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05-06-2009, 10:37 PM
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Edmonton/San Jose

To Edmonton:

Joe Thornton
Brad Lukowich
Conditional 3rd Round pick 2010 if Penner surpasses 60 points


To San Jose:

Jordan Eberle
2nd Round Pick, 2009
Dustin Penner
Jeff Petry/Riley Nash (choose one)
Rights to Linus Omark

-Edmonton needs a complementary player to Ales Hemsky, and Jumbo Joe adds size and soft hands to Edmonton's first line. IMO the key to a playoff birth is igniting Ales, and Thornton would be a great fit.

-Tambellini wants to get bigger, and Lukowich is a solid stay-at-home dman

-San Jose is a team that lacks size up front, and Penner brings that to the table, and it wouldn't be surprising AT ALL to see him increase his point production with the Sharks under Todd McLellan

-The Sharks don't have a great farm system, and Eberle is a goal-scorer who needs just a year or two before becoming a regular in the NHL. Won't be a Superstar, but should get 25-40 goals and 60-80 points in his prime IMO

-Both Petry and Nash are solid prospects, Nash being more of a two-way threat. Petry, like Eberle was a Top75 prospect in a poll conducted by THN

-We've all seen the goals Linus Omark has scored in Europe. Even though he's under contract in the KHL for the next couple of seasons, he's still an asset and he still could come to North America

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05-06-2009, 10:52 PM
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I feel sorry for the abuse you are about to receive.

that package in no way lands you big Joe, adding Penner is just making it ridiculously in Edmonton's favor.

Joe Thornton may choke in the playoffs but he at least helps his team make the playoffs and dominate in the regular season.

Penner just costs too much and everything else you add is unproven.

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05-06-2009, 10:55 PM
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Thanks for that

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05-06-2009, 10:56 PM
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Hey.. I read your last name and I was wondering if you're Ismaili? I'm talking to the thread starter. Also noticed the 786 in the username .

Anyways, I don't like the proposal. You can't get a guy like Thornton for just prospects because like clayton said, they are not proven.

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Heh...San Jose doesn't touch Penner's contract even with a 10 ft. pole.

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lol...

Penner is basically a more expensive Ryane Clowe.

and then you throw in luko too? haha.

Of course you'd make the playoffs with Thornton...You could trade hemsky for thornton and make the playoffs. Except you'd still need to package even more on top of hemsky to make a thornton trade worthwhile so perhaps you wouldn't make it. Thornton elevates the game of average players into good players, good players into great players, and great players into amazing players. Now why would a guy like that be traded for another clowe-like player and some prospects that may or may not become scorers?

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Thornton and Rick Nash is a great fit, Thornton and Hemsky is not. Who's the playmaker now? Both? That aint gonna work well.

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Now why would a guy like that be traded for another clowe-like player and some prospects that may or may not become scorers?
Because he's a modern-day Marcel Dionne?

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drugs are bad.
Penner is staying as an Oiler with his terrible contract.

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Because he's a modern-day Marcel Dionne?
this confuses me

do i sense internet sarcasm?

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-San Jose is a team that lacks size up front, and Penner brings that to the table, and it wouldn't be surprising AT ALL to see him increase his point production with the Sharks under Todd McLellan
Huh??

Thornton = 6'4, 235 lbs
Marleau = 6'2, 220 lbs
Michalek = 6'2, 225 lbs
Clowe = 6'2, 225 lbs
Setoguchi = 6'0, 200 lbs
Pavelski = 5'11, 195 lbs

Pavelski is the only player under 6 feet tall. And outside of Seto, the rest of the Sharks forwards are bigger than average I would say.

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Huh??

Thornton = 6'4, 235 lbs
Marleau = 6'2, 220 lbs
Michalek = 6'2, 225 lbs
Clowe = 6'2, 225 lbs
Setoguchi = 6'0, 200 lbs
Pavelski = 5'11, 195 lbs

Pavelski is the only player under 6 feet tall. And outside of Seto, the rest of the Sharks forwards are bigger than average I would say.
Well, to be fair they play like they're 5'5

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I feel sorry for the abuse you are about to receive.

that package in no way lands you big Joe, adding Penner is just making it ridiculously in Edmonton's favor.

Joe Thornton may choke in the playoffs but he at least helps his team make the playoffs and dominate in the regular season.

Penner just costs too much and everything else you add is unproven.
gotta love it when the oilker fans are the one shooting down a deal the win in a walk.

I think for the sharks to consider it you are looking at

Gagner
Eberle
Petry
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gotta love it when the oilker fans are the one shooting down a deal the win in a walk.

I think for the sharks to consider it you are looking at

Gagner
Eberle
Petry
1st
You're probably right but that's a lot to give up for 2 years of Thornton. Considering his playoff performances, the fact that we'd have to dump salary somewhere else just to fit him under the cap and he most likely wouldn't lead us to a cup, I'd rather just wait out the four young players and hope for the best.

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this confuses me

do i sense internet sarcasm?
Marcel Dionne is considered one of the best regular-season performers of all-time. He had 1771 points in 1348 games (1.31 PPG). During his career, he had eight 100 point seasons.

But in the playoffs, he was a completely different player. He never won a Cup, and had 45 points in 49 career playoff games (0.96 PPG).

In comparison, since joining San Jose, Thornton has scored at a 1.28 PPG clip in the regular season. In 41 playoff games during that same time span, he has 35 points (0.85 PPG).

Thornton is also considered a- to put it lightly- very different player during the post-season. Like Dionne, he's never even been to a Conference Finals.

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