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03-26-2009, 06:05 AM
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NHL.com article on Mattias Ohlund

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=4...id=DL|NHL|Home

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To Vancouver Canucks defenseman Mattias Ohlund, the game has never been more fun. That's quite the statement considering Ohlund first broke into the NHL over a decade ago.

That's certainly music to the ears of every Canucks fan when you consider the 32-year-old Swede happens to be the longest-tenured player on the Vancouver roster this season.

"Physically, it gets tougher each season, but I'm having more fun today than I did when I was younger," Ohlund told NHL.com. "I feel healthy now, but over the course of the last 10 years I've had my share of injuries and realize that's all a part of the game. Mentally, though, I'm having a lot more fun out there."
It's good to hear, from our longest serving active Canuck. I bet he resigns here.

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It's good to hear, from our longest serving active Canuck. I bet he resigns here.
I would be pretty shocked if he resigns here. Let's face it the guy can cash in big time on the free agent market and it makes no sense what so ever for the Canucks to get into any bidding war for his services.

The best case scenario for us will be that he goes and plays 3 or 4 years elsewhere and then comes back to Vancouver and plays out his career as a bottom pairing guy with an affordable contract.

Some team out there is more than likely going to give Ohlund a 4 year deal worth close to 20 million dollars and good for him if he can get it.

Hopefully he goes to where he can get the big bucks and then comes back to retire as a Canuck.

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He's going to get an offer from someone that he can't refuse. He's going to get paid like a #2 when he's a #4 on a good blueline. Maybe he'll go join Jovo in Phoenix?

Hopefully we can go on a nice deep run and he has a great playoff to make up for a mediocre season by his standards.

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The best case scenario for us will be that he goes and plays 3 or 4 years elsewhere and then comes back to Vancouver and plays out his career as a bottom pairing guy with an affordable contract.
I'd agree. I hope he gets big money, because he'd probably stay if it were up to him. I just hope his next contract doesn't make people hate him like they do Redden.

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It's going to be interesting to see how the market for Mattias shapes up this summer. He's not the premiere guy out there (Bouwmeester and Komisarek are the cream of the crop right now, and depending on needs you could make good cases for other players) and with all of the cap uncertainty surrounding 2010/11, teams in all likelyhood will be loath to ante up large amounts of money on long term deals for older non-core players. The offense has dried up a bit for Ohlund this year, and with puck moving defensemen being all the rage these days he may be hard pressed to find a team that is both competitive and willing to ante up big dollars on a contract. In the past it has been the guys with offensive upside like Redden, Rozsival, Hainsey, etc. that have commanded the exorbitant contracts and the 20 point defensive defensemen have been held to contracts for <$4 million.

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I'll be mildly shocked if he doesn't end up in Toronto (yes, even with Kaberle/Kubina). As for a contract, I could see between $4 and $4.5 per season for four or five.

There are other teams that need a top-four guy as well with cap space to spend (Tampa if they move some forwards out, Atlanta, and so on).

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Yeah, I wasn't saying there wasn't going to be a market for him, but I do think if he wants to get paid he's going to have a hard time finding a competitive team that will ante up the cash and so it may end up being an either/or situation (like Toronto or Atlanta or Tampa).

He's always struck me as a competitive guy who wants to win and I have a hard time seeing him going to a team that will in all likelihood spend a couple years at the bottom before they challenge for the playoffs again. There are a couple teams that will have a hole on defense and some cap space like Calgary and Philadelphia but I'm not sure that he fits the mold of the type of defenseman they'd be looking for.

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I hope he cashes in on a $5M + long-term contract with some other team...I really do.

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How magnanimous of you.

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If the Canuicks have a long run in the playoffs and come close to the finals, and if Gillis offers Ohlund a contract that is close to what he can get from a weaker team - Toronto - then I can see Ohlund coming back next season. He's a very competitive guy and he now has roots in Vancouver. If it's even close, he may be back. If someone offers him $ 5 m over 3 or 4 year then good for him. He's a great guy and has been likely the best Canuck D man of all time so I wish him well.

