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04-05-2009, 01:14 PM
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drury ... powerplay

how does drury, a 12 year veteran, who has played on some very good teams, sit back and not take charge...


game after game the powerplay has been by far the biggest disappointment/difference in the success of the rangers...

you're the captain of this team, you don't have a design of some sort you remember from all the years you have been in the league?


to me a so called "clutch player" always has something up his sleave


take charge for goodness sake !

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04-05-2009, 01:19 PM
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He leads the team in PP goals and points.

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Having watched Drury play for a long time, my sense is that he is holding his stick awfully tight right now. He's feeling the pressure.

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Drury brings nothing to this team. He hasn't been clutch for 2 years. He's not a sniper. He can't carry the puck. His leadership skills are iffy at best. He can't even consistently win faceoffs. At this point even his highly touted "intangibles" are second-rate.

This guy collects a paycheck for wearing a blue sweater. Get this chump out of here.

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Why not throw a different look out there and see how some other players run it?

Avery, Antropov, Korpikoski

Korpikoski's got a laser

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This team lacks any sort of skill. The PP is where your skilled players are supposed to take charge, name me, please, one player on this team who is as skilled as most teams entire PP units. Zherdev is the only one who is a possible answer and he is incredibly inconsistent.

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I was pretty pissed when both he and Gomez were on the PP at the end of yesterdays game for so long.

Split them up.

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04-05-2009, 01:28 PM
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He leads the team in PP goals and points.
did i hear that we're 3 for the last 40 on the pp?

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I don't think it's fair to blame any one player for the power play. They all suck equally.

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The main problem I have with the powerplay is how lazy it is. There is no movement, they put no pressure on the penalty killers.

If you watch closely every team in the NHL plays the Rangers the same way on the powerplay, and that's high pressure on the dmen on the point. Why do other teams do this? It's easy for them to cut down passing angles from the point when NONE of the forward players are moving.

When they start moving, you'll see results.

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did i hear that we're 3 for the last 40 on the pp?
Well youre asking for Drury specifically to step up, and Im simply pointing out that hes been the best of the worst.

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You need to have skill. That is why Pittsburgh and other teams like that are good on the PP. They have Crosby, Malkin, Gonchar running the PP and therefore are going to score a lot. Drury is no Crosby, Gomez is no Malkin, and no one has a shot like Gonchar. We need skill. This team is garbage and will go no where without some actual players, so give it up. There trying, they really are, do you think there just not even bothering here in the last couple games? HELL NO, they are trying. They just suck. End of story.

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Drury brings nothing to this team. He hasn't been clutch for 2 years. He's not a sniper. He can't carry the puck. His leadership skills are iffy at best. He can't even consistently win faceoffs. At this point even his highly touted "intangibles" are second-rate.

This guy collects a paycheck for wearing a blue sweater. Get this chump out of here.
With all due respect to the fact he is struggling, how exactly would you know this???

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You need to have skill. That is why Pittsburgh and other teams like that are good on the PP. They have Crosby, Malkin, Gonchar running the PP and therefore are going to score a lot. Drury is no Crosby, Gomez is no Malkin, and no one has a shot like Gonchar. We need skill. This team is garbage and will go no where without some actual players, so give it up. There trying, they really are, do you think there just not even bothering here in the last couple games? HELL NO, they are trying. They just suck. End of story.
Pittsburgh is 16.9% on the PP, good for 23rd in the league. The PP isn't about individual skill, it's about execution.

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With all due respect to the fact he is struggling, how exactly would you know this???
When Renney was canned, I believe he either did an interview or was quoted in the news as saying he thought Drury would have stepped up and been more of a leader than he was. I interpreted that as Drury is a leader, but not much of one. Hence the iffy at best part.

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I don't think it's fair to blame any one player for the power play. They all suck equally.
This.

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Pittsburgh is 16.9% on the PP, good for 23rd in the league. The PP isn't about individual skill, it's about execution.
With Gonchar back they have been on fire.....it was a bit of a jump from last year when they were able to have Hossa and Malone out there with Gonchar, Crosby and Malkin where as this season they had only Malkin and Crosby for a while.

A beter example is the Habs, or the Sabres, or the Caps. Teams who build around skill seem to have better PP's.

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With Gonchar back they have been on fire.....it was a bit of a jump from last year when they were able to have Hossa and Malone out there with Gonchar, Crosby and Malkin where as this season they had only Malkin and Crosby for a while.

A beter example is the Habs, or the Sabres, or the Caps. Teams who build around skill seem to have better PP's.
Actually, what that proves is that teams need a good PP quarterback, which we know we don't have. Put Gonchar on this team and I'd bet our PP would be better too.

But it still comes down to execution. Look at Minnesota. They've scored 202 goals this year, 1 more than us in the same amount of games. Yet their PP is 19.4%. And that's with Gaborik only having 3 PP points in 13 games played. Minus Gaborik, their offensive talent is no better than ours, yet they are much more successful on the PP.

Scoring on the PP is about exploiting the fact that you have an extra man by creating a 2 on 1 somewhere on the ice. But that never seems to be our MO. We just try to get open shots from the point and hope for a deflection or a rebound.

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Drury made his living on the PP picking up junk around the net while playing on the left side (at least I believe that to be the case). Get pucks on net with nice rebounds to the side, and he'll score a bit more, assuming he's playing that position. Get the puck to him more so he can use his one-timer from the off-wing, and perhaps he would score more. I used the same argument with Prucha last season, so it's only fair I use it today. What needs to be figured out is how to get the PP moving so the puck can get across to him to shoot. As well, who on this team is capable of making such a pass.

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Drury.. take charge. Please tell me your joking.

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This team lacks any sort of skill. The PP is where your skilled players are supposed to take charge, name me, please, one player on this team who is as skilled as most teams entire PP units. Zherdev is the only one who is a possible answer and he is incredibly inconsistent.
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Drury made his living on the PP picking up junk around the net while playing on the left side (at least I believe that to be the case). Get pucks on net with nice rebounds to the side, and he'll score a bit more, assuming he's playing that position. Get the puck to him more so he can use his one-timer from the off-wing, and perhaps he would score more. I used the same argument with Prucha last season, so it's only fair I use it today. What needs to be figured out is how to get the PP moving so the puck can get across to him to shoot. As well, who on this team is capable of making such a pass.


thank you fletch, this is what i was eluding to..

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The main problem I have with the powerplay is how lazy it is. There is no movement, they put no pressure on the penalty killers.

If you watch closely every team in the NHL plays the Rangers the same way on the powerplay, and that's high pressure on the dmen on the point. Why do other teams do this? It's easy for them to cut down passing angles from the point when NONE of the forward players are moving.

When they start moving, you'll see results.
^ Perfect. Our forwards don't move, they create zero havoc, they open no lanes, they don't out-number anyone in front of the net because two of them are always on the perimeter ... they basically do nothing. They add a lot more pressure to the point men.

We have an easy PP to play against, and even when we're up two men it's relatively non-threatening. If we could, we'd be almost better off declining the penalty in most cases, at least 5-on-5 our forwards (usually) move when they're in the offensive zone.

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