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03-28-2009, 02:52 PM
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Getting sick of Avery Diving

Anyone else. Every hit? Getting old.

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03-28-2009, 02:57 PM
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I think you meant to write Crosby in the title. I'll forgive you.

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I agree. It just eats up time that could be spent playing and puts him a step behind the play more often than not.

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But when someone does it crosbaby they get 5 minutes and an ejection

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In between periods they showed that higlight reel of Avery getting hit. A fully 75 percent of those were dives, that is bad sportsmanship.

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It's part of his game, sometimes it works. I shouldn't be done as often as he does it though.

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at the very least, avery hasn't been whining to the refs all that much. When he gets knocked down, he just gets right up, dive or no dive.

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I would have to agree that he does it too much. He likes to set himself up so he gets hit from behind into the boards, then he launches himself headfirst. He does some some penalties doing it, which is good, but he does it too often.

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03-28-2009, 03:37 PM
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I think you meant to write Crosby in the title. I'll forgive you.
I also meant to write crying too

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it's annoying me. he doesn't seem to do it every game. i caught one obvious dive in front of their net after the whistle.

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at the very least, avery hasn't been whining to the refs all that much. When he gets knocked down, he just gets right up, dive or no dive.
This. It is what it is, I don't care.

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He does dive but can't fault play to much.. Although he made one play in front of net where is f-ing arms are up in air when he should have been playing the puck and trying to knock one in.

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03-28-2009, 07:09 PM
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He does dive but can't fault play to much.. Although he made one play in front of net where is f-ing arms are up in air when he should have been playing the puck and trying to knock one in.
I'm pretty sure on that play he was just trying to ensure that he didn't give the refs any reason at all to call a goalie interference penalty. It's understandable considering the goalie interference penalty he got against Atlanta.

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Anyone else. Every hit? Getting old.
I agree, but its a vicious circle, avery has been cheapshoted by people numerous times and he isn't getting any calls his way, so now he's trying even harder to sell them and finally get a call.

has avery been embellishing- yes absolutely
have the refs ignored plenty of blatant penalties against him- yes absolutely

its easy to say if he would stop embellishing the refs would give him a call, but cmon, its avery, no matter what he does, at this point he aint getting a call in his favor

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doesn't bother me much.

Tonight was a bad example because he got hit quite often and I don't think that I saw a dive today.

Avery played the way he plays and had the refs decided not to swallow the whistle tonight he should have drawn 2-3 PPs for the Rangers

He gets cross-checked by Cindy in the corner - no call

He gets dropped in front of the net after a whistle - no call

Gill dropps him well after he dished the puck and while ti would have been semi-marginal - no call.

for all the moaning about Avery diving, it seems that you to have become as accepting as the Refs of the nightly beating he takes because os hit reputation.

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03-28-2009, 09:59 PM
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He does dive but can't fault play to much.. Although he made one play in front of net where is f-ing arms are up in air when he should have been playing the puck and trying to knock one in.
if you watched that play, his arms were up because he was trying to show the refs he was avoiding the goalie. Not because he was trying to screen the goalie

Micheletti made the same mistake while announcing the game. He was driven closer to the goalie than he wanted to be and wanted to show the refs he was trying to avoid making contact.

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03-28-2009, 10:12 PM
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Wait, wait, wait...

We're talking about the New York Rangers right?

Of all the things to choose from and THIS is what you're sick of?

How bout people other than Avery who play like garbage and bring no effort on a nightly basis?

How bout a coach who has managed to prove he's learned nothing from prior stints in the league in only a handful of games here?

There's a MILLION things to be sick of with this team. This isn't even in the top hundred.

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03-29-2009, 01:28 AM
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Get on Drury...check
Get on Zherdev....check
Get on Gomez...check
Get on Avery...check

What's next Lundqvist...oh wait people already rip on him for giving up his "soft goals." Do any of us appreciate any players on this team? The next thing we see is going to be a thread bashing Callahan.

Get real, grow up, the rangers can't win every game.

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03-29-2009, 03:21 AM
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Here's the thing (and I know I'm going to get flamed for this), if Avery's diving helps the team get Powerplays, and thus helps win games, how can you question it? Are you not paid to do whatever you can to help your team win?

Before I get 1000 flames, understand that YES, I hate it too, the diving in NHL hockey has increased about 3,482,480% in the last few years, and it's disgusting, but refs ARE NOT CALLING DIVES.

THAT is what is fueling all of the diving. As a Devils fan, I hate it more than most, because Sutter is so old-school anti-diving that it is hurting the Devils when they dont dive but the Habs, Caps, Canes, Pens, etc..... will ALL dive. I blame it on the refs for not utilizing the 2 minute "diving" penalty NEARLY ENOUGH.

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03-29-2009, 09:09 AM
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In regards to diving, I remember the Rangers early 90's teams and they had Paul Broten that made a living of diving. He drew PP's for the Rangers every game.

In fact most teams had guys that dove quite often. It was comical but effective.

Avery and the way he plays, helps the Rangers win games. It's part of his make-up as a player and if we want him to remain effective then we cannot limit the way he plays.

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03-29-2009, 11:18 AM
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My point is Avery is sometimes getting hit legitimately but because he dove three times earlier that game we are not getting the call. It's just lame I HATE when Cry baby does it - I don't want one of my favorite rangers doing it.

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03-29-2009, 11:34 AM
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My point is Avery is sometimes getting hit legitimately but because he dove three times earlier that game we are not getting the call. It's just lame I HATE when Cry baby does it - I don't want one of my favorite rangers doing it.

Here's an idea.

First time it happens...the officials should CALL A DIVE.

Then after that, if he gets taken down legitimately there should be a call on that too.

This whole premise of officials letting him dive all the time and then not calling things because he dove previously is insane.

If he dives..CALL IT.

If he gets taken down...CALL IT.

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03-29-2009, 12:06 PM
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if you watched that play, his arms were up because he was trying to show the refs he was avoiding the goalie. Not because he was trying to screen the goalie

Micheletti made the same mistake while announcing the game. He was driven closer to the goalie than he wanted to be and wanted to show the refs he was trying to avoid making contact.
I agree he was deff trying not to get a call but it goes to his play.. He is always worrying cause he has a rep.. It was a missed opportunity that could have led to a scoring chance.

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I think some of his "Dives" are just from his inability to stay on his skates. I swear he falls down at least 2x a shift.

He fits Torts system though if he's playing w/o the extra baggage. He's just a natural fit in New York.

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Thats about the only part of his game I don't like. Savard on the Bruins does the same thing where he sets himself up for a hit from behind and tries to sell it. The refs have a hard enough time as it is. One should never resort to that as a means to win, and I hope the NHL continues to crack down on dives even more in the coming years.

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