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03-12-2009, 03:51 PM
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So I have been irate about the current cap situation that we are ultimately doomed to fall under. And that got me to thinking. Is it time for a guy like Briere, with a contract of his caliber, to take a paycut?

Here me out. We are knee deep with the cap situation already and on the cusp of going over. Briere has been injured most of the season. Even though he is on the IR most of the time, and the salary doesnt affect our cap, when he does play, he does not normally contribute as his price tag claims. He is very good on the PP, but thats about the most consistent points you will get out of him.

Getting paid 8 mil a year, your expectations for the team suddenly sky rocket, and Briere has not been able to stay healthy enough for the Flyers to pay him 8 mil, in my personal opinion. Timonen will be getting 8 mil next year as well and he damn right deserves ever penny of it. Briere however does not.

Hell, even Crosby took a paycut so the Pens could resign other players.

I think its time that Holmgren have a bit of a talk with Danny regarding the Flyers cap situation and his contract.

I would be OK if Briere was signed for somewhere along of the lines of 6 mil.

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03-12-2009, 03:56 PM
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So I have been irate about the current cap situation that we are ultimately doomed to fall under. And that got me to thinking. Is it time for a guy like Briere, with a contract of his caliber, to take a paycut?

Here me out. We are knee deep with the cap situation already and on the cusp of going over. Briere has been injured most of the season. Even though he is on the IR most of the time, and the salary doesnt affect our cap, when he does play, he does not normally contribute as his price tag claims. He is very good on the PP, but thats about the most consistent points you will get out of him.

Getting paid 8 mil a year, your expectations for the team suddenly sky rocket, and Briere has not been able to stay healthy enough for the Flyers to pay him 8 mil, in my personal opinion. Timonen will be getting 8 mil next year as well and he damn right deserves ever penny of it. Briere however does not.

Hell, even Crosby took a paycut so the Pens could resign other players.

I think its time that Holmgren have a bit of a talk with Danny regarding the Flyers cap situation and his contract.

I would be OK if Briere was signed for somewhere along of the lines of 6 mil.

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Contracts are guaranteed, they aren't negotiable. Once a contract is signed it can't be changed. Even if he would take a paycut, it isn't within the rules.

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03-12-2009, 03:58 PM
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So I have been irate about the current cap situation that we are ultimately doomed to fall under. And that got me to thinking. Is it time for a guy like Briere, with a contract of his caliber, to take a paycut?

Here me out. We are knee deep with the cap situation already and on the cusp of going over. Briere has been injured most of the season. Even though he is on the IR most of the time, and the salary doesnt affect our cap, when he does play, he does not normally contribute as his price tag claims. He is very good on the PP, but thats about the most consistent points you will get out of him.

Getting paid 8 mil a year, your expectations for the team suddenly sky rocket, and Briere has not been able to stay healthy enough for the Flyers to pay him 8 mil, in my personal opinion. Timonen will be getting 8 mil next year as well and he damn right deserves ever penny of it. Briere however does not.

Hell, even Crosby took a paycut so the Pens could resign other players.

I think its time that Holmgren have a bit of a talk with Danny regarding the Flyers cap situation and his contract.

I would be OK if Briere was signed for somewhere along of the lines of 6 mil.

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At a time like this you must ask yourself....If you signed briere's contract, why would you take a paycut? This is an unnecessary thread.

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03-12-2009, 03:59 PM
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At a time like this you must ask yourself....If you signed briere's contract, why would you take a paycut? This is an unnecessary thread.
unnecessary and impossible

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I would be OK if Briere was signed for somewhere along of the lines of 6 mil.
you realize he is, right? people need to realize that a players yearly salary isnt what's important. it's their cap hit that counts. Briere's cap hit is $6.5m

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So I have been irate about the current cap situation that we are ultimately doomed to fall under. And that got me to thinking. Is it time for a guy like Briere, with a contract of his caliber, to take a paycut?

Here me out. We are knee deep with the cap situation already and on the cusp of going over. Briere has been injured most of the season. Even though he is on the IR most of the time, and the salary doesnt affect our cap, when he does play, he does not normally contribute as his price tag claims. He is very good on the PP, but thats about the most consistent points you will get out of him.

Getting paid 8 mil a year, your expectations for the team suddenly sky rocket, and Briere has not been able to stay healthy enough for the Flyers to pay him 8 mil, in my personal opinion. Timonen will be getting 8 mil next year as well and he damn right deserves ever penny of it. Briere however does not.

Hell, even Crosby took a paycut so the Pens could resign other players.

I think its time that Holmgren have a bit of a talk with Danny regarding the Flyers cap situation and his contract.

I would be OK if Briere was signed for somewhere along of the lines of 6 mil.

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But he is signed for somewhere around 6 million. He is signed for 6.5 million a year, thats all that counts against the cap. People need to understand that although hes making 8 mil this year and next, that doesnt mean thats what counts against our cap. The last 2 years of his contract he gets 3 million and then just 2 million, so just 5 million during the last 2 years of his contract. It all averages out, briere's 8 million is NOT what counts against the cap. And how did crosby take a pay cut? Hes the 2nd highest paid player in the NHL this year and his cap his is what 8.5 million? I believe hes the 2nd or 3rd highest cap hit in the league behind just Ovechkin and Malkin next year.

