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03-13-2009, 08:22 PM
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If they let Kovy go they sure as hell better find someone to replace him, because from what I say last night that guy isn't on the team right now.

Luckily I think Bob knows how important Kovy is to the Habs offense and I expect him to be back next season.
If Kovalev played last night against the Isles............

The Habs win

Kovy loves Bob... this will be an exciting season finish

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03-13-2009, 09:18 PM
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Tanguay>Kovalev
As good as Tanguay is at setting up plays, he's never been the go to guy nor will he ever be.

Although he's only done it once, Kovy is a 40G+ scorer with the stickhandling skills of a superstar.

Tanguay is a playmaker and isn't as spectacular. We're going to need to replace Kovalev with a bonafide star.

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03-13-2009, 09:28 PM
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Tanguay>Kovalev
You sir are delusional.Tanguay has nowhere near the talent that Kovalev does.

I swear he must have slept with a family member of yours for the hatred you show. (Same goes for Asterix)

He will be back and you guys can please follow another team.

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03-13-2009, 09:32 PM
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I have nothing against Kovy leaving, but we absolutely have to replace him if we let him go, and no, keeping Tanguay does not count as replacing Kovalev.

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03-13-2009, 09:33 PM
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Tell me who the backup plan for Kovalev is?
Our leading scorer? A.Kost

Give him more time to blossom into the dynamic goal scorer he can be. Kovalev is far from irreplacible.

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03-13-2009, 09:34 PM
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without kovalev we have no real impact player, just a lot of guys playing supporting roles. so we have to re-sign him unless we get lecavalier.

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03-13-2009, 09:37 PM
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Our leading scorer? A.Kost

Give him more time to blossom into the dynamic goal scorer he can be. Kovalev is far from irreplacible.
We don't just need 1. A.Kost won't score 50Goals and it's still not certain that he'll net 30ish for sure next year.

Regardless of his inconsistency, Kovalev is a bonafide star throughout the league. If we lose a player of his stature, we'll need another star. A consistent one.

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03-13-2009, 09:40 PM
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if kovalev doesnt sign here then we need a big trade or a nice ufa pickup(doubtful). Assuming koivu and tanguay re-sign here (i hope!!) we'll still need another top-end talent to replace kovy, we saw yesterday that kost-koivu-tanguay is a great line but after that players are too young to carry the offence

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03-13-2009, 09:52 PM
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Im a fan of Kovalev but i dont know if he should stay next year. I know we are a better team with him (it really showed yesterday that without Kovalev, the team lacks talent), but maybe its time to try something else, a new spirit.

I wouldnt be mad if he comes back though.

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03-13-2009, 10:39 PM
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Can you imagine if we manage to acquire a star player (say Lecavalier) *and* sign Kovalev.

He wouldn't be the go-to guy now and wouldn't feel so much pressure. He'll, he might even be motivated to outperform the star! I think if we can be in position to have a guy like Kovalev as a secondary scorer on this team then we're in serious business.

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03-13-2009, 10:56 PM
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Andrei a leader

The only future leaders I see are Komi, Higgy, Gorges and maybe... Plekanec.
It's his second full season in the NHL, oh my god he didn't break 30 goal mark yet?! What a bust!

Give him time like Jeff Carter, then you can shred him apart.


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03-13-2009, 11:05 PM
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I don't understand "fans" like you who want us to lose our best players all the time.
The greats are either rolling their eyes or rolling over in their graves.

Now I don't mind Kovalev back but just in at a reduced salary and role. The same applies for Koivu. Ideally both these guys should be on your second lines.

I won't shed any tears if he doesn't resign because I personally believe this team needs a changing of the guard. Its been too much of the same for the last 15 years. I would prefer heading towards a more Western Conference way of building a team. I am tired of soft, perimeter and highly inconsistent players.

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03-13-2009, 11:09 PM
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We don't just need 1. A.Kost won't score 50Goals and it's still not certain that he'll net 30ish for sure next year.

Regardless of his inconsistency, Kovalev is a bonafide star throughout the league. If we lose a player of his stature, we'll need another star. A consistent one.
Obviously we are going to use his 4 million (or whatever amount he makes) to sign another winger to replace him. He has scored 16 goals, lets not blow his contribution out of proportion.

A.Kost could very reasonably score over 30 goals consistently with more icetime and better line mates for the length of a whole season. The team is better off without him, I would rather have a player who was 1/2 as good that showed up every night than a player like Kovy who take weeks off at a time.

