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04-04-2009, 12:51 PM
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Games, Points, +/-, Hits, Faceoffs, Points per game since in the NHL

Bouwmeester 467 200 -27 111 0,4
Getzlaf 393 264 59 127 50 0,6
Lupul 367 209 -44 74 0,5
Stoll 360 206 -19 160 57 0,5
Phaneuf 321 206 15 158 0,6
Seabrook 309 112 34 206 0,3
Green 238 141 12 82 0,6
Weber 238 120 20 183 0,5
Ladd 234 106 35 110 0,4
Upshall 226 103 26 90 0,4
Coburn 211 75 20 137 0,3
Craig 181 63 -23 60 0,3
Byfuglien 173 71 -11 72 0,4
Dubinsky 166 79 2 232 53 0,4
Milan Lucic 144 68 14 249 0,47
Barker 144 66 -21 75 0,4
Boyd 132 38 -17 45 0,3
Setoguchi 120 80 23 133 0,67
Comeau 105 39 -16 83 0,3
Versteeg 87 54 12 74 46 0,6
Ward
Price
Harding*



Bouchard 425 267 16 7 58 0,63
Lombardi 362 180 21 39 51 0,5
Bergeron 300 225 -18 54 54 0,75
Pominville 298 237 29 41 0,8
Crosby 285 393 36 76 51 1,4
Talbot 257 79 -16 112 52 0,3
S Bernier 253 122 12 141 0,48
Vlasic 240 75 21 50 0,31
Latendresse 204 79 -18 129 0,39
Johnson 181 36 18 38 0,2
Lapierre 174 56 6 122 53 0,32
Clowe 160 96 12 133 0,6
Radulov 145 95 26 0,65
Letang 139 49 -11 102 0,35
Perron 139 76 28 76 0,55
Shepperd 155 39 -14 69 0,25
Voracek 75 36 10 32 0,5
Frolik 74 41 9 43 0,55
Brassard 48 27 8 40 50 0,56
Giroux 38 23 8 38 0,6
Bourdon 36 2 6 0,05
Leclaire
Fleury
J Bernier

WHL has an average of .49 points per player; Q has .56
WHL has an average of +4.7 per player; Q has +9
WHL has an average of .53 hits per game; Q has .33
WHL has an average of 51% on FO; Q has 52.7%

there we can see a difference in number of hits, unlike in the comparison with Americans. Also, it's tough to compare since the WHL has more d-men and the q has more forwards.

plaer - points per game

Bouwmeester .4 - Crosby 1.4
Getzlaf .6 - Clowe .6
Lupul .55 - Perron .55
Stoll .5 - S Bernier .48
Phaneuf .6 - Bergeron .75
Seabrook .3 - Vlasic .3
Green .6 - Pominville .8
Weber .5 - Bourdon
Ladd .4 - Latendresse .39
Upshall .4 - Lapierre .32
Coburn .3 - Bouchard .63
Craig .3 - Shepperd .25
Byfuglien .4 - Brassard .56
Dubinsky .4 - Lombardi .5
Milan Lucic .47 - Voracek .5
Barker .4 - Letang .35
Boyd .3 - Frolik .55
Setoguchi .67 - Radulov .65
Comeau .3 - Talbot .3
Versteeg .6 - Giroux .6
Ward - Fleury
Price - Bernier
Harding - Leclaire


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Name, Games, Points, +/-, Hits this season, Faceoffs this season, Points per game since in the NHL

Nash 436 350 -51 71 0,8
E Staal 405 352 -12 57 45 0,85
Horton 353 236 28 90 43 0,6
Brown 344 192 -58 271 0,5
Burns 326 117 4 58 0,3
Carter 302 212 23 52 48 0,7
Richards 285 217 31 139 49 0,7
Perry 282 190 35 104 0,6
Eminger 282 68 -49 77 0,24
Fritsche 253 74 -21 53 43 0,3
J Staal 240 112 8 146 47 0,4
Wolski 235 145 -5 53 0,6
O'Sullivan 203 113 -20 65 41 0,5
Paille 189 73 15 81 0,3
M Staal 158 25 -6 180 0,15
Kane 157 138 -10 15 0,8
Gagner 151 87 -22 27 0,5
Little 122 66 -5 38 44 0,54
Foligno 121 39 -7 84 0,3
Boedker 75 28 -3 75 0,3
Ryan 83 64 13 77 0,7
Neal 73 36 -11 189 0,5
Stamkos 75 43 -11 74 45 0,5
Mason