Briere isnt going to give back some money. Correct me if im wrong someone but even if he said ok Ill take off some money it wouldnt just come off of next years cap hit, it would be spread out throught the remaining 6 years of his contract. So to even get 1 million added to the cap next year Briere would have to agree to give back 6 million dollars...can you see him or anyone for that matter doing that?

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...Ignorance overload.

On so many levels.

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Briere will get paid, son.

He prob couldn't care less. The Flyers can't even waive him.

Man I hate Briere's contract.

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and his cap hit is only 6.5 the 8 mil doesnt matter

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If you haven't gotten it already, you can't renegotiate contracts like that. And I'd rather be paying Briere MORE right now, so he is an attractive option near the end of his contract cause his salary will be lower.

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If you haven't gotten it already, you can't renegotiate contracts like that. And I'd rather be paying Briere MORE right now, so he is an attractive option near the end of his contract cause his salary will be lower.
Briere will never be an attractive option.


Not cuz he looks like a gremlin, but he has an NMC.

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Briere will never be an attractive option.


Not cuz he looks like a gremlin, but he has an NMC.
What about if he is near the end of his contract, and he's not performing up to par, and we all start booing the hell out of him (it happened last year in his FIRST year)...I think he might have slightly more motivation to waive. I think if Holmgren really needed to, he could convince him to waive. There really is no telling what will happen 4 years from now.

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Briere will never be an attractive option.


Not cuz he looks like a gremlin, but he has an NMC.


Holmgren needs a good swift kick in the balls the next time one of these is offered. This is the greatest city in the world to play hockey.

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Brutal.

It isn't Briere's fault. It's managements fault, if there is even a "fault" here.

If Briere was playing all year he'd be between 1st and 3rd in points on this team and his name wouldn't come up every other thread. Lets shat on his contract cause he has 9 points

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If you haven't gotten it already, you can't renegotiate contracts like that. And I'd rather be paying Briere MORE right now, so he is an attractive option near the end of his contract cause his salary will be lower.
I thought that nhl contracts stayed the same every season on the cap? Like even if he is making 8.5 right now or whatever he will only cost 6.5 against the cap. And if he is making 4.5 at the end of the deal he will still be 6.5 against the cap. I could be wrong though.

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I thought that nhl contracts stayed the same every season on the cap? Like even if he is making 8.5 right now or whatever he will only cost 6.5 against the cap. And if he is making 4.5 at the end of the deal he will still be 6.5 against the cap. I could be wrong though.
Yeah but if your atlanta or some other small market you just dont have the money to even have a roster up near the cap roof so they can easily add a player with a 6.5 million dollar cap hit for his last 2 years but only have to pay him 3 million and the 2 million. So yes the 6.5 million dollar cap hit will effect them but they will only have to pay him 5 million total for the last 2 years and since they are like 10 million under the cap anyway, it wont hurt them to add him.

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Brutal.

It isn't Briere's fault. It's managements fault, if there is even a "fault" here.

If Briere was playing all year he'd be between 1st and 3rd in points on this team and his name wouldn't come up every other thread. Lets shat on his contract cause he has 9 points



I highly doubt that Briere would be 1 or 2 in points on this team right now but you're right....the contract is nobody's fault. I'll always hate NTC's though.

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Yeah but if your atlanta or some other small market you just dont have the money to even have a roster up near the cap roof so they can easily add a player with a 6.5 million dollar cap hit for his last 2 years but only have to pay him 3 million and the 2 million. So yes the 6.5 million dollar cap hit will effect them but they will only have to pay him 5 million total for the last 2 years and since they are like 10 million under the cap anyway, it wont hurt them to add him.
Ok thanks, I understand it now

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Contracts are guaranteed, they aren't negotiable. Once a contract is signed it can't be changed. Even if he would take a paycut, it isn't within the rules.
Which is reason 4355607698858746754 why the NFL salary cap beats this one.

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Which is reason 4355607698858746754 why the NFL salary cap beats this one.
Not the NHLPA's fault that the NFLPA can't negotiate.

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Not the NHLPA's fault that the NFLPA can't negotiate.
I don't like this sentence because there are two acronyms in it.

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This will never stop will it?

Worst thing is most people complain without having ANY of the facts straight, wake the **** up people... Time to look for other forums...

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I highly doubt that Briere would be 1 or 2 in points on this team right now but you're right....the contract is nobody's fault. I'll always hate NTC's though.
he's a PPG player the last 3 seasons and had 9 points in 9 games before the injury. there is no reason to think he wouldnt have been right there.

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This will never stop will it?

Worst thing is most people complain without having ANY of the facts straight, wake the **** up people... Time to look for other forums...
Nooooo, your much too valuable to the HF community. I'm sure you will be missed...maybe not.

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and his cap hit is only 6.5 the 8 mil doesnt matter
only 6.5
LOL
terrible ****in contract. 6 more years after this and Holmer's favorite gift the NTC to boot.
awesome
lets hope he comes to camp much better conditioned and doesnt have any "lower body issues" after next season.


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