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07-12-2010, 10:37 AM
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Aoki's comments post-fight:
"When I caught (Kawajiri) and tried to submit him, I heard a loud crackle sound. He did not tap so I thought 'Ok, this match just became a death-fight' and I was going to destroy his leg. I knew Kawajiri never taps so I could not win without breaking his bone. I was hoping for an open-fracture. No one could have endured [that submission] like Kawajiri. His heart is iron. [I told him] 'I could show you 100% but I chose not to because I respect you. Thank you for this fight.' After I lost (to Gilbert Melendez), many people blamed me, but [my fiance] helped me through it all. The people who mocked me in my fight versus Melendez, I wanted to kill them all. Even in this fight, too many people said 'Kawajiri would win!'. I felt like telling these people 'Go to hell!'."

Love him or hate him, the man always delivers on the quotes.

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08-18-2010, 05:47 PM
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Things looking pretty grim on the Japanese MMA front, and even for K-1:

http://nightmareofbattle.com/?p=3293

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As you know, several FEG fighters have not been paid their guaranteed fight money. Bibiano Fernandes, Gary Goodridge, Andy Souwer, etc. Japanese MMA magazine Kamipro editor-in-chief Saito talked about the situation yesterday.

Apparently this has been going on since the latter half of the 1st year of DREAM and it’s not only foreign fighters who haven’t been paid on time, it’s Japanese fighters as well.

It also seems like FEG have barely stayed alive these recent years. They were only able to pay fighters due to the money they got from the TV broadcast of Dynamite!! events in recent years.
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The PUJI deal seems to take a while since all kinds of preparations that need time are needed. But it’s very bad right now, no announcement on the schedule of MAX, Koshien isn’t 100%. He says: “I heard a somewhat unpleasant rumor…”.

In short, PUJI is the last ray of hope. If PUJI funds do not come in, it’s “the end”. Another question is if FEG can endure until then. At worst the 2010 World GP and DREAM.16 might be postponed or terminated completely.
The writing's been on the wall for a while now but this is still sad to read about. There will still be smaller shows of course, but the days of the huge spectacle look to be over.

In better news, Sengoku's next card finishes up a great week for MMA (seriously, WEC, Bellator, Strikeforce and Sengoku cards all within the space of 5 days or so... we're spoiled!), airing on HDNet at 2am ET on Sunday, August 22. All you need to know about it here: http://nightmareofbattle.com/?p=3258

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SRC Middleweight Title Fight (5×5 mins)
11. Jorge Santiago vs. Kazuo Misaki

Single Fight (3×5 mins)
10. LW: Akihiro Gono vs. Jadamba Narantungalag
09. FW: Hatsu Hioki vs. Jeff Lawson
08. LW: Leonardo Santos vs. Sotaro Yamada

SRC Welterweight GP Series 2010 Block B (3×5 mins)
07. Taisuke “Gouten” Okuno vs. Nick Thompson
06. Kenta Takagi vs. Yasubey Enomoto

SRC Welterweight GP Series 2010 Reserve Fight (3×5 mins)
05. Motoki Miyazawa vs. Takuya Sato

SRC Bantamweight Asia Tournament 2010 2nd Round (2×5 mins)
04. Shintaro Ishiwatari vs. Kil Woo Lee
03. Shoko Sato vs. Takuya Eizumi
02. Wataru Takahashi vs. Tatsuya So
01. Jae Hyun So vs. Hirokazu Nishimura
And finally, on the lighter side of things, apparently Enson Inoue has decided to go on a spiritual journey by hiking 750 miles around Shikoku Island in Japan, and is keeping a blog while he's doing it. He's showing about the same amount of common sense that you would expect: http://www.cagepotato.com/enson-inou...st-rocky-start

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“The people at the temple said the heat is really bad now and that it was impossible to make it without staying at a hotel,” he blogged. “When I heard that it became a challenge for me. When I told the old man that I wasn't going to stay in a hotel he replied, ‘There is no way you can make it without staying in a hotel.’ I then responded by saying that there was no way I was going to stay in a hotel and he repeated it 3 times that it was impossible. At that moment I decided in my heart that even if I were at the brink of death, I wasn't going to stay not even 1 night in a hotel.”
Read the rest of the article, it's pretty funny. Hopefully he doesn't end up like Evan Tanner, but I guess since he's updating a blog while he's doing it, he should be able to get help quickly if he needs it.

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08-19-2010, 08:12 AM
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Sengoku/Dream really need to merge and hope they can make a go of it jointly. It would be a real shame to not have these organizations around. Besides the entertainment value for us fans it offers the younger "up and comers" a stage to show their stuff against high level competition.

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08-19-2010, 12:43 PM
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That would suck hardcore if the Japanese fight game went down. I love K1! That would be super depressing.

