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03-16-2004, 07:51 PM
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Why Was Nieuwendyk NOT Suspended?

The way he took down Drury to the ice is as close as you'll get to the Bertuzzi incident. Drury's lucky 7 other players never jumped on him or the severity of the injury could be much worse.

When is the NHL going to start cracking down on cheap shot plays like this? Too many players from Toronto are getting away with garbage moves like this. Isn't it a little obvious that the NHL based the majority of Bertuzzi's suspension on the outcome of Moore's injuries? I sure the h*ll think it does after seeing Nieuwendyk get away with CRAP like this.

I'm a little surprised Sabre fans have not said very much about this incident especially when they've just lost 2 key guys for their playoff hopes


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03-16-2004, 07:59 PM
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The way he took down Drury to the ice is as close as you'll get to the Bertuzzi incident. Drury's lucky 7 other players never jumped on him or the severity of the injury could be much worse.

When is the NHL going to start cracking down on cheap shot plays like this? Too many players from Toronto are getting away with garbage moves like this. Isn't it a little obvious that the NHL based the majority of Bertuzzi's suspension on the outcome of Moore's injuries? I sure the h*ll think it does after seeing Nieuwendyk get away with CRAP like this.
I have a few comments....

If I was a GM or Caoch of every contending team in the East I'd be sending faxes and e-mails in bunches to Colin Campbell and Andy Van and put the pressure on them to not allow the Leafs to get away with garbage like that because it will become more frequent come playoff time....1) You want to protect you players and 2) You want to give yourself the best chance of winning.

As far as the Drury incident goes, if Drury had broken his neck like Moore did the suspension would have been almost as harsh...it was clearly a late hit and it was clearly dirty.

That hit on Drury by Nieuwendyk, and the hit by Drake(STL) on Zhitnik has pretty much killed our playoff hopes...too bad the league doesn't give a snot about the Sabres...

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It's not "THE NHL doesnt' care about the Sabres."

It's "the media doesn't care about the Sabres."

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It's not "THE NHL doesnt' care about the Sabres."

It's "the media doesn't care about the Sabres."

True.

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Doesn't seem like a serious injury to Drury. Don't kid yourself, the seriousness does determine the punishment (NOTE: This is not my opinion, its common knowledge). Moore's injury was hidious enough to attract media attension, the fans attension and the media's attension. If there was talk weeks leading up to Nieuwendyk's attack, then Nieuwendyk blows Drury out and punches him while he's unconcious in a pool of his own blood, would people take notice? You bet.

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I missed it. Can someone give an unbiased, accurate description of what happened?

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Doesn't seem like a serious injury to Drury. Don't kid yourself, the seriousness does determine the punishment (NOTE: This is not my opinion, its common knowledge). Moore's injury was hidious enough to attract media attension, the fans attension and the media's attension. If there was talk weeks leading up to Nieuwendyk's attack, then Nieuwendyk blows Drury out and punches him while he's unconcious in a pool of his own blood, would people take notice? You bet.
If Drury's neck got broken the suspension would have been huge...no matter what the circumstances were.

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Doesn't seem like a serious injury to Drury. Don't kid yourself, the seriousness does determine the punishment (NOTE: This is not my opinion, its common knowledge). Moore's injury was hidious enough to attract media attension, the fans attension and the media's attension. If there was talk weeks leading up to Nieuwendyk's attack, then Nieuwendyk blows Drury out and punches him while he's unconcious in a pool of his own blood, would people take notice? You bet.
Moore's injuries aren't "hideous". People think broken neck, and they picture Moore crippled, paralyzed from the neck down, in a wheelchair for the rest of his life. The truth is, he has 2 minor fractures in his vertebrae and will be skating by the playoffs. I've never seen something overblown by the media as much as this, except maybe the war in Iraq.

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The way he took down Drury to the ice is as close as you'll get to the Bertuzzi incident.

And we've have another.

From now on whenever someone wants to complain about a non-suspension, you no longer have to include the statement "it's just like Bertuzzi's" because we'll just assume.

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And we've have another.

From now on whenever someone wants to complain about a non-suspension, you no longer have to include the statement "it's just like Bertuzzi's" because we'll just assume.
I agree, this is getting incredibly ridiculous. If some people here had their way, Marchment, McCabe, and now Niewendyk would all be suspended for the season along with Todd.

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Too many players from Toronto are getting away with garbage moves like this.
Yeah, that's what it is...

 
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I agree, this is getting incredibly ridiculous. If some people here had their way, Marchment, McCabe, and now Niewendyk would all be suspended for the season along with Todd.
Honestly I don't think it deserved a suspension....

I think it would be a nice tactic by teams like Ottawa, Philly and all other teams battling for the East with TO, to hound the refs about this now, so in the playoffs the refs won't allow it to happen.

If Drury had his neck broken than it would have definetly warranted a suspension, that's why I think it's unfortunate for Bertuzzi (and obviously Moore) that Moore broke his neck...If Moore wasn't seriously injured, Bertuzzi would have gotten a game or two...maybe not even that.

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This thread is about Nieuwendyk, and any more OT posts will get deleted. Try to keep it at least marginally related to the topic at hand. People are a little sick of their threads being turned into yet ANOTHER Bertuzzi discussion.