Bouchard 425 267 16 7 58 0,63
Lombardi 362 180 21 39 51 0,5
Bergeron 300 225 -18 54 54 0,75
Pominville 298 237 29 41 0,8
Crosby 285 393 36 76 51 1,4
Talbot 257 79 -16 112 52 0,3
S Bernier 253 122 12 141 0,48
Vlasic 240 75 21 50 0,31
Latendresse 204 79 -18 129 0,39
Johnson 181 36 18 38 0,2
Lapierre 174 56 6 122 53 0,32
Clowe 160 96 12 133 0,6
Radulov 145 95 26 0,65
Letang 139 49 -11 102 0,35
Perron 139 76 28 76 0,55
Shepperd 155 39 -14 69 0,25
Voracek 75 36 10 32 0,5
Frolik 74 41 9 43 0,55
Brassard 48 27 8 40 50 0,56
Giroux 38 23 8 38 0,6
Bourdon 36 2 6 0,05
Leclaire
Fleury
J Bernier


OHL has an average of .57 points per player; Q has .56
OHL has an average of -6; Q has +9
OHL has an average of .339 hits per game; Q has .33
OHL has an average of 45% on faceoffs; Q has 52.7%

so for a league that gets so many players on team canada every year and so many more 1st round draft picks it's still kinda close


Nash .8 - Pominville .8
E Staal .85 - Crosby 1.4
Horton .6 - Bouchard .63
Brown .5 - Bernier .48
Burns .3 - Vlasic .3
Carter .7 - Bergeron .75
Richards .7 - Fleury
Perry .65 - Clowe .6
Eminger .24 - Letang .35
Fritsche .3 - Talbot .3
J Staal .46 - Lombardi .5
Wolski .6 - Perron .55
O'Sullivan .55 - Frolik .55
Paille .3 - Shepperd .25
M Staal .15 - Bourdon
Kane .8 - Johnson .2
Gagner .5 - Voracek .55
Little .54 - Brassard .56
Foligno .3 - Lapierre .32
Boedker .3 - Latendresse .39
Ryan .7 - Radulov .65
Neal .5 - Leclaire
Stamkos .5 - Giroux .6
Mason - Bernier


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Name, Games, Points, +/-, Hits, Faceoffs, Points per game

Parise 321 248 37 6 44 0,77
Keith 317 126 50 38 0,39
Kesler 315 137 9 67 53 0,43
Vanek 312 256 27 33 0,8
Ballard 310 120 -3 162 0,52
Suter 306 115 9 80 0,357
Higgins 277 149 -12 5 0,53
Zajac 239 136 23 54 52 0,56
Greene 228 26 -33 191 0,11
Kessel 219 120 1 6 48 0,54
Backes 199 105 -10 196 0,52
Stasny 193 185 17 19 51 0,95
Booth 188 103 21 67 0,54
Stafford 178 108 9 74 0,6
Niskanen 154 59 8 84 0,38
Mueller 149 88 -20 34 46 0,59
Toews 140 118 18 40 55 0,84
J Johnson 115 21 -42 64 0,18
Wheeler 76 42 35 45 0,55
Okposo 72 43 -4 64 0,6
E Johnson 65 28 0 0,43
Oshie 53 37 15 63 41 0,69
Pacioretty 34 11 -3 44 0,3


Bouchard 425 267 16 7 58 0,63
Lombardi 362 180 21 39 51 0,5
Bergeron 300 225 -18 54 54 0,75
Pominville 298 237 29 41 0,8
Crosby 285 393 36 76 51 1,4
Talbot 257 79 -16 112 52 0,3
S Bernier 253 122 12 141 0,48
Vlasic 240 75 21 50 0,31
Latendresse 204 79 -18 129 0,39
Johnson 181 36 18 38 0,2
Lapierre 174 56 6 122 53 0,32
Clowe 160 96 12 133 0,6
Radulov 145 95 26 0,65
Letang 139 49 -11 102 0,35
Perron 139 76 28 76 0,55
Shepperd 155 39 -14 69 0,25
Voracek 75 36 10 32 0,5
Frolik 74 41 9 43 0,55
Brassard 48 27 8 40 50 0,56
Giroux 38 23 8 38 0,6
Bourdon 36 2 6 0,05
Leclaire
Fleury
J Bernier

Americans have an average of .53 points per game; Q has .56
Americans have an average of +6; Q has +9
Americans have an average of .32 hits per game; Q has .33
Americans have an average of 48% on faceoffs; Q has 52.7%

name, points per game

Parise .77 - Bergeron .75
Keith .39 - Leclaire
Kesler .43 - Lombardi .5
Vanek 08 - Pominville .8
Ballard .52 - Fleury
Suter .3 - Vlasic .3
Higgins .53 - Bernier .48
Zajac .56 - Brassard .56
Greene .11 - Bourdon
Kessel .54 - Bouchard .63
Backes .52 - Clowe.6
Stasny .95 - Crosby 1.4
Booth .54 - Perron .55
Stafford .6 - Giroux .6
Niskanen .38 - Johnson .2
Mueller .59 - Voracek .55
Toews .84 - Radulov .65
J Johnson .18 - Letang .35
Wheeler .55 - Frolik .55
Okposo .6 - Latendresse .39
E Johnson .43 - Bernier
Oshie .69 - Lapierre .32
Pacioretty .3 - Shepperd .25