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08-19-2010, 01:17 PM
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I don't think K-1 would be affected, it's the UFC of the kickboxing world. From what I gather it's strictly the Japanese MMA organizations that are having a tough time.

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08-19-2010, 01:27 PM
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I don't think K-1 would be affected, it's the UFC of the kickboxing world. From what I gather it's strictly the Japanese MMA organizations that are having a tough time.
K-1 and DREAM are both owned by FEG though, so I think the financial problems extend to both. The NOB article I linked above mentions that Andy Souwer hasn't been paid for some fights, for instance, and that the MAX and Koshien (the one with the teenage kids) tournaments might be in jeopardy.

It would probably take a lot to jeopardize the World Grand Prix, but I think we're already seeing a lot fewer other cards. Last year there were all those mini-tournaments leading up to the WGP (like the ones that Ghita and Singh Jaideep won) and this year I can hardly think of any.

edit: speaking of K-1, sounds like they're not happy about some publicity stunt Schilt pulled where he claimed his championship belt was stolen and might use it as an excuse to exclude him from the GP this year

http://www.fightersonlymagazine.co.u...le.php?id=5108


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08-19-2010, 01:28 PM
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I don't think K-1 would be affected, it's the UFC of the kickboxing world. From what I gather it's strictly the Japanese MMA organizations that are having a tough time.
K-1 is owned by FEG (same people who own DREAM). So if they're having trouble, then K-1's in trouble.

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08-19-2010, 02:36 PM
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Yeah, I knew they were both owned by FEG but assumed they were run as separate entities like any good business should be. I really can't see K-1 being the problem, Dream is most likely the one sucking the money out of the pot.

I think Dream will go down at some point, I really can't see them sucking K-1 down with them though. And even if they did, I think someone else would step up to the plate and purchase K-1 as it's own entity.

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08-19-2010, 02:40 PM
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Another article on the same story for those interested.

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"This is the end
Beautiful friend
This is the end
My only friend, the end
Of our elaborate plans, the end
Of everything that stands, the end"

We've been on this story for a good part of the year, and as you can assume, we've heard everything under the sun about it. First, we heard that it was being alarmist to claim that FEG was having serious financial problems and our sources were probably just exaggerating. Then the buildings were on fire and imminent death was in sight. Then we weren't being harsh enough towards FEG and painting a truly doomed picture.

All of the stories coming from FEG have been very cautious, and the company has been alarmingly quiet since the last round of shows (K-1 MAX and DREAM.15), where usually there would be press conferences, leaked fights for upcoming cards and rumors in general about upcoming cards. Even Tanikawa, who usually lit up twitter daily has been quiet. The PUJI investment story is really all we've heard from K-1 lately, and all that talked about was an investment bank planning to help out FEG and some Japanese grandstanding about global expansion. Things first looked a bit off when the DREAM in Korea show was called off and there was something about a television deal falling through and FEG having to negotiate a brand new contract.

The planned K-1 World Grand Prix format for this year also mysteriously fell through, with the Eastern Europe GP falling through, the Asia GP not happening and the Final 16 Qualifying Tournament not happening, either. If you look at the graphin the last link, the K-1 World Grand Prix this year has unfolded not as planned, at all. There is supposed to be a K-1 MAX Final 16 show in Europe in September, but the K-1 Official site, which usually lists upcoming shows on the right hand column has no sign of it anymore. The next show listed is the Koshien tournament, which there has been little actual news of to date.

The blog Nightmare of Battle usually steers away from too much business talk and simply promotes the fights, and in an interesting turn posted a news story today that addresses a lot of the recent FEG rumors. FEG has been notorious for stiffing foreign fighters, and paying them only if they return to Japan to either fight again or demand their pay. Well, not anymore, as apparently Japanese fighters are now owed money, which makes things seem a lot more dire. Editor of Kamipro magazine, Saito, is the one who is spilling this info and let's it be known that there are many contributing factors to FEG's financial woes; the Ishii tax evasion scandal, the PRIDE yakuza scandal, Yoshihiro Akiyama's "greasegate" against Kazushi Sakuraba, television stations paying 30-50% less last year for FEG programming and the increase of fight purses. All of these have led to FEG being on the ropes as they are now.

The "unpleasant rumor" that Saito heard is still up in the air, but NOB thinks it could be as bad as the World Grand Prix and DREAM.16 being postponed or canceled completely. The hope is that this is all just alarmist conjecture and everything happens as planned, but with more and more fighters stepping forward upset about their distinct lack of pay or communication from FEG, anything can happen.

