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04-02-2009, 09:39 PM
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Kovalev has been our best forward since he's been here!

Since coming over april 2004.

2003-04 playoffs: 1st in goals, 2nd in assists, 2nd in points

2005-06: season 2nd in goals, 2nd in assists, 1st in points (missed 13 games)

2005-06 playoffs: 1st in goals, 2nd in assists, 1st in points

2006-07: season: 6th in goals, 4th in assists,5th in points (missed 9 games)

2007-08 season: 1st in goals, 1st in assists, 1st in points

2007-08 playoffs: 1st in goals, 1st in assists, 1st in points

2008-09 season: 1st in goals, 2nd in assists, 2nd in points

Always Top 2 in everything, everywhere except in his worse season of his carreer in 06-07. Effort or not, he produces consistently,yes i said it, better then anyone else on the team!

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04-02-2009, 09:54 PM
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Iw ould be really disappointed if we don't resign him. Been a huge fan since he came here

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Not to mention that hes been huge in the playoffs also. He and Koivu always carry this team when it counts the most and there proving it right now too.

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lol he did mention it

but yeah, hes still one of very few players that make me go "wow", but this ones wearin a habs jersey

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Unless we know we can replace his production, I'm all for re-signing him. His ups-and-downs are annoying, but the guy's there when it matters the most.

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Like i said in the superstar thread.

If they want to keep Kovalev next year, they better surround him well. Not putting him with youngster and expect him to make that line good by himself. If they dont re-sign, they better sign a guy that can replace Kovy production.

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lol he did mention it

but yeah, hes still one of very few players that make me go "wow", but this ones wearin a habs jersey
Oups youre right haha

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You could easily argue Koivu too though who has basically the exact same PPG as Kovalev over that time. Consistency is word that need not be used though. Koivu and Kovalev both tend to lead the team stretches at a time which is why Montreal is a bubble team.

Best and most consistent player in general though is easily Markov.

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04-02-2009, 10:37 PM
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Since coming over april 2004.

2003-04 playoffs: 1st in goals, 2nd in assists, 2nd in points

2005-06: season 2nd in goals, 2nd in assists, 1st in points (missed 13 games)

2005-06 playoffs: 1st in goals, 2nd in assists, 1st in points

2006-07: season: 6th in goals, 4th in assists,5th in points (missed 9 games)

2007-08 season: 1st in goals, 1st in assists, 1st in points

2007-08 playoffs: 1st in goals, 1st in assists, 1st in points

2008-09 season: 1st in goals, 2nd in assists, 2nd in points

Always Top 2 in everything, everywhere except in his worse season of his carreer in 06-07. Effort or not, he produces consistently,yes i said it, better then anyone else on the team!
This definitely puts to light our failure to find a true top talent up front through trades or free agency. It must be remedied for next season!

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will be seen as bandwaggoning, but I've never said a bad word about the guy, always defended him (which I guess will be seen as nearsightedness). Imagine the last 5 years without him! He's a star player and almost everyone says that he is the most talented player in the NHL (skills, obviously not production necessarily). Love Kovy and glad that he's having a good stretch. He loves to play in Montreal and doesn't complain about the pressure, unlike a certain Chris Higgins (wtf was that pre-game mini interview with Pierre? Always makes a sarcastic comment about high expectations here. you'd think he'd know growing up a habs fan)

and I do agree, in their various roles, Koivu and Markov have been equal

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Well he sure is turning his season around at the good time! Its nice to see him back to form : 11 pts in the last 5 games!

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This definitely puts to light our failure to find a true top talent up front through trades or free agency. It must be remedied for next season!
Not saying it's going to happen, but I'm curious, would you like Kovalev if hypothetically, he'd lead us to a SC win?..
Don't think it'll happen, but just out of curiosity..

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Since coming over april 2004.

2003-04 playoffs: 1st in goals, 2nd in assists, 2nd in points

2005-06: season 2nd in goals, 2nd in assists, 1st in points (missed 13 games)

2005-06 playoffs: 1st in goals, 2nd in assists, 1st in points

2006-07: season: 6th in goals, 4th in assists,5th in points (missed 9 games)

2007-08 season: 1st in goals, 1st in assists, 1st in points

2007-08 playoffs: 1st in goals, 1st in assists, 1st in points

2008-09 season: 1st in goals, 2nd in assists, 2nd in points

Always Top 2 in everything, everywhere except in his worse season of his carreer in 06-07. Effort or not, he produces consistently,yes i said it, better then anyone else on the team!
Is anyone surprised? I can't get over how much opposition there was to Gainey's trading for him and giving up so little to get him. Now I'm astonished at the fans who want to get rid of him.

