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Purinton Discussion........
Now before I begin, I just wanna say that ever since DP was originally called up (4 years ago..??) I have been a definite supporter of him.
Up until we signed Simon, I had always maintained that we never really had a legit heavyweight contender, so I was always glad to see Dale get ice-time, and mix it up.
But....
I gotta say that I'm quickly losing my admiration (and respect) for him.
Lately all his fights have been based on sucker punches or getting the jump on a guy when he's not looking. Now I realize that everything happens so fast and we, the fans, dont know what players say to each other on the ice...but this is definitely a pattern w/him (i.e...the Cairns and Doull incidents....along with a few other recent fights).
Take a look at this fight clip....(against Lessard)....watch the end of the clip to see what I'm talking about:
Now compare that with the fight between Barnaby and Brad Ference in the Avs/Phoenix game. Matt took off his own helmet...waited for Ferrence to take his off (Ference wears a shield) and then went at it with him. A LOT more respectable if you ask me.
Here's the clip of that fight....(nice win for Barnaby)...
(you might have to register over there to view the clips)
Anyways...I really hate to say it (because I've been such a big fan of his)....but I'm not much of a DP fan anymore. He's an average defenceman (at best) and then we have to ask ourselves....is he even that good of a fighter?
Now before I begin, I just wanna say that ever since DP was originally called up (4 years ago..??) I have been a definite supporter of him.
Up until we signed Simon, I had always maintained that we never really had a legit heavyweight contender, so I was always glad to see Dale get ice-time, and mix it up.
But....
I gotta say that I'm quickly losing my admiration (and respect) for him.
Lately all his fights have been based on sucker punches or getting the jump on a guy when he's not looking. Now I realize that everything happens so fast and we, the fans, dont know what players say to each other on the ice...but this is definitely a pattern w/him (i.e...the Cairns and Doull incidents....along with a few other recent fights).
Take a look at this fight clip....(against Lessard)....watch the end of the clip to see what I'm talking about:
Now compare that with the fight between Barnaby and Brad Ference in the Avs/Phoenix game. Matt took off his own helmet...waited for Ferrence to take his off (Ference wears a shield) and then went at it with him. A LOT more respectable if you ask me.
Here's the clip of that fight....(nice win for Barnaby)...
(you might have to register over there to view the clips)
Anyways...I really hate to say it (because I've been such a big fan of his)....but I'm not much of a DP fan anymore. He's an average defenceman (at best) and then we have to ask ourselves....is he even that good of a fighter?
Bring back Barnaby.
i agree except i never liked purrinton to begin with.. how many stupid penalties has he taken in his career.. aside from that decent few months he had playing d where he actually held his own quite well he has been a negative
Now before I begin, I just wanna say that ever since DP was originally called up (4 years ago..??) I have been a definite supporter of him.
Up until we signed Simon, I had always maintained that we never really had a legit heavyweight contender, so I was always glad to see Dale get ice-time, and mix it up.
But....
I gotta say that I'm quickly losing my admiration (and respect) for him.
Lately all his fights have been based on sucker punches or getting the jump on a guy when he's not looking. Now I realize that everything happens so fast and we, the fans, dont know what players say to each other on the ice...but this is definitely a pattern w/him (i.e...the Cairns and Doull incidents....along with a few other recent fights).
Take a look at this fight clip....(against Lessard)....watch the end of the clip to see what I'm talking about:
Now compare that with the fight between Barnaby and Brad Ference in the Avs/Phoenix game. Matt took off his own helmet...waited for Ferrence to take his off (Ference wears a shield) and then went at it with him. A LOT more respectable if you ask me.
Here's the clip of that fight....(nice win for Barnaby)...
(you might have to register over there to view the clips)
Anyways...I really hate to say it (because I've been such a big fan of his)....but I'm not much of a DP fan anymore. He's an average defenceman (at best) and then we have to ask ourselves....is he even that good of a fighter?
Bring back Barnaby.
absolutely agree!! i've been very disappointed witth dale back to doull fight, where he jumped him too! anybody who's been on this board for the three-four years knows i was a dale supporter from a while back and i can't defend him any more! he ran from eric cairns, jumped doull and suckered lessard. not to metion his questionable attack on cairns the game before he ran and hide from cairns. he is not that good defensively and has become more of a liability than a asset to this club. when griener ready to play for the big club dale has to go! sorry dale, but not sticking up for yourself is a cowardly thing to do, and i don't root for cowards!!
I too was a big supporter of DP but I lost ALL respect for Dale when he refused to fight cairns. we didnt need the two points for the playoff race, he needed to be a man and fight cairns. absolute coward.