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I went through the list of Sweden and Finland and couldn't find much to match the Q

Pitkanen 0,5 - Fleury
Franzen 0,5 - Bernier .48
Kopitar 0,87 - Bergeron .75
Eriksson 0,53 - Brassard .56
Nilsson 0,48 - Voracek .5
Edler 0,3 - Vlasic .3
Backstrom 0,94 - Crosby 1.4
Berglund 0,65 - Pominville .8
Brunnstrom 0,47 - Giroux .6
Stralman 0,57 - Clowe .6


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and as for the rest of Europe

Zherdev 0,65 - Bouchard .63
Ovechkin 1,29 - Crosby 1.4
Michalek 0,67 - Radulov .65
Meszaros 0,4 - Vlasic .3
Streit 0,59 - Clowe .6
Prucha 0,48 - Brassard .56
Semin 0,8 - Pominville .8
Malkin 1,26 - Fleury
Olesz 0,37 - Lombardi .5
Fleischmann 0,4 - Latendresse .39
A Kostitsyn 0,58 - Giroux .6
Grebeshkov 0,34 - Bourdon
Babchuk 0,32 - Leclaire
Hanzal 0,46 - Bernier .48
Krejci 0,7 - Bergeron .75
S Kostitsyn 0,46 - Lapierre .32
Grabovski 0,54 - Perron .55
Frolik 0,55 - Voracek .5
Tlusty 0,27 - Shepperd .25
Kulemin 0,44 - Letang .35
Halak - Bernier

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I wonder if your PPG ratio's are going to be skewed in favor of the Quebec league if you use more defenseman for other leagues.

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interesting, if you do a proper breakdown. i have American forwards at a .64 ppg while the Q forwards at .59. A point .64 ppg for OHL.

yeah for statistics.

edit - i cant resist to much fun of a thread.

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interesting, if you do a proper breakdown. i have American forwards at a .64 ppg while the Q forwards at .59. A point .64 ppg for OHL.

yeah for statistics.

edit - i cant resist to much fun of a thread.
It would be .62 for the Q, .63 for the O and .636 for americans

we're kind of in the same ballpark for a league that's considerably weaker and only gets 2 or 3 guys on team canada every year.


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I wonder if your PPG ratio's are going to be skewed in favor of the Quebec league if you use more defenseman for other leagues.
I would use more forwards for the WHL but I'm not sure it would help them to have Clarke MacArthur and Blair Jones compared to Q forwards

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Yesterday night, I watched the Flyers-Leafs game.

And it made me really sick to watch Carter and Giroux destroy Leafs' defence and goalies... And I won't mention Gagné ...

I am sorry to bring that back, but when you need a big RH center, you don't draft A.Kostistyn but Carter... Or Getzlaf Or Richards

And when you need a dynamic, creative RW, you don't draft Fischer but Giroux !


Timmins might be good at drafting gems in second rounds and later , but how weak can he be in the first rounds ?

Pacioretty will be fine, not exceptional. And I am waiting for McDonaugh and Fischer to show up some day.
Yea seeing Gagné, Carter, Richards and Giroux at work is painful to watch from a Habs fan perspective. Players we could EASILY have gotten. Especialy Giroux. After all the chances they missed with french kids(even if he's from Ontario) I thought:"boy Giroux must really suck for the Habs to not select him". Considering Fischer was a long-term progect from the get-go.

That "miss" was unforgivable in my opinion.

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That "miss" was unforgivable in my opinion.
Meh, he's not the best player picked after us.

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Meh, he's not the best player picked after us.
No but he was the most noticable.

Scratch that- yes he was


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No but he was the most noticable.

Scratch that- yes he was
Eh, I'd take Berglund before him without giving it much thought.

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Eh, I'd take Berglund before him without giving it much thought.
fine you'd rather have Berglund and I'd rather have Giroux, I think it's debatable and I think it's fair to say that other leagues aren't clearly and objectively superior to the Q even though your gut might have you prefer players from other leagues.

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fine you'd rather have Berglund and I'd rather have Giroux, I think it's debatable and I think it's fair to say that other leagues aren't clearly and objectively superior to the Q even though your gut might have you prefer players from other leagues.
... I wasn't talking about your "study" at all, but fine, have it your way.

