This has nothing to do with the SJ Sharks so you can save your envy comments.
A fan of any other team, unless they've followed the "Rob Blake Saga" closely, has pretty much no frame of reference here. You're walking into a snarl of he said/she said that goes back for years.
Those of us that hate him can tolerate those Kings fans who are indifferent or still like him, even though we can't understand the latter, but it's infuriating to have someone who is not intimate with the situation tell me or anyone here how things should be.
Blake should not have been traded to Colorado. He was traded because he wanted too much money. He won. Then, years later he was signed for more than he wanted back when he was traded. Then he signed a free agent deal with a team that was in much better position to win. He's old, he needs to win now, the Kings don't offer him that opportunity. What's the problem? The Kings didn't need him and he signed in SJ, whoop de doo. My question is does he spurn the Kings when it's time to go to the HOF?
I don't care if the HOF is desperate enough to take him. I only care about #4 being raised up to the rafters in Staples Center... As long as we don't get stupid and retire his number, I am fine with whatever.
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He never had the chance to. Blake gave him the non negotiable offer and as Lombardi was trying to see if he could get it to fit, Blake called him back and told him he was taking SJ's deal. I mean, Orpik was a real possibility, that's why Dean was trying to see if he could fit Blake in at that number.
This was weeks into free agency. Dean never denied going past Blake's time table. I think from that fact, Blake's breakdown as to what happened, and hindsights view of that offseason shows that Blake wasn't in DL's plans.
SJ fan's opinions mean absolutely dick in this thread.
Not to be an ass as I'm not one of those "don't post on my board" types and actually welcome other team's fans to post here.
You just have to excuse me if the SJ fans trying to back Blake come off as someone who is dating my ex-girlfriend and, while accepting the bj's she never gave me, trying to tell me how great of a person and girlfriend she is.
Dont worry about it Big Guy, your ex-girlfriend never gave me bj's either!
I love that the biggest ******** on this board are the ones defending Blake.
He SIGNED in SJ and the Kings didn't NEED him. He escaped the black hole, his team is winning and he took some shots at management through the media. That is the standard MO of every former King. You leave LA you win. You stay you build character through the draft and improve 3 points in the standings yearly. You'd be a fool not to take a 1 year, 5 million dollar deal to play across from Dan Boyle, in front of Nabokov and have Joe Thornton pass the puck to you. Blake made the right decision and the Kings made the right decision not to sign him. He excels on good teams and can't do much on a bad team like almost every other NHL player. Now if the Kings had barely missed the playoffs last season and needed a boost to get them in along with adding some more scoring then Blake would have been a solid choice.
This was weeks into free agency. Dean never denied going past Blake's time table. I think from that fact, Blake's breakdown as to what happened, and hindsights view of that offseason shows that Blake wasn't in DL's plans.
Uh, maybe I'm confused, but Blake was signed July 3rd. Free agency begins July 1st.
This was weeks into free agency. Dean never denied going past Blake's time table. I think from that fact, Blake's breakdown as to what happened, and hindsights view of that offseason shows that Blake wasn't in DL's plans.
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Uh, maybe I'm confused, but Blake was signed July 3rd. Free agency begins July 1st.
Days, . . . Weeks, . . . Years? As a KING FAN, it really doesnt seem to make much of a difference anymore, does it??
Uh, maybe I'm confused, but Blake was signed July 3rd. Free agency begins July 1st.
I think no name was referring to the time frame when the Kings had the exclusive rights to negotiate with Blake before the free agency period began.
IMO, Blake's hand was forced when the teams looking for a defenseman in his price range started signing the higher end players. Had Blake waited much longer, his options would be extremely limited.
If you're going to be mad at Blake, the issue shouldn't be signing with another team, but turning down a trade to San Jose at the trade deadline. This trade would have likely brought the Kings a valuable asset - instead the Kings got nothing AND he still went with San Jose.
I think no name was referring to the time frame when the Kings had the exclusive rights to negotiate with Blake before the free agency period began.
IMO, Blake's hand was forced when the teams looking for a defenseman in his price range started signing the higher end players. Had Blake waited much longer, his options would be extremely limited.