Purinton's not an NHL defenseman and now that he's proven he's not that good a fighter and we have other options (Grenier, Barnaby/Simon in FA this year) theres not need for Purinton. He's too slow, too undisciplined and gets too tired on long shifts which basically become a PP for the other team after 45 secs of him on the ice because he gets so tired he cant move or play the puck, thus making him useless!
Purinton's not an NHL defenseman and now that he's proven he's not that good a fighter and we have other options (Grenier, Barnaby/Simon in FA this year) theres not need for Purinton. He's too slow, too undisciplined and gets too tired on long shifts which basically become a PP for the other team after 45 secs of him on the ice because he gets so tired he cant move or play the puck, thus making him useless!
YOU ARE ALL QUICK TO KNOCK HIM OK HE SUCKERED CAIRNS BUT CAIRNS ALSO PUNCHED RUCINSKY IN THE FACE THAT GAME FOR NO REASON THATS BEING COWARDLY SO WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND DONT LIKE DALE THAT MUCH NOT REALLY A FIT IN THE LINEUP BUT NEVER DISLIKED THE GUY... SO U ALL SHOULD LOOK AT BOTH SIDES OF THE MIRROR B4 YAPPING IVE SEEN HIM SQUARE OFF 100% FAIR AGAINST GUYS LIKE BRASHEAR AND WORREL AND OTHERS AND HANDLE HIS OWN HE CAN FIGHT . SO STOP KNOCKING THE GUY. YOU ARE NOT IN THE SITUATION T5HESE GUYS ARE IN SO U ALL SHOULD THINK B4 U TALK
YOU ARE ALL QUICK TO KNOCK HIM OK HE SUCKERED CAIRNS BUT CAIRNS ALSO PUNCHED RUCINSKY IN THE FACE THAT GAME FOR NO REASON THATS BEING COWARDLY SO WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND DONT LIKE DALE THAT MUCH NOT REALLY A FIT IN THE LINEUP BUT NEVER DISLIKED THE GUY... SO U ALL SHOULD LOOK AT BOTH SIDES OF THE MIRROR B4 YAPPING IVE SEEN HIM SQUARE OFF 100% FAIR AGAINST GUYS LIKE BRASHEAR AND WORREL AND OTHERS AND HANDLE HIS OWN HE CAN FIGHT . SO STOP KNOCKING THE GUY. YOU ARE NOT IN THE SITUATION T5HESE GUYS ARE IN SO U ALL SHOULD THINK B4 U TALK
YOU ARE ALL QUICK TO KNOCK HIM OK HE SUCKERED CAIRNS BUT CAIRNS ALSO PUNCHED RUCINSKY IN THE FACE THAT GAME FOR NO REASON THATS BEING COWARDLY SO WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND DONT LIKE DALE THAT MUCH NOT REALLY A FIT IN THE LINEUP BUT NEVER DISLIKED THE GUY... SO U ALL SHOULD LOOK AT BOTH SIDES OF THE MIRROR B4 YAPPING IVE SEEN HIM SQUARE OFF 100% FAIR AGAINST GUYS LIKE BRASHEAR AND WORREL AND OTHERS AND HANDLE HIS OWN HE CAN FIGHT . SO STOP KNOCKING THE GUY. YOU ARE NOT IN THE SITUATION T5HESE GUYS ARE IN SO U ALL SHOULD THINK B4 U TALK
well maybe you should take a look at it too then? what was the excuse for jumping doull and lessard? i've been a big supporter of dales since he was with the wolfpack! i don't like the way he's handled himself the past year! i'm sure we could find a ton of other guys that will do a better job than dale! by the way, must you use caps?
YOU ARE ALL QUICK TO KNOCK HIM OK HE SUCKERED CAIRNS BUT CAIRNS ALSO PUNCHED RUCINSKY IN THE FACE THAT GAME FOR NO REASON THATS BEING COWARDLY SO WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND DONT LIKE DALE THAT MUCH NOT REALLY A FIT IN THE LINEUP BUT NEVER DISLIKED THE GUY... SO U ALL SHOULD LOOK AT BOTH SIDES OF THE MIRROR B4 YAPPING IVE SEEN HIM SQUARE OFF 100% FAIR AGAINST GUYS LIKE BRASHEAR AND WORREL AND OTHERS AND HANDLE HIS OWN HE CAN FIGHT . SO STOP KNOCKING THE GUY. YOU ARE NOT IN THE SITUATION T5HESE GUYS ARE IN SO U ALL SHOULD THINK B4 U TALK
Hahaha thanks for the laugh. When trying to make a point, you really should try and use better grammar and lose the whole capital lock deal. All you do is shoot yourself in the face while trying to argue like this.