Oh, and I wanted Giroux in 2006. Still think Berglund projects to be better now, but again, I didn't know much about the players available at that point.

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fine you'd rather have Berglund and I'd rather have Giroux, I think it's debatable and I think it's fair to say that other leagues aren't clearly and objectively superior to the Q even though your gut might have you prefer players from other leagues.
I'd rather have Berglund than Giroux and even more than that, I'd rather have Lucic.

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fine you'd rather have Berglund and I'd rather have Giroux, I think it's debatable and I think it's fair to say that other leagues aren't clearly and objectively superior to the Q even though your gut might have you prefer players from other leagues.
Name ONE way, just ONE way Giroux would be better for this team than Patrik Berglund.

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Name ONE way, just ONE way Giroux would be better for this team than Patrik Berglund.
Giroux already had a 100 point season in the Q before being drafted and had faced better opposition than Berglund in the second league of europe. Giroux has more points per game this season and Berglund doesn't even win 40% of his faceoffs.

I'd much rather go for players who have played at higher levels and performed there rather than go for high school players and second league players.

We talked about Parise earlier, Zach had great season(s) at North Dakota before being drafted and that to me is much more valuable than projections. The same goes for Carter.

Yes you could go with Berglund in a one for one deal with Giroux, fine I have no problem with that. But my general philosophy is different than that and I would have considered a guy like Parise/Carter before that so that when came time to draft Giroux I could only go with the best player available instead of need picks.


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Giroux already had a 100 point season in the Q before being drafted and had faced better opposition than Berglund in the second league of europe. Giroux has more points per game this season and Berglund doesn't even win 40% of his faceoffs.

I'd much rather go for players who have played at higher levels and performed there rather than go for high school players and second league players.

We talked about Parise earlier, Zach had great season(s) at North Dakota before being drafted and that to me is much more valuable than projections. The same goes for Carter.

Yes you could go with Berglund in a one for one deal with Giroux, fine I have no problem with that. But my general philosophy is different than that and I would have considered a guy like Parise/Carter before that so that when came time to draft Giroux I could only go with the best player available instead of need picks.
Bottom line is Berglund is already a 20 goal scorer, 50 point player in his rookie season. He's highly talented, he's big and he's a centre. There is no way that Giroux is better for the team than he is. Sorry, it goes to organizational depth and to the fact that Berglund is the better player. I could score 100 points in the Q, there's no defence. Giroux got three points one night I watched and they were three gimme's. So points in a low level league don't tell the whole story. The fact is Berglund's been in the NHL all season, produced regularly and is a unique blend of size and skill. Giroux is a dime a dozen skilled small player.

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yeah right
I'm done with you. You have "property of the Q" branded on your ass.

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Bottom line is Berglund is already a 20 goal scorer, 50 point player in his rookie season. He's highly talented, he's big and he's a centre. There is no way that Giroux is better for the team than he is. Sorry, it goes to organizational depth and to the fact that Berglund is the better player. I could score 100 points in the Q, there's no defence. Giroux got three points one night I watched and they were three gimme's. So points in a low level league don't tell the whole story. The fact is Berglund's been in the NHL all season, produced regularly and is a unique blend of size and skill. Giroux is a dime a dozen skilled small player.
yeah right

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I'm done with you. You have "property of the Q" branded on your ass.
nope, I just think it's a good league and deserves more credit than people give it credit for. I never said it's the only league to draft players from, the best league that ever was, is and ever will be. But it's certainly not a piece of trash like people treat it.

IMO of the 3 great factors being production/experience, skills and attitude, it seems like production is often diminished in the evaluation of talent.

People skip quickly on guys like Giroux and Carter who produced at the CHL level before being drafted.

The same goes for Booth who was drafted out of the NCAA and not HS, or same for Parise who got drafted out of the NCAA. You can look back at drafts and guys like Duncan Keith actually had a body of work that Linehart didn't have. Subban had a body of work. They had produced before taken along as projects because they may have a lack in size, defensive play or whatever.

I prefer players like Perron, Giroux, Carter, Parise and so on who have production and skills and body of work to play at the next level over projects like most high school players and second league players in europe.

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Hopefully, Timmins can go for the offensively talened forwards in upcoming drafts.

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Yeah, WeThreeKings is right...glad you noticed...

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... I wasn't talking about your "study" at all, but fine, have it your way.

Oh, and I wanted Giroux in 2006. Still think Berglund projects to be better now, but again, I didn't know much about the players available at that point.
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Originally Posted by WeThreeKings View Post
Name ONE way, just ONE way Giroux would be better for this team than Patrik Berglund.
The difference isn't big enough though. That's what we're saying... that's ignoring YOUR market. The team isn't located in Sweden, it's in Quebec! At similar skills, pick your own.

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