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04-08-2009, 12:33 PM
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EDM-PIT blockbuster

To PIT: Hemsky, Gagner, (choice of) Grebeshkov/Gilbert, 1st 09 (8th-10th overall)

To EDM: Crosby

Why PIT might do it: Because this team could improve its chances of being a perrenial Stanley cup finalist with a better supporting cast. Consider that with Crosby in tow, they have 40mil tied up in 7 players next year (Crosby, Malkin, Gonchar, Orpik, Staal, Kunitz, MAF). If the cap is 55mil next year, thats 15mil for the remaining 16players that make up the active roster. No doubt that is an impressive core, but leaves little money for a championship calibre supporting cast (See Red Wings, Detroit). Hemsky is a lock for 85-90pts playing with Malkin. Gagner has put the sophomore jinx to rest with a stellar second half. Grebeshkov would look great playing with Gonchar. 1st line RW, 19yr old top 6 F, and a Dman that would be (at worst) a #3 on the Pens (37pts and +10). Now they only need 14 players with 15mil remaining and less big needs (top 4 D now filled, 1 less top 6 F needed).

Why EDM might do it: Because Crosby is a top 5 player in the game. The deal includes significant risks (Hemsky should really blossom playing with players of equal/greater talent, the deal is a slight overpayment, a lot of money tied up in one player), but Katz has to do something to pacify a rabid fan base that - despite missing the playoffs for a 3rd yr in a row - is likely facing another increase in ticket pricing. Another risk of course is he's only guaranteed to be here for 4 yrs when he becomes a UFA.

I really don't know if I could pull the trigger on a deal like this from either team's perspective. Thoughts?

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I think this would make it 4 straight...

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I don't think the Pens need your help.

Keep building around Hemsky, Gagner, Grebeshkov/Gilbert, 1st 09 (8th-10th overall) Those are quality assets for your team and we'll keep Crosby and we'll be fine despite what all the prophets of doom post on this board.

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04-08-2009, 01:13 PM
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better proposal:

to pitts;
penner/horcoff/nilsson

to edmonton:
crosby/malkin

reasoning:
in nhl 09 i did this and the computer accepted the trade so it should work, also it lets pitts load up on underachieving wingers and gives them horcoff who could mentor staal into becoming an overpaid grinder...

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better proposal:

to pitts;
penner/horcoff/nilsson

to edmonton:
crosby/malkin

reasoning:
in nhl 09 i did this and the computer accepted the trade so it should work, also it lets pitts load up on underachieving wingers and gives them horcoff who could mentor staal into becoming an overpaid grinder...
umm. .Edmonton would have to throw in a 2nd round pick. . but other than that i like it!!

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better proposal:

to pitts;
penner/horcoff/nilsson

to edmonton:
crosby/malkin

reasoning:
in nhl 09 i did this and the computer accepted the trade so it should work, also it lets pitts load up on underachieving wingers and gives them horcoff who could mentor staal into becoming an overpaid grinder...
When I was playing NHL 08 I traded Kubina and a 1st for Ovechkin

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When I was playing NHL 08 I traded Kubina and a 1st for Ovechkin
Wow! i didnt know ove's value was that high!

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One thing I've learned on HF is that when a fake trade proposal has "Blockbuster" in the title it's going to suck real bad.

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04-08-2009, 01:44 PM
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How about this instead

To Edmonton:

Sidney Crosby
Blueprints for Delorian Time Machine

To Pittsburgh:

Wayne Gretzky circa 1988
Conditional 1st 2009
Robert Nilsson

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How about this instead

To Edmonton:

Sidney Crosby
Blueprints for Delorian Time Machine

To Pittsburgh:

Wayne Gretzky circa 1988
Conditional 1st 2009
Robert Nilsson
whats the condition on the 1st?

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whats the condition on the 1st?
I was wondering the same thing! tell us!

