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Evgeny Grachev vs. Mikhail Stefanovich

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03-08-2009, 05:45 PM
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Evgeny Grachev vs. Mikhail Stefanovich

Who do you think will have the better career and whos do you think has the better potential?

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Grachev, absolute steal.

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03-08-2009, 05:55 PM
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Grachev: 38 goals, 32 assists, 70 points in 56 games played (prorated: 56 goals, 47 assists, 103 points in 82 games played)

Stefanovich: 43 goals, 26 assists, 69 points in 52 games played (prorated: 68 goals, 41 assists, 109 points in 82 games played)

Both are fantastic players having great breakout seasons. Grachev has a better supporting cast but Stefanovich is 3 months older.

Really interesting.

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They're both really good...

I've gotta go with Stefanovich though, tearing up the Q and picked by the Leafs

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Remember, the QMJHL is a tad bit lower scoring league nowadays compared to the OHL goal totals. I would say Stefanovich has more offensive potential and talent, but who is more ready to play in the NHL next season? And who will likely be a NHL'er? Evgeny Grachev because of the other intangibles he brings with his game. Will be interesting to see how these guys do when they become pro in the AHL/NHL.

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I wouldn't move Grachev for Stefanovich and the Leaf's 2nd round pick.

Grachev quite easily, right now.

His combination of size and strength and speed (for a big man) easily puts him over the top.

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I wouldn't move Grachev for Stefanovich and the Leaf's 2nd round pick.

Grachev quite easily, right now.

His combination of size and strength and speed (for a big man) easily puts him over the top.
The difference between Grachev and Stefanovich is exactly 1 inch.

And Stefanovich also skates very well.

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Grachev: 38 goals, 32 assists, 70 points in 56 games played (prorated: 56 goals, 47 assists, 103 points in 82 games played)

Stefanovich: 43 goals, 26 assists, 69 points in 52 games played (prorated: 68 goals, 41 assists, 109 points in 82 games played)

Both are fantastic players having great breakout seasons. Grachev has a better supporting cast but Stefanovich is 3 months older.

Really interesting.
This is also only Grachev's first year in the O. As opposed to Stefanovich's 2nd year in the Q.

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i like gratchev for a better career and better potential based on what i have seen

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This is also only Grachev's first year in the O. As opposed to Stefanovich's 2nd year in the Q.
He also has much, much better linemates.

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He also has much, much better linemates.
Yeah, but he doesn't play in a league where people put up a billion points a year.

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He also has much, much better linemates.
He showed in the WJC that he can do it all by himself, as well, so that point is fairly moot. He really broke into the spotlight at the WJC with his performance.

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He showed in the WJC that he can do it all by himself, as well, so that point is fairly moot. He really broke into the spotlight at the WJC with his performance.
Right, so it means that his teammates aren't carrying him.

But the point isn't moot because Zetterberg playing with Wade Belak still scores less than Zetterberg playing with Pavel Datsyuk.

It just means the stats need to be taken with a grain of salt.

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Stefanovich is much hotter. Therefore, he wins.

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Yeah, but he doesn't play in a league where people put up a billion points a year.
You do realize the OHL has outscored the Q over the last few seasons, including this season...

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You do realize the OHL has outscored the Q over the last few seasons, including this season...

Has it really? All i know is the leading scorer in the Q has 120 points and they got 3 guys over 100. Tavares is probably the only player in the O who will break the 100 point mark. Six guys in the Q have 40 goals or more as opposed to 4 in the O.

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You do realize the OHL has outscored the Q over the last few seasons, including this season...
It's just too bad that the people in arguement probably have not seen Stefanovich play at all .......

Also for the person that said Mikhail is "hot," well he has been "hot" since December, and right now he is still "hot" in March

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Has it really? All i know is the leading scorer in the Q has 120 points and they got 3 guys over 100. Tavares is probably the only player in the O who will break the 100 point mark. Six guys in the Q have 40 goals or more as opposed to 4 in the O.
The OHL averages more goals per game then the QMJHL or the WHL

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It's just too bad that the people in arguement probably have not seen ________ play at all
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Who do you think will have the better career and whos do you think has the better potential?
Why isn't any posters asking you what your thoughts are like they do me LOL !!

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So in a total of 708 WHL games an average of 6.5 goals are scored per game (not per team but a combined # of goals by all of the teams in a game).
In a total of 554 QMJHL games an average of 6.79 goals are scored per game (not per team but a combined # of goals by all of the teams in a game).
In a total of 608 OHL games an average of 6.87 goals are scored per game (not per team but a combined # of goals by all of the teams in a game).

So in terms of the most offensive Canadian junior leagues:
1. OHL.
2. QMJHL.
3. WHL.
Given this post was written about 8 days ago

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Has it really? All i know is the leading scorer in the Q has 120 points and they got 3 guys over 100. Tavares is probably the only player in the O who will break the 100 point mark. Six guys in the Q have 40 goals or more as opposed to 4 in the O.
That's probably because of the WJC. Prorate guys like Hodgson, Tangradi, Ellis, etc another 10 or so games each and you'll see a big difference.

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That's probably because of the WJC. Prorate guys like Hodgson, Tangradi, Ellis, etc another 10 or so games each and you'll see a big difference.

So you're admitting that there are more quality players in the O, which in turn means that the quality of play in that league is better than right?


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