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It's getting harder to ignore the loss of foot speed and the resulting penalties he's taking. I'm all for loyalty, but in the upcoming cap environment giving a top-dollar, long-term deal to a guy who's clearly declining is a bad, bad idea. If he doesn't take a deep discount and/or agree to a shorter deal, let Burke use his cap space on him.

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It's getting harder to ignore the loss of foot speed and the resulting penalties he's taking. I'm all for loyalty, but in the upcoming cap environment giving a top-dollar, long-term deal to a guy who's clearly declining is a bad, bad idea. If he doesn't take a deep discount and/or agree to a shorter deal, let Burke use his cap space on him.
yup. I'm a huge Ohlund fan (I don't really get overly emotional about individual players, but if I had to pick an "all time favourite Canuck" it might be Ohlund--him, Gelinas or Didiuck probably) but there's really no spot on the roster for him, unless he's willing to cut his pay cheque in half. no reason at all for him to do that.

Edler is ready to move permanently into the top 4. That bumps Ohlund down to the third pairing. even at his current contract, the way our roster is set-up for next season, it doesn't make sense. It makes more sense to put Ohlund's money towards signing our 5-7 dmen. probably get all three for =/< Ohlunds current salary.


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It's good to hear, from our longest serving active Canuck. I bet he resigns here.
I bet you he doesn't, seriously though, name your terms.

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I'd be shocked if he returned, Ohlund along with Beauchemin/Leopold (missing anyone?) are pretty much the cream of that 2nd tier of defensemen.

Even if both sides want a deal, can the Canucks afford to pay Ohlund?

Say he accepts an identical cap hit - then factor in raises for the Sedins, Burrows/Edler extension, Hodgson's bonus laiden contract and the task of replacing Sundin's presence in the top six. Leaves us at around ~53-54M once RFA's are signed, with no 6-7or8 defensemen and a big hole in the top six.

This is the price of keeping together the current squad sans Sundin. Might even work if Hodgson has a big impact and the youth continues to improve, but too much uncertainty.

The raises for Edler and Bieksa likely spelled the end for Mattias Ohlund in Vancouver.

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As much as I like Ohlund, I seriously doubt he cashes in on a contract worth more than 4 M per. Maybe in previous off seasons, but not this one. But you never know, there will always be Glen Sathers in this world.

Ohlund's days as a Vancouver Canuck are likely done after this season.

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As much as I like Ohlund, I seriously doubt he cashes in on a contract worth more than 4 M per. Maybe in previous off seasons, but not this one. But you never know, there will always be Glen Sathers in this world.

Ohlund's days as a Vancouver Canuck are likely done after this season.
I won't be surprised to see him sign a 2 year/$10m deal.

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We got rather many players on the list. We could cut it down in order to afford keeping the better players.

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We got rather many players on the list. We could cut it down in order to afford keeping the better players.
Don't know what you're saying here, but assuming you're suggesting we move players to keep Ohlund?

Sorry but that's a terrible idea. Ohlund is not a good defenseman anymore in his role. Definitely would be overpaid if we retained him even at his current salary.

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Don't know what you're saying here, but assuming you're suggesting we move players to keep Ohlund?

Sorry but that's a terrible idea. Ohlund is not a good defenseman anymore in his role. Definitely would be overpaid if we retained him even at his current salary.
Unfortuanately you hatred of Ohlund is getting old. Personally I believe the people that are rating Ohlund in the top 5 UFA defencemen this year. Actually if you look at the UFA rankings Ohlund is anywhere between 2nd and 4th amoung defencemen. The only consistency is JBo is number 1 this year.

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Don't know what you're saying here, but assuming you're suggesting we move players to keep Ohlund?

Sorry but that's a terrible idea. Ohlund is not a good defenseman anymore in his role. Definitely would be overpaid if we retained him even at his current salary.
"anymore"? When did you ever think he was good? SEL?

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"anymore"? When did you ever think he was good? SEL?
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And yet another thread derailed thanks to Pauser's infatuation with big sweaty Swedish defensemen.

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well, in all fairness to Pauser, this is a thread about re-signing Ohlund. :shrugs:

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Not really, it was a thread about the NHL.com article.

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