If you are a kickboxing fan you better hope that HDNet starts working with Simon Rutz and It's Showtime!!
http://www.headkicklegend.com/2010/8...rt-fegs-cracks

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08-22-2010, 06:38 AM
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Omg Misaki/Santiago was like fight of the year for sure, non-stop back and forth action. So much drama, and immense heart shown by both fighters

Fights like this is the reason why I stay up to watch Jap MMA

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Omg Misaki/Santiago was like fight of the year for sure, non-stop back and forth action. So much drama, and immense heart shown by both fighters

Fights like this is the reason why I stay up to watch Jap MMA
Yeah, I caught some of the card but unfortunately had to go to bed well before that one came on, sounds like I missed out. From what I saw and read about this morning, it sounds like it ended up being one of Sengoku's best cards. I'll have to track down some of the fights I missed.

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08-28-2010, 08:52 AM
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Sakuraba will be fighting Mayhem at Dream 16

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Saku has bit off more than he can chew in this one, IMO. He's had troubles with younger fighters lately, younger fighters who are quite inferior to Mayhem. I'm excited for the fight but I can't see any way Saku takes this one.

Warren/Omigawa should be an awesome fight, hopefully Omigawa crushes him and then comes over to the WEC!

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Saku has bit off more than he can chew in this one, IMO. He's had troubles with younger fighters lately, younger fighters who are quite inferior to Mayhem. I'm excited for the fight but I can't see any way Saku takes this one.

Warren/Omigawa should be an awesome fight, hopefully Omigawa crushes him and then comes over to the WEC!
Yea realisticly saku probably should stop fighting all together but as long as he does I will root for him.

hopefully omigawa wins via nasty head movement, looking foward to this one, as well as deep 50 which is well, deep.

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Ruh-roh http://mmajunkie.com/news/20493/drea...ottom-line.mma

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I'm sure everyone was aware, but just a quick reminder that Dream 16 goes this weekend.

Jason "Mayhem" Miller and Kazushi Sakuraba
Shinya Aoki vs. Marcus Aurelio
"Lion" Takeshi Inoue vs. Kazuyuki Miyata
Hideo Tokoro vs. Joachim Hansen
Tatsuya Mizuno vs. Gegard Mousasi (for vacant light heavyweight title)
Chase Beebe vs. Hiroyuki Takaya
Cole Escovedo vs. Michihiro Omigawa
Mitsuhiro Ishida vs. Akiyo "Wicky" Nishiura
Caol Uno vs. TBA*
Ikuhisa Minowa vs. TBA*
Norifumi "Kid" Yamamoto vs. TBA*

That's a pretty sweet card, I'm really stoked for Mayhem/Saku! I love that they have so many of their FWs on this card, I love watching Omigawa, Wicky and Takaya fight.

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The rumour I read is that Minowa will be fighting James Thompson, which is pretty hilarious.

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What's even more hillarious is that the event is this weekend and we don't know who some of the competitiors are. A classic Dream move.

I wish Thompson was a front for the man he beat (scratch the EliteXC fix), KIMBO!!! Honestly, I would absolutely love to see a freakshow fight between Minowa and Kimbo!!!

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The rumour I read is that Minowa will be fighting James Thompson, which is pretty hilarious.
"First reaction to MMAFighting’s news that middleweight Ikuhisa Minowa will fight heavyweight James Thompson at Dream 16 on Sept. 25: This hasn’t happened already?

Second: What does Minowa have against his brain?

Minowa, 34 in human years but probably feeling a spry 96, has made his name in Japan for refusing to let go of the open-weight-class torch in MMA. At a bodyweight in the 190s, he’s fought Bob Sapp (at least 300 pounds), Zulu, Jr. (two Sapps, easy) and Butterbean (weight incalculable). He beat most of them, a feat that would seem handicapped by their mediocrity but remains interesting when you consider their mount technique only needs to involve holding still.

Unfortunately for Minowa, open-weight contests against opponents with even a sliver of ability is still an incredible grind on the body: He’s often forced to carry their resisting weight, suffer punches out of proportion to his body’s ability to handle their stress and is generally shaving three fights off his career for every one -- win or lose -- he takes against a monster. Only in Japan."

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Min...n-Injury-26957

What the Sherdog writers don't realize is that MINOWAMAN is actually capable of making brain damage forget that it even exists.


There are very few who I respect more in MMA than MINOWAMAN.

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Looks like it's not Thompson:

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DREAM today announced the last minute addition of Ikuhisa Minowa vs. Satoshi Ishii open weight bout for DREAM 16 from the Nippon Gaishi Hall on Sept. 25 in Nagoya, Japan.

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Minowaman is epic!

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Ugh... Youtube took down "Ikuhisa Minowa - The Greatest Warrior That Ever Lived", which was the best video on all of Youtube and without a doubt the best MMA compilation ever made.

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