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The questions was: Why Was Nieuwendyk NOT Suspended?

The answer is: Because the NHL and Mr. Campbell felt that the 2 minutes served during the game was enough.


If you feel it's wrong, take it up with them. E-mail them and media outlets, write letters to NHL head offices and media outlets. If you feel the NHL isn't doing it's job then tell them and people that will listen, if enough people did that then maybe he gets suspended, maybe the league calls a game correctly for the first time in years, you'll spend your time typing up the post and responding to it, but you won't send it to people who could actully care.

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I think its getting kind of ridiculous that Leaf players have been getting away with everything.. first the hit on Koivu Saturday by McCabe after the game ended, now Nieuwendyk knocking Drury's head into the ice... I don't get why these things go unpunished.. (2 minutes to Nieuwendyk for what he did is hardly punishment). And I know I'm a habs fan and all, and people might think that my opinion is biased.. but it isnt. I see the Leafs get away with so much it isnt funny. And I think many others are finally seeing it too.. even leaf fans who laugh about it (I had a leaf fan over saturday night for the game.. and he made jokes about all the non-calls on the leafs because he knew they were penalties).

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The questions was: Why Was Nieuwendyk NOT Suspended?

The answer is: Because the NHL and Mr. Campbell felt that the 2 minutes served during the game was enough.


If you feel it's wrong, take it up with them. E-mail them and media outlets, write letters to NHL head offices and media outlets. If you feel the NHL isn't doing it's job then tell them and people that will listen, if enough people did that then maybe he gets suspended, maybe the league calls a game correctly for the first time in years, you'll spend your time typing up the post and responding to it, but you won't send it to people who could actully care.


That is an EXCELLENT idea, and I wish people around here would take your advice.

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I think its getting kind of ridiculous that Leaf players have been getting away with everything.. first the hit on Koivu Saturday by McCabe after the game ended, now Nieuwendyk knocking Drury's head into the ice... I don't get why these things go unpunished.. (2 minutes to Nieuwendyk for what he did is hardly punishment). And I know I'm a habs fan and all, and people might think that my opinion is biased.. but it isnt. I see the Leafs get away with so much it isnt funny. And I think many others are finally seeing it too.. even leaf fans who laugh about it (I had a leaf fan over saturday night for the game.. and he made jokes about all the non-calls on the leafs because he knew they were penalties).
Yes, it's all a big conspiracy by the league to allow dirty players like Joe Nieuwendyk to avoid suspension to keep their beloved Leafs in the hunt.

Last night Nieuwendyk was hauled down on a 2 on 1 in OT, no call, then 20 seconds later Mogilny gets a ridiculous obstruction call. Where's the anti-Leaf bias?

Truth is, in every game you could pick out one or two hits that are borderline suspension-worthy if you scrutinize super closely.

The Leafs get as much as they give. They're a physical bunch but please stop this "Toronto gets away with everything" BS. Owen Nolan almost had his eye removed by Jay McKee, no call. Ditto Jason Blake on Darcy Tucker. Whatever. It happens.

Why are the never posts whenever players on other teams commit borderline offences?

Oh, right. If it's Toronto it has to be eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevil.


 
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I agree, this is getting incredibly ridiculous. If some people here had their way, Marchment, McCabe, and now Niewendyk would all be suspended for the season along with Todd.
Dont forget Pronger. His kick was almost like the Bertuzzi hit too.

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Isn't it a little obvious that the NHL based the majority of Bertuzzi's suspension on the outcome of Moore's injuries?
Yep. Another reason why the NHL is a complete waste of time.

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The anti-Leaf sentiment on this board is truly disgusting.

Every single thread, no matter what it is about, seems to turn into a Leaf-bashing orgy. Then we have threads like this that are actually about legitimate topics, only to have conspiracy theories thrown in so that the thread can become a parade of Leaf-bashes.

It would be so much easier if we just stickied an official Leaf-bashing thread and let everyone join the orgy in there, so that people who actually want to read something other than that crap can read other threads. Much in the same way the mods made the all-inclusive Bertuzzi thread, we should have one for Leaf-bashing. It seems to be a favourite past-time on here.

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I missed it. Can someone give an unbiased, accurate description of what happened?

NOT VERY ****ING LIKELY~!!! There is too strong a bias against the Leafs for that to happen!


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Yep. Another reason why the NHL is a complete waste of time.
Do you think the law is a complete waste of time?

It judges baesd on the result too.

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Moore's injuries aren't "hideous". People think broken neck, and they picture Moore crippled, paralyzed from the neck down, in a wheelchair for the rest of his life. The truth is, he has 2 minor fractures in his vertebrae and will be skating by the playoffs. I've never seen something overblown by the media as much as this, except maybe the war in Iraq.

I'm sorry...a fracture is a BREAK...they're both the same, when will most of the Nux fans see this?

And I don't think that Moore will be skating by the playoffs, I think he's done for the rest of the season and the playoffs.

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NOthing was wrong with what he did... nor was it remotely dirty!

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Man this incessant whining and overeaction to every single hit "I don't like" is really getting tiring.

Gorw up, play the game, and stop looking for the league or refs to make the world all nice and perfect for your players or teams.

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