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03-13-2009, 11:17 PM
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People keep saying he has sooo much skill, yet what use is that skill if he's highly inconsistant? People seem to want a star just for the sake of having one.
Yup, star talent yet usually second line production or mediocre first line production.

Was it the game versus Colorado that their bench said "Kovalev doesn't want to compete tonight." If Pierre heard that, I am sure there were a few players on the Canadiens bench that heard that. Comments like that make me cringe because this is your supposed go to guy.

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03-13-2009, 11:34 PM
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i saw the Habs traded Turgeon because they thought that Koivu was going to be as good . Than they traded Damphousse , because they thought that Koivu was more important for the team . They didn't try to re-sign Recchi , because they wanted to keep the money for Koivu , and than i saw the Habs traded Ribeiro , because they thought Koivu was the best one betwen the two .

And now , you want the Habs to re-sign Koivu instead of Kovalev ...

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03-13-2009, 11:51 PM
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Kovalev has more talent and skills than Andrei Kostitsyn will ever have. Kovalev is a cancer? He doesn't hang around with ****ing mobster idiots. He has a reputation to stay on the ice longer than anyone else at practice. He trains like a madman in the off season so he can play huge ice time.

Only a complete bonehead wouldn't re-sign Kovalev. Kovalev is a superstar at a discount. He can play excellent on even strength, penalty kill and is absolutely stunning on the power play. Kovalev has a heavy shot, sets up his linemates a lot and dekes players like no other.


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03-14-2009, 12:07 AM
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He doesn't hang around with ****ing mobster idiots

I stopped reading.

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03-14-2009, 12:10 AM
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I can't believe people want Andrei Kostitsyn as a go to guy starting next year, yet people rag on Kovalev for being inconsistent. Andrei K is just as inconsistent, and no where near ready to be a go-to guy at this point. If Andrei Kostitsyn is considered our best offensive weapon next season, we're in major trouble.

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03-14-2009, 12:10 AM
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You sir are delusional.Tanguay has nowhere near the talent that Kovalev does.
There lies the problem right there. People hang on to the bleep hope that he'll show flashes of his undeniable great talent. The problem is that he doesn't use it nearly often and he's so moody that he brings an entire team down when HE doesn't feel like pulling his own weight. Enough of that crap as it's time to put a TEAM together instead of a group of INDIVIDUALS.

Tanguay is a team player, therefore I do agree that Tanguay > Kovalev.

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03-14-2009, 12:10 AM
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This team has to rebuild ontop of what they have. They don't have enough players that are good enough to take them to the top, and that is why we fail. Rebuild another year or two and develop your players the right way.

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03-14-2009, 12:16 AM
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Tanguay>Kovalev
All the complaints about Kovalev

- he's a floater
- he's soft
- he gives the puck away too much...

All of these apply more to Tanguay than to Kovalev IMO.

Tanguay is good as a second option IMO... but I've never seen him prove that he can be the elite scorer on his team. I think he's a good complimentary piece, but he's not the game breaker Kovalev is.

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03-14-2009, 12:34 AM
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All the complaints about Kovalev

- he's a floater
- he's soft
- he gives the puck away too much...

All of these apply more to Tanguay than to Kovalev IMO.


 KovalevTanguay
Hits/game0.740.73
Giveaway/game0.80.28

Tanguay floater?

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Hits/game0.740.73
Giveaway/game0.80.28

Tanguay floater?
STATS can show anything you want them to show.

Watching the games shows me that Tanguay is a perimeter player... he doesn't go to the net... he shies away from contact... he never cuts to the middle. He's not a guy who is gonna lead a team's offence until he starts playing in the harder areas of the ice. Until then he's destined to be a complimentary player to a real talent like Sakic or Iginla.

If he's expected to be your go to guy... good luck when the going gets tough.

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 KovalevTanguay
Hits/game0.740.73
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Tanguay floater?
Tanguay doesnt float at all, he avoids traffic and is made of glass.

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03-14-2009, 12:54 AM
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We will trade for Lecavalier at the draft day...

Tanguay Lecavalier Latendresse

A.Perezhogin Plekanec A.Kost

Higgins Koivu MaxPac

Lapierre Chipcura Stewart

Markov Komisarek

Hamrlik Subban

Weber OByrne

To Tampa S.Kost + Dago + Gorges + Maxwell + Halak

To Mtl: Lecavalier

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