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Why EDM might do it: Because Crosby is a top 5 player in the game. The deal includes significant risks (Hemsky should really blossom playing with players of equal/greater talent, the deal is a slight overpayment, a lot of money tied up in one player), but Katz has to do something to pacify a rabid fan base that - despite missing the playoffs for a 3rd yr in a row - is likely facing another increase in ticket pricing. Another risk of course is he's only guaranteed to be here for 4 yrs when he becomes a UFA.
The bolded part right there should be the reason why this deal shouldn't happen. It is far too risky for the Oilers. I mean, it is a massive overpayment for them, and they are losing Ales Hemsky who is going to be a perennial all-star one day. I don't know why the Oilers should invest that much in Sidney Crosby. They'd have no depth by making this deal.

Stay away Oilers!!!!



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One thing I've learned on HF is that when a fake trade proposal has "Blockbuster" in the title it's going to suck real bad.
haha yup! thats how it is round here!

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whats the condition on the 1st?
Pittsburgh gets the 1st if they can get Marty McFly's parents back together *without* giving Biff Tanner the sports almanac.

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The bolded part right there should be the reason why this deal shouldn't happen. It is far too risky for the Oilers. I mean, it is a massive overpayment for them, and they are losing Ales Hemsky who is going to be a perennial all-star one day. I don't know why the Oilers should invest that much in Sidney Crosby. They'd have no depth by making this deal.

Stay away Oilers!!!!


Ya, and plus giving up a decent 1st rounder in such a deep draft is just plain stupid. That sydney crosby guy isnt worth that alone. Let alone Ales Hemsky, a top 10 player in the league.

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04-08-2009, 02:24 PM
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Add Malkin and maybe Edmonton considers it.

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04-08-2009, 02:52 PM
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Its been a long, long season for suffering Oilers fans.

Hemsky, Gagner, Gilbert cap hit, 9.75 million

Crosby cap hit 8.7 million.

If your going to sell a deal on cap savings, might actually want to consider the salary of the guys your trading.

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Pittsburgh gets the 1st if they can get Marty McFly's parents back together *without* giving Biff Tanner the sports almanac.
Well, if Pitt gets the time machine, they can get the sports almanac, make billions on sports betting. Mario, can then buy the Oilers, trade Crosby to himself (back to the Pens) and have twice as many pics in each draft year.

I think Pitt needs to look at the long term value of this trade, and pull the trigger.

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To Edmonton:

Mario Lemieux

To Pittsburgh:

Wayne Gretzky

Fair?

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Somehow I don't see the Penguins brass thinking to themselves "We could really use an upgrade on defense and some more good young players...I know! Let's trade one of the top 5 players in the world who's still 7-9 years from his prime to make it happen!!".

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To PIT: Hemsky, Gagner, (choice of) Grebeshkov/Gilbert, 1st 09 (8th-10th overall)

To EDM: Crosby

Why PIT might do it: Because this team could improve its chances of being a perrenial Stanley cup finalist with a better supporting cast. Consider that with Crosby in tow, they have 40mil tied up in 7 players next year (Crosby, Malkin, Gonchar, Orpik, Staal, Kunitz, MAF). If the cap is 55mil next year, thats 15mil for the remaining 16players that make up the active roster. No doubt that is an impressive core, but leaves little money for a championship calibre supporting cast (See Red Wings, Detroit). Hemsky is a lock for 85-90pts playing with Malkin. Gagner has put the sophomore jinx to rest with a stellar second half. Grebeshkov would look great playing with Gonchar. 1st line RW, 19yr old top 6 F, and a Dman that would be (at worst) a #3 on the Pens (37pts and +10). Now they only need 14 players with 15mil remaining and less big needs (top 4 D now filled, 1 less top 6 F needed).

Why EDM might do it: Because Crosby is a top 5 player in the game. The deal includes significant risks (Hemsky should really blossom playing with players of equal/greater talent, the deal is a slight overpayment, a lot of money tied up in one player), but Katz has to do something to pacify a rabid fan base that - despite missing the playoffs for a 3rd yr in a row - is likely facing another increase in ticket pricing. Another risk of course is he's only guaranteed to be here for 4 yrs when he becomes a UFA.

I really don't know if I could pull the trigger on a deal like this from either team's perspective. Thoughts?


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