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How many points can Aleksey Morozov can get in the NHL?

View Poll Results: How many points can Aleksey Morozov can get in the NHL?
10-30 pts 9 6.82%
31-50 pts 34 25.76%
51-70 pts 49 37.12%
71-90 pts 26 19.70%
90+ pts 1 0.76%
Meh... 13 9.85%
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03-30-2009, 04:44 PM
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How many points can Aleksey Morozov can get in the NHL?

Can Morozov perform better in the post lockout NHL? if so, how many points can this guy amass? Could he play well on an offensive systems oriented teams like the Sabres or Sharks? I think he could last in the NHL and probably put up like 60 pts or so on a good team (sharks, red wings)with good linemates.

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03-30-2009, 05:01 PM
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Morozov was one of the more inconsistent players I have ever seen. One game he looks like a superstar, the next 15 he doesn't show up.

He played in offensive system in Pittsburgh with guys like Jagr, Kovalev, Straka and Lang, he rarely did anything much at all. Maybe he has gotten a little better, but I just have the feeling he probably is not as good now as he was then.

I almost forgot that Lemieux played several years with him, I even think they were linemates.


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Against Brodeur he looked like a first ballot HOFer (see: Marty's book). He had a very deceptive shot...

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I really like Morozov. I've watched him some games in the KHL and he really rips it. I think he would be a 60-70pts player in the NHL. I'm quite serious

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Morozov was one of the more inconsistent players I have ever seen. One game he looks like a superstar, the next 15 he doesn't show up.

He played in offensive system in Pittsburgh with guys like Jagr, Kovalev, Straka and Lang, he rarely did anything much at all. Maybe he has gotten a little better, but I just have the feeling he probably is not as good now as he was then.

I almost forgot that Lemieux played several years with him, I even think they were linemates.
I watched Morozov quite a bit and I don't think he ever resembled a superstar. He has a good shot...thats about it. Eventually his soff play gets a puck through and for some odd reason he did well against the trap system in NJ.

I do think he would improve now. Like a Huselius lite. (yes, you can get liter than Huselius)

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03-30-2009, 07:46 PM
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10-30. In reality it would be like 35-40, but I didn't want to vote for that option because 50 was too much.

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I really like Morozov. I've watched him some games in the KHL and he really rips it. I think he would be a 60-70pts player in the NHL. I'm quite serious
Against NHL defenders? Not likely

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He would be, give or take, a PPG player in the NHL.

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Against NHL defenders? Not likely
Yes against NHL defenders.

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He would be, give or take, a PPG player in the NHL.
I agree.

Massive underrating of Morozov in this thread.

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I almost forgot that Lemieux played several years with him, I even think they were linemates.
The Kovalev-Lemieux-Morozov line was the hottest in the NHL until Morozov went down...

Wikipedia: "He finally got his chance on the starting line during the 2002–2003 season and the KLM line of Kovalev, Lemieux, and Morozov lead the Penguins to a top 3 record in the conference the first third of the season before being dismantled by injuries and trades. After bursting onto the scene with 25 points in 27 games, Morozov suffered a fractured wrist by a crushing hit that ended his season and Lemieux became bogged down by back problems which forced him to call it a year while Kovalev was later traded at the NHL trade deadline."

As for the topic, I'd say around 55 points. He had Semin-like hands around the net (not the shooting range, though). But he was soft and inconsistent... I think he once went on a 40+ game goalless streak.

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Morozov is overrated anyway. He's probably the most overrated Penguin i have ever known, and i did not like him. But he can probably crack 50ish. He has got 50 in the NHL before if i remember correctly.

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10-30. In reality it would be like 35-40, but I didn't want to vote for that option because 50 was too much.
Huh? In his last 3 seasons he had 49 pts, 50 pts and one with 25 in 27 while getting injured....definitely a 50 point player at least.

I'm not a Morozov fan but I voted for 70-90, because he could put up those numbers in the right situation and that's how the question was asked. It definitely looks like he's improved. Most likely 50-70 though.

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Against NHL defenders? Not likely
well then, play in the SE

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This season

KHL 55 25 28 53 62
Jagr

KHL 52 22 26 48 92
Radulov

KHL 49 32 38 70 22
Morozov

Why wouldn't he break 40 in the NHL? Players do improve you know. He's been the most dominant player the Russian leagues have seen in a long time--Morozov is consistently over a ppg in a league where virtually no one goes above ppg. This is a one assist league.

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51-70 would be my bet.

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Against Brodeur he looked like a first ballot HOFer (see: Marty's book). He had a very deceptive shot...
Yeah he definitely earned his "Devil Killer" name

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Huh? In his last 3 seasons he had 49 pts, 50 pts and one with 25 in 27 while getting injured....definitely a 50 point player at least.

I'm not a Morozov fan but I voted for 70-90, because he could put up those numbers in the right situation and that's how the question was asked. It definitely looks like he's improved. Most likely 50-70 though.
Imagine him signing on Washington to play with Semin!

Ovechkin-Backstrom-Kozlov
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I tend to think he has matured and grown in the KHL/RSL since we last saw him. He has gained a lot of experience and most importantly character. Its true he is a streaky player and sometimes he looks terrible.

I honestly think if he had come back to the NHL in the last few years he would be 70 point player and flirt with 30 goals. But he wants to much money.

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This season

KHL 55 25 28 53 62
Jagr

KHL 52 22 26 48 92
Radulov

KHL 49 32 38 70 22
Morozov

Why wouldn't he break 40 in the NHL? Players do improve you know. He's been the most dominant player the Russian leagues have seen in a long time--Morozov is consistently over a ppg in a league where virtually no one goes above ppg. This is a one assist league.
good post! but you cant explain to anybody that 1+1 is 2 and not 3 or 6 for example because they just want to believe what they want to believe. i am 100% sure that if Ovechkin or Malkin would leave the NHL then we can see there a lot of people who will call them as a NOBODYS because they truly believe in one and only N H L !!!

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i think Marozov will likely get 70-80 points if he would be in NHL these days.

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This season

KHL 55 25 28 53 62
Jagr

KHL 52 22 26 48 92
Radulov

KHL 49 32 38 70 22
Morozov

Why wouldn't he break 40 in the NHL? Players do improve you know. He's been the most dominant player the Russian leagues have seen in a long time--Morozov is consistently over a ppg in a league where virtually no one goes above ppg. This is a one assist league.
Kevin Dallman 53 28 30 58 117 What a superstar we have here!

There are also Jan Marek and Sergey Mozyakin who won the scoring race(Marek 1st in goals 2nd in pts, Mozyakin 1st in points). And both wouldn't even make NHL roster.


You can't just take stats compare Morozov to Jagr and Radulov and say that wow look how good Morozov would be in NHL. Hockey is a bit different in Russia. Then Jagr played for a team that collapsed during this season, partly IMO because his partners were looking only after Jagr(maybe hoped he will win games all by himself?).
And also they had serious problems with defensemen(offensive defensemen included).
Morozov and his line have chemistry and also they've got very good PP unit.

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