What the OP doesn't mention is that Kovalev has been the Habs' best or second best playoff performer as well.

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Not saying it's going to happen, but I'm curious, would you like Kovalev if hypothetically, he'd lead us to a SC win?..
Don't think it'll happen, but just out of curiosity..
He will not. Asterix will give the credit on any other player except Kovalev. You should know that.

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He will not. Asterix will give the credit on any other player except Kovalev. You should know that.
And even if he won the Conn Smythe, I'm sure

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He will not. Asterix will give the credit on any other player except Kovalev. You should know that.
What if he gets the Conn Smythe then?

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Is anyone surprised? I can't get over how much opposition there was to Gainey's trading for him and giving up so little to get him. Now I'm astonished at the fans who want to get rid of him.

What the OP doesn't mention is that Kovalev has been the Habs' best or second best playoff performer as well.
They want him gone in place of a real superstar.

And he's tied for goals this year. Kovalev is technically 2nd. Kostitsyn has as many in fewer games, plus his name comes before his. Though, the way that line is playing, next game Kovy will probably score and take over the lead.

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They want him gone in place of a real superstar.

And he's tied for goals this year. Kovalev is technically 2nd. Kostitsyn has as many in fewer games, plus his name comes before his. Though, the way that line is playing, next game Kovy will probably score and take over the lead.
The way AKost is sleepwalking, Kovalev will leave him in the dust.

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What happend to all the Kovalev bashers?

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What happend to all the Kovalev bashers?
Oh they'll be back for Kovy Haters vs Kovy Fanboys round 5436....

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This definitely puts to light our failure to find a true top talent up front through trades or free agency. It must be remedied for next season!
Problem is... its hard to find top talent in trades or free-agency. You either wind up with a guy who isn't worth the money or somebody who's past his prime.

Teams don't usually let superstars go in their prime. It happens rarely (Roy and Thorton) but you can't count on it.

If you want a superstar, the best way is to draft one. Then you get the benefit of developing him yourself and you get him throughout his prime.

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What if he gets the Conn Smythe then?
Asterix will become a good poster.

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I don't want Kovalev back if he's not going to simplify his game

Gainey said he would have to simplify his game

HE HAS

He's producing like he was last year... why? He's using his linemates, something he hadn't done all season. He's also not trying to beat 3-4 people 6 times a game... it only happens once or twice now

It's the way he played and preferential treatment he received from Carbo that was wrong!. At the time I didn't think Carbo would be gone, so if Carbo couldn't "manage" Kovalev then the latter would have to leave.

Carbo is gone... this means alot of different things that would not have happened under Carbo can now Happen


Can people not understand specific reasons for a decision such as "Trade Kovalev" rather then throw everyone who wants to "trade Kovalev" in the same boat?

Like we all agreed as to why he should be gone?


And yes he has been one of our best forwards year after year. Have u seen his competition?

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I don't want Kovalev back if he's not going to simplify his game

Gainey said he would have to simplify his game

HE HAS

He's producing like he was last year... why? He's using his linemates, something he hadn't done all season. He's also not trying to beat 3-4 people 6 times a game... it only happens once or twice now

It's the way he played and preferential treatment he received from Carbo that was wrong!. At the time I didn't think Carbo would be gone, so if Carbo couldn't "manage" Kovalev then the latter would have to leave.

Carbo is gone... this means alot of different things that would not have happened under Carbo can now Happen


Can people not understand specific reasons for a decision such as "Trade Kovalev" rather then throw everyone who wants to "trade Kovalev" in the same boat?

Like we all agreed as to why he should be gone?


And yes he has been one of our best forwards year after year. Have u seen his competition?
Do you think that might have something to do with the fact that Kovalev now actually trusts his line mates?

The only time I notice Kovalev trying to beat 3 or 4 players is when his line isn't doing well. This isn't a problem now that he's been paired with Koivu and Tanguay, so there is less need for Kovalev to do too much.

Last year the line of Kovalev, Plekanec and A.Kostitsyn played well because he had confidence in both . IMO this year he lost the confidence in those two, and felt he had to do too much to help compensate for that line.

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