I hope Grenier get's a loook-see next season as a replacement for Purinton. I always gave him the benefit of the doubt because he was somewhat young. I was hoping he would develop, but I think he's had enough time to develop and has proven what he's capable of. I think he'd make a decent AHLer/occasional call-up.
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YOU ARE ALL QUICK TO KNOCK HIM OK HE SUCKERED CAIRNS BUT CAIRNS ALSO PUNCHED RUCINSKY IN THE FACE THAT GAME FOR NO REASON THATS BEING COWARDLY SO WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND DONT LIKE DALE THAT MUCH NOT REALLY A FIT IN THE LINEUP BUT NEVER DISLIKED THE GUY... SO U ALL SHOULD LOOK AT BOTH SIDES OF THE MIRROR B4 YAPPING IVE SEEN HIM SQUARE OFF 100% FAIR AGAINST GUYS LIKE BRASHEAR AND WORREL AND OTHERS AND HANDLE HIS OWN HE CAN FIGHT . SO STOP KNOCKING THE GUY. YOU ARE NOT IN THE SITUATION T5HESE GUYS ARE IN SO U ALL SHOULD THINK B4 U TALK
ok... I HOPE GRENIER GETS A LOOKSEE NEXT SEASON AS A REPLACEMENT FOR PURINTON I ALWAYS GAVE HIM THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT BECAUSE HE WAS SOMEWHAT YOUNG I WAS HOPING HE WOULD DEVELOP BUT I THINK HE'S HAD ENOUGH TIME TO DEVELOP AND HAS PROVEN WHAT HES CAPABLE OF I THINK HELL MAKE A DCENT AHLER AND OCCASIONAL CALL UP.
At first , I thought Purinton was just what we needed , Someone to clear the front of net and to play an overall tough game and keep the other teams honest .
Now he turtles in fights , thinks he's Leetch with the puck and is almost a guaranteed 1st 2 minute minor of the game . He belongs in the East Coast Hockey League .
YOU ARE ALL QUICK TO KNOCK HIM OK HE SUCKERED CAIRNS BUT CAIRNS ALSO PUNCHED RUCINSKY IN THE FACE THAT GAME FOR NO REASON THATS BEING COWARDLY SO WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND DONT LIKE DALE THAT MUCH NOT REALLY A FIT IN THE LINEUP BUT NEVER DISLIKED THE GUY... SO U ALL SHOULD LOOK AT BOTH SIDES OF THE MIRROR B4 YAPPING IVE SEEN HIM SQUARE OFF 100% FAIR AGAINST GUYS LIKE BRASHEAR AND WORREL AND OTHERS AND HANDLE HIS OWN HE CAN FIGHT . SO STOP KNOCKING THE GUY. YOU ARE NOT IN THE SITUATION T5HESE GUYS ARE IN SO U ALL SHOULD THINK B4 U TALK
Relax.
The truth is that Purinton is not going to be a Ranger after the season.
Even though he is the oldest Player to come from the organization-which is insane.
Sather does not like him.
I never disliked the Dale, but he's taken so many stupid penalties.
He doesn't play disciplined hockey.
Relax.
The truth is that Purinton is not going to be a Ranger after the season.
Even though he is the oldest Player to come from the organization-which is insane.
Sather does not like him.
I never disliked the Dale, but he's taken so many stupid penalties.
He doesn't play disciplined hockey.
So, with your logic, we should get rid of the whole team because they don't play disciplined hockey and also take stupid penalties as well?! I'll give you Dale is one of the slowest skaters on the team as well as he pinches too much and somtimes thinks he is Brian Leetch. But don't pick out one player because of lack of discipline or stupid penalties. In fact, Dale is a helluva lot better this year than he was last year which means the guy might actually be learning...something that other players on this team need to do.
Now before I begin, I just wanna say that ever since DP was originally called up (4 years ago..??) I have been a definite supporter of him.
Up until we signed Simon, I had always maintained that we never really had a legit heavyweight contender, so I was always glad to see Dale get ice-time, and mix it up.
But....
I gotta say that I'm quickly losing my admiration (and respect) for him.
Lately all his fights have been based on sucker punches or getting the jump on a guy when he's not looking. Now I realize that everything happens so fast and we, the fans, dont know what players say to each other on the ice...but this is definitely a pattern w/him (i.e...the Cairns and Doull incidents....along with a few other recent fights).
Take a look at this fight clip....(against Lessard)....watch the end of the clip to see what I'm talking about:
Now compare that with the fight between Barnaby and Brad Ference in the Avs/Phoenix game. Matt took off his own helmet...waited for Ferrence to take his off (Ference wears a shield) and then went at it with him. A LOT more respectable if you ask me.
