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03-25-2009, 11:31 AM
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He's there for what he brings to the bench. I saw a really good replay yesterday where after Josh blocked a shot he limped back to the bench. There Patrice not only congratulated him on his sacrifice, but did a good job in boosting his spirits.

Too often in the last few games has the bench been incredibly quiet. You need guys, leaders, like Brisebois to light up the bench.

That being said I didn't watch the whole game, so I don't know if his on ice performance did more harm than his work cheering up his team mates.
He's also very good at cheering up the other team with his awful play.

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03-25-2009, 11:44 AM
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Quick check at his career stats:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/players/...ws9AilVg5ivLYF

Best PP season was 00-01 with 28 points on the PP. Best overall offensive season was 05-06 with 38 points. Nothing spectacular that's for sure.
Definately not worth the trade off of all his blunders

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03-25-2009, 11:48 AM
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Enough already, he's in his third year with the team.He is not a rookie.
Not technically, but he's certainly not a polished verteran. Don't get me wrong - I'm not a Lats apologist... There's just no way brisbois should have pinched on that particular play.

He shouldn't pinch - ever. Hell, he shouldn't even frigging dress for this team anymore.

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03-25-2009, 12:41 PM
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Bob likes him and if bob
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he'll be defense coach soon.

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03-25-2009, 01:08 PM
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The fact that Latendresse is suppose to be the one to blame doesn't make what Patrice did a great play especially if you remember how weak that pinch was, not even close to the player, and a weak one-hand towards the puck. And needless to say that this was at the end of a shift AND that it's Latendresse we're talking about here....not exactly the speedy dynamo even at the start of a shift that would have been able to take the shot and position himself to take Brisebois' place. Brisebois should've recognize it and not take the chance.

A really great play by Brisebois would have been that he would've pokecheck or check the guy much better than that making the attack alive in the zone. Not the way he did it.
I think you're right here... and your definitely right that Patrice should have taken the body on his pinch (if you're going to take yourself out of the play like that you have to take someone with you).

I just spoke up because I didn't see that goal as Patrice's fault. Still don't (it was a breakdown of our pinching gameplan).

For this reason I'm stuck defending Patrice, but don't get me wrong, my defence of Patrice goes no further than this particular play. That goal was the result of a breakdwon in our gameplan. A gameplan that was really good. The best we've had in a while.

On Patrice's role with the team. I think he can still contribute in a minimal role. And to be completely honest, I'm not certain Schneider is any better. He worries me just as much, runs around like a chicken with no head, and does not "take the hit to make a play".

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03-25-2009, 01:23 PM
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Not technically, but he's certainly not a polished verteran. Don't get me wrong - I'm not a Lats apologist... There's just no way brisbois should have pinched on that particular play.

He shouldn't pinch - ever. Hell, he shouldn't even frigging dress for this team anymore.
Now that's absurd.

If Brisebois is in the lineup, it's as an offensive defenseman. Pinching is part of that job.

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03-25-2009, 01:35 PM
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did you actually see that or we re you listening to retard brunet saying that brisebois did something good there and not even compliment or comment for that matter on Georges performance that shift.
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I love being terrible at French and piecing together how many fans just repeat what they hear from the announcers.

Sorry, I don't want to pick on you, but the last part is the best, we should call him Prozac-Patrice!

But I heavily agree with the OP, Patrice is hurting more than helping.
No, what the guy was saying is true. Gorges blocked a shot and as he limped to the bench, Brisebois, Schneider and someone else all reached out for Gorges to pull him on. Breezer gave him a tap on the head, then in the ass.

Breezer sucks, but he's also there to tap people on the helmet, and whatnot for a job well done.

I wonder if he would be any good at forward.

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03-25-2009, 01:40 PM
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Now that's absurd.

If Brisebois is in the lineup, it's as an offensive defenseman. Pinching is part of that job.
He is still a defenseman and should not make stupid play. Im not saying he should never pinch but he's veteran and should evaluate the risk. How many times this season we saw him make a bad pinch that resulted into a goal.

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03-25-2009, 02:03 PM
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No, what the guy was saying is true. Gorges blocked a shot and as he limped to the bench, Brisebois, Schneider and someone else all reached out for Gorges to pull him on. Breezer gave him a tap on the head, then in the ass.

Breezer sucks, but he's also there to tap people on the helmet, and whatnot for a job well done.

