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03-22-2009, 04:51 PM
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So please explain this rule for me...

...Why cant north american prospects play in AHL until they're 20 while euros can play in AHL at the age of 18? that's pretty odd.

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...Why cant north american prospects play in AHL until they're 20 while euros can play in AHL at the age of 18? that's pretty odd.
So more talent isn't poached from the CHL. It's an agreement they have with that league so their star players are left intact. It's a much better developmental league that way then if it were to be made up of mostly 16 and 17 year olds. I do feel in some cases younger guys should be allowed to play in the ahl. Like with Brandon Sutter this year there was nothing left for him to learn in Red Deer but he wasn't getting a lot of ice time in Carolina. Would've been perfect to send him to Albany but they couldn't do that.

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...Why cant north american prospects play in AHL until they're 20 while euros can play in AHL at the age of 18? that's pretty odd.
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=417096

Players that played in the NCAA can play in the AHL before the age of 20.

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its a poaching agreement between the AHL and the CHL. Simple as that.

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Not all North Americans fall under the "under 20" rule, only those who were drafted out of the CHL (WHL, OHL, QMJHL). Just like Euros, players drafted out of college, HS, USHL, NAHL, or Canadian Jr A. can play in the AHL as soon as age 18.

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Its just another silly rule.

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03-23-2009, 08:43 PM
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Seems a bit unfair, maybe they should give each team one exception a year, so that one prospect can make the jump but not too much talent is lost. The Oilers with Eberle next year for example, I don't see much point in him playing in juniors but he probably won't make the big club, rock and a hard place.

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So old men can make millions on the backs of teenagers being paid $50/week.

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So old men can make millions on the backs of teenagers being paid $50/week.
What exactly do you mean by this?

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I think they should allow first-round picks to play in the AHL right away.

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What exactly do you mean by this?
Junior Hockey is profitable in Canada. If star players were allowed to go to the AHL and continue their development against better compitition then it would bring less fans into the CHL buildinds to watch said players. Most junior teams are owned by older males, and junior hockey players are payed little more then a standard subsistance rate, even though they are the produced that is making the money.

Kinda like a sweat shop, except these kids are treated like Gods and are coddled by everyone, with puck bunnies drooling all over them.

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Junior Hockey is profitable in Canada. If star players were allowed to go to the AHL and continue their development against better compitition then it would bring less fans into the CHL buildinds to watch said players. Most junior teams are owned by older males, and junior hockey players are payed little more then a standard subsistance rate, even though they are the produced that is making the money.

Kinda like a sweat shop, except these kids are treated like Gods and are coddled by everyone, with puck bunnies drooling all over them.
Well it may be profitable, but it's not millions worth at all.

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Can anyone explain to me how Nick Foligno played in the AHL last season?

He was drafted out of the OHL and 19 when he made the Sens. He spent some time in the AHL despite not being 20. Why can't other teams do this, say the Oilers with Eberle?

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Can anyone explain to me how Nick Foligno played in the AHL last season?

He was drafted out of the OHL and 19 when he made the Sens. He spent some time in the AHL despite not being 20. Why can't other teams do this, say the Oilers with Eberle?
Wouldn't Foligno have been 20 last season? He was born in 87 and drafted in 2006. And/or maybe his OHL team dropped his rights when he played the first howevermany months of the season in the NHL.

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It's an AHL-CHL agreement that simply boils down to this:

A player from the CHL cannot play in the AHL unless:

a.) he is 20 years of age or older (at which point junior eligibility is usually exhausted)
b.) he has accrued four or more seasons (I believe 25+ games) in the OHL, WHL, or LHJMQ. This is what kept Hickey from playing in the AHL this year.

Everyone else is eligible for the AHL when they turn 18.


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03-24-2009, 03:14 AM
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Wouldn't Foligno have been 20 last season? He was born in 87 and drafted in 2006. And/or maybe his OHL team dropped his rights when he played the first howevermany months of the season in the NHL.
Foligno was 19 at the start of the season, but turned 20 before a certain date (12/31?) that made him eligible for the AHL. Same thing this year with Nick Spaling and Mark Santorelli from Nashville.

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03-24-2009, 11:58 AM
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Junior Hockey is profitable in Canada. If star players were allowed to go to the AHL and continue their development against better compitition then it would bring less fans into the CHL buildinds to watch said players. Most junior teams are owned by older males, and junior hockey players are payed little more then a standard subsistance rate, even though they are the produced that is making the money.

Kinda like a sweat shop, except these kids are treated like Gods and are coddled by everyone, with puck bunnies drooling all over them.
I hope the sarcastic face applies to the part about subsistance. Outside of the one-for-one scholarships, teams also buy vehicles, apartments and provide "extra" spending money for players. And if the situation really is that bad, I don't see too many players turning their back and playing elsewhere.

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