Here's the clip of that fight....(nice win for Barnaby)...
(you might have to register over there to view the clips)
Anyways...I really hate to say it (because I've been such a big fan of his)....but I'm not much of a DP fan anymore. He's an average defenceman (at best) and then we have to ask ourselves....is he even that good of a fighter?
So, with your logic, we should get rid of the whole team because they don't play disciplined hockey and also take stupid penalties as well?! I'll give you Dale is one of the slowest skaters on the team as well as he pinches too much and somtimes thinks he is Brian Leetch. But don't pick out one player because of lack of discipline or stupid penalties. In fact, Dale is a helluva lot better this year than he was last year which means the guy might actually be learning...something that other players on this team need to do.
I don't think he's got a higher ceiling, he's there now. Dale advanced light years as far as his skating from College days until now, but still, most of the time he gets me nervous with his erratic play. The fighting stuff isn't important.
I'm guessing Dale will be the property of another team next year. We'll see if his poor foot speed sends him back to the AHL when hockey resumes. Hard to make a conclusive judgment on anyone who plays hockey for the Rangers for as everyone knows: "Hockey's Different Here".
I don't think Purinton is "scared" of anyone. That's kind of ridiculous. Has he gotten "the jump" on guys in fights? Yeah, but so has just about evry other fighter at one time or another. The fact of the matter is that Purinton is one of the few guys on the Rangers in the last decade who would actually go out of his way to stick up for a teammate. He thinks "team" more often than himself. Anyone he fights has usually been running around or taking shots at his teammates, its not very personal. He's fought Federouk, one of his best friends, on several occasions. That being said, he is a borderline player. If someone else can do the entire job better, so be it. I'm hoping Grenier can take his spot, not because I wish Dale ill, but because I want the Rangers to improve, and I think Dale has reached his ceiling.
But I think that we have to look at his year and the stance he took earlier in the season about not wanting to go to Hartford for the conditioning stint.
Pretty much each year he's been a pro, he's developed an aspect of his game. He really started opening my eyes last season and I expected better things from him this season, but he's not really that fleet of foot and Sather wanted an up-tempo style from the D and he didn't fit. When the defenceman started dropping Dale was out of game shape and the reluctance to report to the Wolfpack (as was his right and I don't deny him that right) obviously set him back.
This year could have been a big development step for him as a player and it turned out to be a step, but in the wrong direction.
As much as I was proud to watch him grow as a player, he doesn't provide enough to warrant bringing back.
With regards to his pugilistic nature, some guys are quick on the draw to get the upper hand. Not all fighters are straight up as Barnaby. I've seen the best in the league do what he's done on more than one occassion.
As for what he did to Cairns? I have no problem with that as Cairns gloves had already hit the ice which means he was willing to go and got caught. I do have a problem that Dale didn't go with him in the next game. That was a no-no.
But my thoughts are really all about next year and beyond. Dale is an anchor that will weigh this team down if what we are looking for is an up-tempo styled team and if that is in fact the case, then Dale is a problem as he is not that fast and would pose a problem in this line-up on a regular basis.
I don't think he's got a higher ceiling, he's there now. Dale advanced light years as far as his skating from College days until now, but still, most of the time he gets me nervous with his erratic play. The fighting stuff isn't important.
Sorry Bluenote and the rest, I meant to say that is a lot better as far as taking stupid penalties this year compared to last year. I don't think he has much room for improvement in his game. Hence, I wouldn't be upset if he wasn't here next year.
I was just responding to the fact people here are complaining about him taking bad penalties and being stupid. That can be said for the whole team.
But, the reason he's in the press box right now...
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Originally Posted by Jackson Ranger
Sorry Bluenote and the rest, I meant to say that is a lot better as far as taking stupid penalties this year compared to last year. I don't think he has much room for improvement in his game. Hence, I wouldn't be upset if he wasn't here next year.
I was just responding to the fact people here are complaining about him taking bad penalties and being stupid. That can be said for the whole team.
is because of a run of stupid penalties last week. The Rangers have other alternatives now, so Dale is likely to become more irrelevant to this organization. I wouldn't be shocked to see him dealt on draft day.
Just to throw this out there - a thread started on the Talk board has many posters stating that OLIWA has been the fighter of the year. With Langdon getting good praise from Habs fans.
Just to throw this out there - a thread started on the Talk board has many posters stating that OLIWA has been the fighter of the year. With Langdon getting good praise from Habs fans.
:p
Not surprising that the thread was started by a Flames fan !
