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03-09-2009, 06:35 PM
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well, gainey confirmed he wouldn't have taken the same decisions carbo took about the goaltenders.

needless to say he was not happy to see halak getting so many games recently.

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well, gainey confirmed he wouldn't have taken the same decisions carbo took about the goaltenders.

needless to say he was not happy to see halak getting so many games recently.
Needless to say? How did you take that away from the comments?

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well, gainey confirmed he wouldn't have taken the same decisions carbo took about the goaltenders.

needless to say he was not happy to see halak getting so many games recently.
If by needless to say, you mean, that's not at all what he said.

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well, gainey confirmed he wouldn't have taken the same decisions carbo took about the goaltenders.

needless to say he was not happy to see halak getting so many games recently.
Or maybe he was ticked Price played against Dallas and not Halak.

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I doubt Gainey would have bag skated Halak (the season saviour) the day after a game he didn't even dress for.

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Needless to say? How did you take that away from the comments?
then, it's about what you think ? price was getting most of the games before the asg and there was no problem (except when price was injured) . then, price started to suck and halak was given games. i don't see how this could not be about this?

though, i admit i could be wrong... what's your interpretation ?

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then, it's about what you think ? price was getting most of the games before the asg and there was no problem (except when price was injured) . then, price started to suck and halak was given games. i don't see how this could not be about this?

though, i admit i could be wrong... what's your interpretation ?
I didn't hear what Gainey said about handling the goalies, but there's no way he has a problem with letting Halak play when he's single-handedly winning games and Price is struggling.

If he has any problems with the goaltending situation it's that Halak isn't being treated fairly.

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I think Bob may be playing Price more but if Price wouldn't have been injured, we would have never known that Halak was this good. So the Habs as an organisation would have never known what they had as an assett.

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then, it's about what you think ? price was getting most of the games before the asg and there was no problem (except when price was injured) . then, price started to suck and halak was given games. i don't see how this could not be about this?

though, i admit i could be wrong... what's your interpretation ?
Yeah.. cause Gainey wanted to be out of the playoffs.. and that could of happened the way Price was playing.

Gainey FIRED Carbo for the simple fact that we have been playing so poorly and our playoff chances were in doubt, as well as locker room issues.

He didn't fire Carbo because Halak was winning games.

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Maybe he meant that he didn't like the fact Carbonneau came back with Price after Halak had done so well?

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Yeah.. cause Gainey wanted to be out of the playoffs.. and that could of happened the way Price was playing.

Gainey FIRED Carbo for the simple fact that we have been playing so poorly and our playoff chances were in doubt, as well as locker room issues.

He didn't fire Carbo because Halak was winning games.
that's not what i said. gainey said he would have done the things differently with the goaltenders. i offered my interpretation on this. i'm asking what's your ?

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Gainey said that the Habs have top drawer goaltending talent and that it's not fair for them to be facing so many shots and quality chances. I'm sure he wasn't a big fan of Carbo throwing the goalies under the bus after games we lost by only one goal despite being outshot two to one.

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Gainey said that the Habs have top drawer goaltending talent and that it's not fair for them to be facing so many shots and quality chances. I'm sure he wasn't a big fan of Carbo throwing the goalies under the bus after games we lost by only one goal despite being outshot two to one.
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Gainey said that the Habs have top drawer goaltending talent and that it's not fair for them to be facing so many shots and quality chances. I'm sure he wasn't a big fan of Carbo throwing the goalies under the bus after games we lost by only one goal despite being outshot two to one.
Agreed, I think this is more-so what his comments meant.

Carbo was always quick to blame our goaltending (even back in the fall) regardless if they were the reason we won the game.

I remember after the Vancouver game that Halak stole, Carbo said he was good but the team played great defensively.

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Halak is a BACK UP GOAILE... This is what his payed to do.. Back up for price when his injured or in a slump. Yes i understand that halaks mad, id be mad too.. but this is the nhl here, and halak is still is our back up goaile.

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Halak is a BACK UP GOAILE... This is what his payed to do.. Back up for price when his injured or in a slump. Yes i understand that halaks mad, id be mad too.. but this is the nhl here, and halak is still is our back up goaile.


So Halak is designated as a backup goalie even though he's:
a) in his first full season
b) dominated every minor level
c) the same career sv% as Price including a better one this year.

Right.

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and who played very well in his last two games? .. Halak well shine one day, he is a great goaile, just not for the montreal canadiens ..

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and who played very well in his last two games? .. Halak well shine one day, he is a great goaile, just not for the montreal canadiens ..
We'll see.

I love Price (have a jersey), but I do think that Halak has just as much potential as Price. Both goalies have dominated everywhere they've been. Both goalies are young and competitive.

However, I think what Price was praised for (being calm, cool, and collected) is more-so why Halak is a great a goalie. He doesn't let things bug him, where if Price lets in a bad goal, you can see it eat away at him.

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well, gainey confirmed he wouldn't have taken the same decisions carbo took about the goaltenders.

needless to say he was not happy to see halak getting so many games recently.
Funny I though its was about the fact he lets Price in net when the score was way up there

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So Halak is designated as a backup goalie even though he's:
a) in his first full season
b) dominated every minor level
c) the same career sv% as Price including a better one this year.

Right.
yes but he wasnt drafted 5th overall

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So Halak is designated as a backup goalie even though he's:
a) in his first full season
b) dominated every minor level
c) the same career sv% as Price including a better one this year.

Right.
still bitter about the Huet trade eh Cristobal?

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So Halak is designated as a backup goalie even though he's:
a) in his first full season
b) dominated every minor level
c) the same career sv% as Price including a better one this year.

Right.
part of the reason his career sv% is equal to price and its better this year is that as a backup goalie he faces easier competition.

This shouldn't be hard to understand.

Price when he is playing at his best > Halak at his best.

Price is bigger, takes up more of the net, has better rebound control, handles the puck better, is positionally better etc...

That doesn't mean Halak is a bad goalie, but Price at the top of his game is the better goalie.

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part of the reason his career sv% is equal to price and its better this year is that as a backup goalie he faces easier competition.

This shouldn't be hard to understand.

Price when he is playing at his best > Halak at his best.
Right..

You do realize that most of Halak's games aren't backup games.. they have been due to injury, right? You do know that, right? I mean, it's not that hard to understand, right? Right?



Also, if they were backup games, it's harder for backup goalies to get in a groove because they play so little. Look at life-time stats, they have both dominated everywhere they've played.

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Right..

You do realize that most of Halak's games aren't backup games.. they have been due to injury, right? You do know that, right? I mean, it's not that hard to understand, right? Right?



Also, if they were backup games, it's harder for backup goalies to get in a groove because they play so little. Look at life-time stats, they have both dominated everywhere they've played.
I never said Halak sucked... he's a very good goalie in his own right.

I just don't think they are equal.

Price in top form is better than Halak in top form.....

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by the way carey price was one of the best goailes b4 his injury, and belive me its not over, and he went through a slump, i dont blame him all the media pressure, being at the top of his game to being really bad, team not helping him , pressure to win the cup, at 21 years old. His very very strong cause it dident take him that long to get out of his slump. His back on his game... this being said, he can overcome alot. We need that in a goaile. And at the beggining of the season he was very calm. Even the best goaile of all times has been through a slump, we gave up on him, he went onto winning 2 standly cups. Theodore is with the caps now and they are doing amazing. Gose to say dont give up on your players too soon. Yes halak is good but we cannot forget that carey has won us some important games b4 his injury, just like halak did in his last few games, but heres a question .. whos stoled us more games this season. Thats what i thought

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