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03-10-2009, 06:18 PM
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Lundqvist close to setting new record

with one win, Henrik Lundqvist will be the first goalie in NHL history to win 30 games in each of his first four seasons.

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03-10-2009, 07:49 PM
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Not without the stupid shootout he wouldn't be.

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Not without the stupid shootout he wouldn't be.
And Martin Brodeur wouldn't be as close to Roy's record with it either....

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And Martin Brodeur wouldn't be as close to Roy's record with it either....
And Raycroft wouldn't have the Leafs single season win mark *barf*

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Can't just be happy for a guy, sad...

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Thats awesome I think. He is a great goalie and has earned his spot in the record books.

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Oh, I was thinking this was going to be about his leg pads.

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And Martin Brodeur wouldn't be as close to Roy's record with it either....
He'd still would have passed it, basically his injury made up for the time it'd take(which I still think would be much less)

However, Henrik getting this record is a bit debatable with the shootouts, especially since the Rangers have had a ton of shootout wins too.

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He'd still would have passed it, basically his injury made up for the time it'd take(which I still think would be much less)

However, Henrik getting this record is a bit debatable with the shootouts, especially since the Rangers have had a ton of shootout wins too.
Agreed, but at the same time, I have a hard time giving legitimacy to Brodeur's 48-win season as the "most-winningest-season-by-a-goalie-ever"

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03-10-2009, 09:23 PM
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Good job Henrik. My favourite goalie in the game today.

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new nhl = wipe the record books clean.none of them count anymore.and none of them mean anything.

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Let's hope he starts feeling better so he can get the W

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And Martin Brodeur wouldn't be as close to Roy's record with it either....
GongShow, you are one of many well-informed and objective NYR fans on this board...which is why it's surprising to read you fall back on the Brodeur obsesssion that is characteristic of the more inane NYR fans.

What does Martin Brodeur have to do with any of this? You come here pimping for the King, another poster chooses to not join in the adulation...and you bring up Brodeur out of nowhere?

Clinical!

Seriously though, when Lundqvist achieves his record, this is one fan who will applaud it. For contrary to HF myth, NHL goalies are paid first and last to help their teams WIN GAMES. Lundqvist does just that, often.

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For contrary to HF myth, NHL goalies are paid first and last to help their teams WIN GAMES. Lundqvist does just that, often.
That's more than a bit of a red herring here, in the History subforum, where every one of the regulars understands the difference between the means (stopping the puck) and the end (winning games). Implying that we don't understand the difference might make you feel good personally, but it doesn't make it true.

Kudos to Lundqvist on the pending record - certainly rules may change in the NHL, but they've been changing for nearly a century and they're not going to stop changing now.

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That's more than a bit of a red herring here, in the History subforum, where every one of the regulars understands the difference between the means (stopping the puck) and the end (winning games). Implying that we don't understand the difference might make you feel good personally, but it doesn't make it true.
Care for me to direct you to the exact post (within the last few days at the beginning of a long thread here), that declares just that? Written by a regular here?

Just let me know and I'll PM it to you, to avoid calling anyone out publicly.

I do not need this little board to "feel good", Dr.

Speak for yourself.

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I'd love to see it - go ahead and post it here, or PM it to me. My guess is that there's context involved, but if there isn't, then I'll stand corrected. I've been wrong before - heck, I'm wrong lots of times.

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I'd love to see it - go ahead and post it here, or PM it to me. My guess is that there's context involved, but if there isn't, then I'll stand corrected. I've been wrong before - heck, I'm wrong lots of times.
Not as wrong as I am. I hold the board record for career defeats!

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Although my guess is that the poster you referenced was engaging in more than a bit of hyperbole, I'll stand corrected (actually, I'll sit corrected). My guess is that he said what he said primarily to get a reaction - not that any of us have ever done that.

Anyhow, I'll concede the point that there are some knuckleheads in this subforum, and hopefully you'll concede the point that the "knucklehead ratio" is much lower here than in the other forums.

Back to the topic at hand!

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He'd still would have passed it, basically his injury made up for the time it'd take(which I still think would be much less)

However, Henrik getting this record is a bit debatable with the shootouts, especially since the Rangers have had a ton of shootout wins too.
The Devils are either right in front of, or right behind the Rangers when it comes to shootout wins. I also doubt you were complaining about shootout wins when Brodeur set the single season wins record.

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the game changes guys, the NHL is completely different then it was 15, 30, 45 years ago. Can't really compare the eras anyway, so why bother whining about records?

congrats to lundqvist
the guy is legit

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Congrats to Lundy. Surprised it's never been done before though.

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Congrats to Lundy. Surprised it's never been done before though.
Most goalies don't play that many games their first season in the NHL. Instead, they are slowly worked into the league. Sawchuk and Dryden would have done it, but they each played a couple of games before becoming NHL regulars.

Lundqvist had two things going for him not yet mentioned:

1) He broke into the league the season after the lockout, so he had an extra year of development outside the NHL, and NHL teams were an extra year removed from their last set rosters.

2) More importantly, his team's starter crapped the bed in his first season. He was slated to be the backup in his first season in the NHL, but badly outplayed Kevin Weekes, until the Rangers were first to turn to Lundqvist.

Still, an impressive mark and great start to a career.

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03-11-2009, 02:29 AM
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Not without the stupid shootout he wouldn't be.
And at some point people were saying, 'he only got the scoring record because they reduced the size of goalie pads and started allowing forward passes.' I'm not a fan of the shootout. But rule changes have been going on since the inception of the league. Sometimes they help records fall and sometimes they help records stand.

No matter how you cut it, Lundqvist has had an excellent start to his career. The 30 GMs seem to feel that way, at least ... they voted him a Vezina finalist in each of his first three seasons. And every goalie in the league had the same shootouts available to them in that time frame.

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Although my guess is that the poster you referenced was engaging in more than a bit of hyperbole, I'll stand corrected (actually, I'll sit corrected). My guess is that he said what he said primarily to get a reaction - not that any of us have ever done that.

Anyhow, I'll concede the point that there are some knuckleheads in this subforum, and hopefully you'll concede the point that the "knucklehead ratio" is much lower here than in the other forums.

Back to the topic at hand!
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And Martin Brodeur wouldn't be as close to Roy's record with it either....
oh absolutely by next season he would be. The shootout has been around for 4 years? Lets say at MOST, he got 8 wins each season directly as a result of the shootout (keep in mind, without the shootout teams would be playing differently in OT). 32 wins in a season? I think so.

Brodeur came close, but only managed 27 in his first regular season. Followed up by the shortened 94-95 season.

And not take away from this, as Lundqvist earned it. The game has changed, as it always does. He's a very good goalie, poised for a great future.

EDIT. Brodeuer has a total of 27 SO wins.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/shootoutstats...ieCareerTotals

Henrik has 26 SO wins


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