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I like the chemistry we've seen recently, but I'm not sure I'm comfortable with the guys having that level of "closeness"...

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I wonder if he would be any good at forward
Anal on the bench in front of 20-some thousand people seems pretty forward to me...

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03-25-2009, 02:06 PM
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I like the chemistry we've seen recently, but I'm not sure I'm comfortable with the guys having that level of "closeness"...



Anal on the bench in front of 20-some thousand people seems pretty forward to me...

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03-25-2009, 02:14 PM
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Its okay to have a brain-fart every once in a while, but it seems like breezer has a bowl of beans before every game

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03-25-2009, 02:16 PM
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Quick check at his career stats:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/players/...ws9AilVg5ivLYF

Best PP season was 00-01 with 28 points on the PP. Best overall offensive season was 05-06 with 38 points. Nothing spectacular that's for sure.
38 may have been his highest, however 99/00 was clearly his most productive when he put up 35 points in a mere 54 games. Brisebois earlier in his career was injury prone but very productive. Did not have the all around game to be a top pairing guy on a good team, but was perfect as a 2nd pairing pp specialist in his prime. Even his production this season has been good considering he is a part time player in the bottom pairings. he is only -3, which is hardly terrible, and does have 17 points.

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He makes way too many mistakes. I'd like to see these pairings

Markov - Komi
Hamr - Gorges
Dandenault - Schneider

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Quick check at his career stats:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/players/...ws9AilVg5ivLYF

Best PP season was 00-01 with 28 points on the PP. Best overall offensive season was 05-06 with 38 points. Nothing spectacular that's for sure.
His best overall offensive season was earlier, when he was on pace for around 50 points but got injured (35 points in 58 games or something).. and you also need to look at the teams he was on. He played ONE healthy year out of Montreal.. when he was already in his mid-late 30's and posted a career high in points.. cause the team he was on was better. He could of hit 500+ points on good clubs.

He was also incredible in the playoffs last year.. 6 points in 10 games.

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And since it was used so much last year, can someone find me the record of the club when Brisebois is in the lineup, rather than scratched?

I've agreed a long time ago, that he should not be playing every game, but for the sake of argument, if someone can provide the stat above, it'd be awesome.. I mean, since it was used as such a negative fact last year.

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03-25-2009, 02:28 PM
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I wonder if he would be any good at forward.
You know, being a huge fan of his, I always wondered this throughout his career.. kind of like Streit. Brisebois loves the backdoor play.. but I always thought he could of been a decent forward, since he shoots a lot.. something a lot of players don't seem to do.

However, I think he would of been a terrible forechecker.. and his speed would hurt him now, I think.

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No, what the guy was saying is true. Gorges blocked a shot and as he limped to the bench, Brisebois, Schneider and someone else all reached out for Gorges to pull him on. Breezer gave him a tap on the head, then in the ass.

Breezer sucks, but he's also there to tap people on the helmet, and whatnot for a job well done.

I wonder if he would be any good at forward.
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You know, being a huge fan of his, I always wondered this throughout his career.. kind of like Streit. Brisebois loves the backdoor play.. but I always thought he could of been a decent forward, since he shoots a lot.. something a lot of players don't seem to do.

However, I think he would of been a terrible forechecker.. and his speed would hurt him now, I think.
Enough already, I get the point...

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You know, being a huge fan of his, I always wondered this throughout his career.. kind of like Streit. Brisebois loves the backdoor play.. but I always thought he could of been a decent forward, since he shoots a lot.. something a lot of players don't seem to do.

However, I think he would of been a terrible forechecker.. and his speed would hurt him now, I think.
A forward??? lol

The guy avoids contact like the plague as a defensman, imagine as a forward. He'd make Craig Janney look tough

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You know, being a huge fan of his, I always wondered this throughout his career.. kind of like Streit. Brisebois loves the backdoor play.. but I always thought he could of been a decent forward, since he shoots a lot.. something a lot of players don't seem to do.

However, I think he would of been a terrible forechecker.. and his speed would hurt him now, I think.
That is true. Though, he'd always be back on d. It would be like 2 forward 2 d and one useless player who hangs around the d. ThaT's not fair, he has made some nice plays, but he mostly makes bad ones.

He needs 1, or 2 more goals for 100 in his career ?

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Enough already, I get the point...

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