with NHL players, he's done well.

As mentioned, and as I've mentioned elsewhere, his growth curve is quite linear, but it seems continuous. Last year a few of us were bringing up how well he was doing in the AHL, but most here were living under preconceived notions and following a vocal group that cannot see past their own bias.

There were games last year in the AHL were Mitchell seemed to physically outmatch many of his opponents.

He is another player the Leafs have let develop in the AHL, basically because there was no pressure or clambering to get a high pick into the show.
Which is ideal, and how it should be. Which is something I attribute to the success of teams like the Wings, and Devils.

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03-06-2009, 05:08 PM
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Stajan is a bona fide #2 centreman.

On pace for 60+ points on a top-10 scoring team in the league.
Enjoy this team Zeke

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03-06-2009, 05:11 PM
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Enjoy this team Zeke
I do. all the time.

Especially when they continue to show that they're very hard to beat when they get decent goaltending, being led by a very nice young core with Schenn, White, Stajan, Mitchell, Kulemin....and with a couple beauties ripping it up in the AHL, and a bunch of other great kids ripping it up in the CHL.

Now you enjoy your dreams of sucking for 5 years so you can get your hands on 2-3 good kids who might be good enough to lead a team to a cup in 7 or 8 years time.

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35-point, third line player imo.

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03-06-2009, 05:16 PM
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35-point, third line player imo.
...is what he is this year in his rookie season.

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...is what he is this year in his rookie season.
Oh right. Just like how Matt Stajan is a 60 point bonafide 2nd line center.

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...is what he is this year in his rookie season.
Not sure that he's really been pencilled in anywhere this season. A good utility player is what he's added up to in my eyes. I don't know where his ceiling will be, I just want to sit back, and enjoy his progression, which is positive.

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03-06-2009, 05:27 PM
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Oh right. Just like how Matt Stajan is a 60 point bonafide 2nd line center.
How about we just sit, wait, and see what happens. I see Mitchell with 2nd line center upside, but that's the high end, and maybe not likely to be reached.

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3rd line at best but most likely a 4th.

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03-06-2009, 05:34 PM
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Age 22 - AHL Regular Season + Playoffs

J.Mitchell: 98gms, 28gls, 63pts(82gms, 23gls, 53pts)
M.Grabovski: 86gms, 21gls, 65pts (82gms, 20gls, 62pts)

Age 23 - AHL Regular Season + Playoffs

J.Mitchell: ------
M.Grabovski: 12gms, 8gls, 20pts

Age 23 - NHL Regular Season

J.Mitchell: 59gms, 7gls, 22pts (82gms, 10gls, 31pts)
M.Grabovski: 24gms, 3gls, 9pts (82gms, 10gls, 31pts)




good thing we had to go out and waste picks on a one dimensional guy like grabo, when we had a guy just as good offensively, but much better all around, waiting in the wings.

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Age 22 - AHL Regular Season + Playoffs

J.Mitchell: 98gms, 28gls, 63pts(82gms, 23gls, 53pts)
M.Grabovski: 86gms, 21gls, 65pts (82gms, 20gls, 62pts)

Age 23 - AHL Regular Season + Playoffs

J.Mitchell: ------
M.Grabovski: 12gms, 8gls, 20pts

Age 23 - NHL Regular Season

J.Mitchell: 59gms, 7gls, 22pts (82gms, 10gls, 31pts)
M.Grabovski: 24gms, 3gls, 9pts (82gms, 10gls, 31pts)




good thing we had to go out and waste picks on a one dimensional guy like grabo, when we had a guy just as good offensively, but much better all around, waiting in the wings.
Sweet!! We have another Grabovski...

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Sweet!! We have another Grabovski...
He's comparing stats, not playing style. I consider Mitchell much more valuable than Grabovsky, who is far limited in ability.

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Sweet!! We have another Grabovski...
What happened to the whole "I'm a Kings fan" phase?

Good 3rd line center with the possibility of hitting 20 goals a few times. He'll likely be more consistent around the 15 mark though


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It's really funny that people think that the Leafs could be top-10 in league scoring without having even a 2nd line centre.

Ah well, whatever people have to convince themselves of, I guess.

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Sweet!! We have another Grabovski...
Grabovski's offense, but unlike Grabo, he's got everything else you want in an NHL player.

Grabo's got the offense to be a 2nd line centre, but the rest of his game is lacking badly.

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I'd be interested to see what the Leafs record is when they get .900 save percentage.

Yes, I know all teams have blow-outs, but when your starter has a .885, which is around where Toskala was until his recent hot spell, I'm not sure many teams not named Detroit will win.

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He's comparing stats, not playing style. I consider Mitchell much more valuable than Grabovsky, who is far limited in ability.
I am well aware of what he is doing thank you.

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What happened to the whole "I'm a Kings fan" phase?

Good 3rd line center with the possibility of hitting 20 goals a few times. He'll likely be more consistent around the 15-18 mark though
The Kings are certainly the front runners as of now, but as I have stated on numerous occasions, my next team will be dependent on who selects Magnus Svensson Paajarvi.

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I'd be interested to see what the Leafs record is when they get .900 save percentage.

Yes, I know all teams have blow-outs, but when your starter has a .885, which is around where Toskala was until his recent hot spell, I'm not sure many teams not named Detroit will win.
16-8 for Vesa

2-0 for CuJo

1-0 for Gerber

1-1 for Pogge

Total 20 wins and 9 loses

Didn't take the time to break down OT losses, I just counted them all as a straight out loss.

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I do. all the time.

Especially when they continue to show that they're very hard to beat when they get decent goaltending, being led by a very nice young core with Schenn, White, Stajan, Mitchell, Kulemin....and with a couple beauties ripping it up in the AHL, and a bunch of other great kids ripping it up in the CHL.
Some folks find satisfaction in the little things right in front of them.

Others find their's in imagining distant heroes swooping in to save the day.

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John Mitchell's potential


Likely no more then a fringe 3rd/4th liner with lots of grit and work ethic.

He has shown no offensive ability at any level played thus far and is unlikely to develop at the NHL

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good third Line center/quality 2nd line fill-in guy at best i think.

basically another Matt Stajan.

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Shawn Horcoff at best
If he's going to be that good i'd say he's a steal

I'd say good 2nd line Center for us will be his career potiential.

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good third Line center/quality 2nd line fill-in guy at best i think.

basically another Matt Stajan.
Great! That means we have another bonafide second line center

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i think he will be a jason arnott type of centre.. a good second line centre who will sign for less... the guy has some seriuos skill and he is already the best centre on this team and he still has more to give, the future is bright for him

go mithcell !!!!!

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it'd be cool if Dale Mitchell made it to the NHL. We'd have a dynamic Mitchell duo to dominate the NHL and take over the world! Bwahahaha!!

Okay a bit carried away... my bad

JMitch is gonna be a solid third liner, and hopefully a good leader eventually when we start to get back into the mix...

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