If you're going to be mad at Blake, the issue shouldn't be signing with another team, but turning down a trade to San Jose at the trade deadline. This trade would have likely brought the Kings a valuable asset - instead the Kings got nothing AND he still went with San Jose.
Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding.
THIS, even if you don't know anything else. And by itself its enough. Blake could have waived the NTC, ganered us some valuable assets, played for SJ in last seasons playoffs and come back and signed here the next year. Instead he nixes a trade, plays out a lack luster season and ends up in San Jose this season anyway. Some one said it best at the beginning of the thread: BUCK FLAKE
It's unfortunate, because if I had to have a second team, it would be the Sharks - that is before Blake landed there. I actually would like to see the Sharks win it. Perhaps an injury before the playoffs start to Blake that takes him out of the playoffs for its duration, the Sharks win the Cup but Blake does not get another ring and doesn't get his name on the Cup...would that happen if he missed the entire playoffs?
His refusal to go the SJ for a pick or assets is the only reason I am pissed...I got over that Colorado **** a while back. No matter how you spin it, he refused to be traded to a team he ultimately signed with in the offseason. There is no reason to do that other than to **** or not give a **** about the team you play for.
Lombardi gave him the NTC. Blame Lombardi for including that in a deal that was for too much money for a player the Kings didn't need especially given his age. He had a NTC and used it, which is his right. Lombardi's NTC's have handicapped this team.
Oh I did do my homework... GEE... This sounds familiar.
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I agree wholeheartedly. I don't know how anybody could think Belfour tried as a Shark.
Belfour did what Soupy did but worse. He straight up said that he wanted to stay, and he wouldn't leave for more money. Then on the first day of free agency he left for more money.
Craig Janney is a close second for me.
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It's not that he left for more money that everyone is mad about, it's the fact that he lied about it the whole time leading up to it. Just like Belfour before him.
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No, he lied. He said family was important, and he bolts for the dollar signs instead.
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Call me crazy, but when they say family is important and they want to be with them, I take that as they think their family is important and they want to be with them, not that they want the most money. Lying is lying, no matter how you want to spin it.
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If he would've just admitted that, I don't think anyone would've cared. Lying is unforgiveable.
Um, how does that relate at all to your post about Belfour supposedly not waiving his NTC clause? We traded FOR Belfour and FOR Campbell. We didn't have them and try to trade them but they wouldn't waive their NTCs. Like I said, do your homework.
Um, how does that relate at all to your post about Belfour supposedly not waiving his NTC clause? We traded FOR Belfour and FOR Campbell. We didn't have them and try to trade them but they wouldn't waive their NTCs. Like I said, do your homework.
He still lied, said he wanted to remain with the Sharks and jumped ship immediately after for more money. Gee. What scenario does that remind you of? Oh, yeah... Rob Blake. Just because I was incorrect on a moot point doesn't change the fact that the scenario is more or less the same, even though it adds more to the fact that we should be angrier that he denied us assets than in your case where he didn't deny you assets he just left. You are clinging onto a technicality because you have nothing. Everything you said in that Belfour thread applies to this Blake thread. You need to shut your damn mouth (i.e. stop typing in this thread) and go back to trolling your sharks forum. Because it is obvious that you know exactly what we are talking about and are just prodding for the hell of it.
He still lied, said he wanted to remain with the Sharks and jumped ship immediately after for more money. Gee. What scenario does that remind you of? Oh, yeah... Rob Blake. Just because I was incorrect on a moot point doesn't change the fact that the scenario is more or less the same, even though it adds more to the fact that we should be angrier that he denied us assets than in your case where he didn't deny you assets he just left? You are clinging onto a technicality because you have nothing. Everything you said in that Belfour thread applies to this Blake thread. You need to shut your damn mouth (or stop typing in this thread) and go back to trolling your sharks forum. Because it is obvious that you know exactly what we are talking about and are just prodding for the hell of it.
If Blake was given an offer by the Kings, he would've taken it, but he wasn't, so he didn't.
