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04-15-2009, 09:32 AM
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Wow!! What P_B said! Welcome back. I was wondering where you went.

I would like to add that one of those "meaningless" was actually not meaningless at all and that is the first time we traded Weight. He won the Cup with Carolina. But....meh.....a minor detail missing from your St. Louis Blues Organizational Treatise.

Great job! And most importantly, thank you for this wonderful summary.

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Yeah, the Blues have drafted really well. What people over on the Leafs board don't seem to get is that drafting high (you wouldn't believe how mad some of them are with a top 7 pick) is not the same (and isn't necessary) for drafting well. How many of those picks were top 10? EJ and Pietrangelo are the only ones I see, both top 5. The entire Kid Line was drafted late first round. The Blues have built through the draft with smart drafting with mid/late first rounders, and later round picks as well. They've also picked up other team's castoffs with an open mind and helped them develop into good players.

Anyway, awesome summary. I like how the Blues work as an organization.

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holy crap what a post! thanks for the details. keeping the faith on one player you include in the wasted pick section:

Nikita Nikitin 139 overall (5th round, 2004) with a pick from Florida -- probably part of the Mike Van Ryn/Bure trade as a conditional pick.

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thanks for all that work.

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Who is Woyrika?

You mean Woywitka?

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Who is Woyrika?

You mean Woywitka?
It's a little meme around here started by fan in oregon, who kept spelling Woywitka as Woyrika.

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It's a little meme around here started by fan in oregon, who kept spelling Woywitka as Woyrika.
Ah yes, good ol' FIO! Where ya been, bro? Woyrika indeed!! Thanks to P9 for bringing back such fond memories....







Oh, yeah, and this informative post.

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holy crap what a post! thanks for the details. keeping the faith on one player you include in the wasted pick section:

Nikita Nikitin 139 overall (5th round, 2004) with a pick from Florida -- probably part of the Mike Van Ryn/Bure trade as a conditional pick.
That is correct.

We also got Valeri Bure in the deal (not that he mattered).

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Great read, thanks!

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Great job. The future is bright for the Blues/Blues fans.

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Wow just Wow.

That must have been a lot of work.

Thanks.

I vote for a sticky

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hey that is a great overview of the blues over the past several years, but i don't see timofei shishkanov mentioned anywhere

LGB!

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I love that when we first traded for Doug Weight, we thought we had our center problems solved.

Through trading him twice and getting Berglund and McDonald out of it, we may have.

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I vote for a sticky too.

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A blueprint for the success of an NHL franchise... Nice Job P9's!

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Wow... That is a true fan right there!

Great work and just shows you how good our scouting has been aquiring extra picks and prospects

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[I always wonder if that's an individualized thing, like an individual scout originally scouted the guy hard, recommended them, but they got taken by another team or Jarmo picked other scout's recommendation. So later the scout keeps an eye on his guys' progress to keep checking how good an evaluator he is, and when he senses some of these guys might come available he alerts the team to monitor the situation. For example, the Blues took Backes at 62 in 2003. What if the Blues were going to take Crombeen before he got taken at 54? So they keep an eye on Crombeen's progress. But maybe it's not like that at all.]
I read somewhere recently that this was precisely the case with Winchester. The Blues scouted him heavily prior to his draft year, missed out on him on draft day, but kept tabs on him until he was available then snatched him up.

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I read somewhere recently that this was precisely the case with Winchester. The Blues scouted him heavily prior to his draft year, missed out on him on draft day, but kept tabs on him until he was available then snatched him up.
Didn't we also try to trade for him at the trade deadline a few years ago for McAmmond only to run out of time?

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I read somewhere recently that this was precisely the case with Winchester. The Blues scouted him heavily prior to his draft year, missed out on him on draft day, but kept tabs on him until he was available then snatched him up.
Certainly makes you think they'll be resigning him. I know he's not Tkachuk, but I think they want that big body going to the net. Its going to be fun to see how the front office crafts this team in the coming years. Even checking line spots are going to be hard to come by.

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Wow awesome post and I love the Woyrika flashbacks...lol

truly an amazing job of asset management by the powers that be in St. Louis...geez.

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great job on the details; however I wouldn't consider the Blues rebuild to be quick. I mean they are still in essence a rebuilding team, but a lot closer to their goal, but even if you consider the team to be rebuilt I would not define a 5 year rebuild as quick.

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