Completely different scenario.
edit: I also have every right to post here. You on the other hand have no right to tell me that I can't.
If Blake was given an offer by the Kings, he would've taken it, but he wasn't, so he didn't.
Completely different scenario.
edit: I also have every right to post here. You on the other hand have no right to tell me that I can't.
Oh yeah? Where did I say you have no right to post here? Please. By all means, quote it for me. I would love to see it. Oh, that's right. I didn't say that... I said to not post here and go troll your sharks forums as you do others. Wow... That sounds like a "completely different scenario."
Lombardi told Blake he was going to get a contract. He was trying to make his contract fit. Blake had already denied us assets and pledged his loyalty to finish his career here. So while Lombardi is making Blake's number fit the books he jets on the next offer... It is still a case of a player saying one thing and doing something completely different. And as you say...
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Lying is lying, no matter how you want to spin it.
Oh yeah? Where did I say you have no right to post here? Please. By all means, quote it for me. I would love to see it. Oh, that's right. I didn't say that... I said to not post here and go troll your sharks forums as you do others. Wow... That sounds like a "completely different scenario."
Lombardi told Blake he was going to get a contract. He was trying to make his contract fit. Blake had already denied us assets and pledged his loyalty to finish his career here. So while Lombardi is making Blake's number fit the books he jets on the next offer... It is still a case of a player saying one thing and doing something completely different. And as you say...
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And how long is he supposed to wait for this contract that never materialized? Was he supposed to just tell the Sharks no thanks, and then have Lombardi say "oops, can't give you that contract after all, sorry."
Lombardi had all playoffs to get a contract ready for him and he didn't. If there's anyone to blame, it's him. I guess it's easier to blame the guy who isn't in the organization anymore though. Don't want to think the guy steering the boat is capable of making mistakes (which he is).
And how long is he supposed to wait for this contract that never materialized? Was he supposed to just tell the Sharks no thanks, and then have Lombardi say "oops, can't give you that contract after all, sorry."
Lombardi had all playoffs to get a contract ready for him and he didn't. If there's anyone to blame, it's him. I guess it's easier to blame the guy who isn't in the organization anymore though. Don't want to think the guy steering the boat is capable of making mistakes (which he is).
Other stars don't seem to have trouble giving their GM's/franchises time to balance the books to include them. Suddenly Blake cannot wait a moment longer after all these years and all this building up that he wants to retire here and have a job in the office and such... He gave Dean the number, Dean said he would confer with his staff to see how he can fit the number and then Rob Blake goes and plays a video game and decides he is done waiting. Was Dean supposed to read Rob's mind and extract the number it was going to take for Blake to stay from his head? The fact is, Blake is a dick that has always leaned on the side of money over team. Surely you can understand that concept. This didn't happen to us once with him... This was the second time. This argument is getting all too speculative and you are now bouncing around trying to cling to anything. The fact remains. Regardless of what you think of Lombardi. He was getting the deal done and Blake jumped ship before Dean could even give him a reply. Not exactly the conduct of someone loyal to a franchise. I can cite you dozens of players that wait for their GM to get the books in order around their numbers.
I think no name was referring to the time frame when the Kings had the exclusive rights to negotiate with Blake before the free agency period began.
Fair enough, but no name's use of the word "weeks into free agency" made it seem like Lombardi was stringing Blake along. Knock Lombardi for giving the NTC, I agree. Knock Lombardi for not getting a list of teams Blake would go to sooner, I agree. Knocking Lombardi for an inaccurate time frame of getting something done, I don't agree.
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IMO, Blake's hand was forced when the teams looking for a defenseman in his price range started signing the higher end players. Had Blake waited much longer, his options would be extremely limited.
Aside from Campbell, how many d-men were in his price range?
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If you're going to be mad at Blake, the issue shouldn't be signing with another team, but turning down a trade to San Jose at the trade deadline. This trade would have likely brought the Kings a valuable asset - instead the Kings got nothing AND he still went with San Jose.
I'm not mad at him for signing with another team at all. I'm mad at him, as you said, turning down not just the trade to San Jose, but a trade to Detroit as well.
