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04-17-2009, 08:05 AM
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Ufc 97

Event is tommorrow night. Let's get some discussion and predictions going.

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UFC 97: APRIL 18, 2009
venue: Bell Centre in Montreal, Canada

Main Card Bouts:
-Anderson Silva (23-4; #1 Middleweight in the World)* vs. Thales Leites (14-1)
-Mauricio "Shogun" Rua (17-3; #5 Light Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Chuck Liddell (21-6; #6 Light Heavyweight in the World)*
-Luiz Cane (9-1) vs. Steve Cantwell (7-1)
-Cheick Kongo (13-4-1) vs. Antoni Hardonk (8-4)
-Brian Stann (6-1) vs. Krzysztof Soszynski (16-8-1)

Preliminary Bouts:
-Nathan Quarry (10-3) vs. Jason MacDonald (21-11)
-Denis Kang (31-11-1) vs. Xavier Fouka-Pokum (20-9)
-David Loiseau (18-8) vs. Ed Herman (16-7)
-T.J. Grant (13-2) vs. Ryo Chonan (15-9)
-Mark Bocek (6-2) vs. David Bielkheden (13-6)
-Matt Wiman (11-5) vs. Sam Stout (13-5-1)
-Eliot Marshall (7-3) vs. Vinny Magalhaes (6-4)
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04-17-2009, 08:23 AM
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My predictions:

Main Card Bouts:
Anderson Silva vs. Thales Leites - Silva by (T)KO 2nd rd.
Mauricio "Shogun" Rua vs. Chuck Liddell - Shogun by KO 2nd rd.
Luiz Cane vs. Steve Cantwell - Cane by TKO 1st rd.
Cheick Kongo vs. Antoni Hardonk - Hardonk by TKO 3rd rd.
Brian Stann vs. Krzysztof Soszynski - Soszynski by KO 2nd rd.

Preliminary Bouts:
Nathan Quarry vs. Jason MacDonald - Quarry by decision
Denis Kang vs. Xavier Fouka-Pokum - Kang by decision
David Loiseau vs. Ed Herman - Herman by decision
T.J. Grant vs. Ryo Chonan - Chonan by armbar 2nd rd.
Mark Bocek vs. David Bielkheden - Bocek by RNC 2nd rd.
Matt Wiman vs. Sam Stout - Wiman by decision
Eliot Marshall vs. Vinny Magalhaes - Marshall by KO 3rd rd.


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Anderson Silva is motivated

Watch out Leites. You're in for a rough night.

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Main Card Bouts:
Anderson Silva vs. Thales Leites (KO Rd 1) -- Leites is a good fighter but this is a huge step up for him and I don't think his standup is good enough to avoid getting messed up.
Mauricio "Shogun" Rua vs. Chuck Liddell (UD) -- Chuck has lost a step or two but he hasn't looked nearly as awful as Shogun has in his last two fights. I'll be pulling for Shogun but I think he's going to get shown up big time.
Luiz Cane vs. Steve Cantwell (Murder Rd 1) -- Cantwell is OK but not really in Cane's league.
Cheick Kongo vs. Antoni Hardonk (TKO Rd 2) -- I actually like Hardonk a lot because he's made some pretty big improvements in his ground game, but for a kickboxing specialist he sure seems to eat a lot of punches. I hope he wins because I'm not a big Kongo fan but I think Kongo's going to eventually put Hardonk on his back and pound him out.
Brian Stann vs. Krzysztof Soszynski (Sub Rd 2) -- Stann gassed horribly in his last fight with Cantwell, maybe he's addressed it in the meantime but I suspect we'll see a repeat performance.

Preliminary Bouts:
Nathan Quarry vs. Jason MacDonald (Sub Rd 3)
Denis Kang vs. Xavier Fouka-Pokum (Sub Rd 1)
David Loiseau vs. Ed Herman (SD)
T.J. Grant vs. Ryo Chonan (UD)
Mark Bocek vs. David Bielkheden (UD)
Matt Wiman vs. Sam Stout (UD)
Eliot Marshall vs. Vinny Magalhaes (Sub Rd 2)

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My predictions:

Main Card Bouts:
Anderson Silva vs. Thales Leites - Silva by KO 1st rd
Mauricio "Shogun" Rua vs. Chuck Liddell - Liddell 3rd rd TKO
Luiz Cane vs. Steve Cantwell - Cane by TKO 1st rd.
Cheick Kongo vs. Antoni Hardonk - Kongo Decision
Brian Stann vs. Krzysztof Soszynski - Stann 2nd rd TKO

Preliminary Bouts:
Nathan Quarry vs. Jason MacDonald - Quarry by 2nd rd KO
Denis Kang vs. Xavier Fouka-Pokum - Kang by 1st rd submission
David Loiseau vs. Ed Herman - Loiseau 2nd rd TKO
T.J. Grant vs. Ryo Chonan - Grant 1st round submission
Mark Bocek vs. David Bielkheden - Bielkheden Decision.
Matt Wiman vs. Sam Stout - Stout Decision
Eliot Marshall vs. Vinny Magalhaes - Marshall 1st rd TKO

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04-17-2009, 12:17 PM
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A few interesting undercard bouts. A buddy of mine beat Loiseau back in 2001.

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Anyone else headed to the fights? Hopping on a train in about 90 minutes to Montreal.

Last year was sick, hopefully the crowd is awesome again this year.

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Is there any SOPcast or TVU channel up for this? MMA Channel wasn't working for the last Strikeforce show.

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Is there any SOPcast or TVU channel up for this? MMA Channel wasn't working for the last Strikeforce show.
It worked for me.

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It worked for me.
Hmm. Said it was down at the time for me and for everyone else I knew trying to use it to watch the Diaz fight.

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Anyone else headed to the fights? Hopping on a train in about 90 minutes to Montreal.

Last year was sick, hopefully the crowd is awesome again this year.
I'll be there! I can't see the crowd matching last year due to the fact that there's no GSP, but i think it will still be insane! The card the year is MUCH better than the card last year, I can't wait.

As far as the fights, I'll take:

Main Card Bouts:
-Anderson Silva (23-4; #1 Middleweight in the World)* vs. Thales Leites (14-1)
-Mauricio "Shogun" Rua (17-3; #5 Light Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Chuck Liddell (21-6; #6 Light Heavyweight in the World)*
-Luiz Cane (9-1) vs. Steve Cantwell (7-1)
-Cheick Kongo (13-4-1) vs. Antoni Hardonk (8-4)
-Brian Stann (6-1) vs. Krzysztof Soszynski (16-8-1)

Preliminary Bouts:
-Nathan Quarry (10-3) vs. Jason MacDonald (21-11)
-Denis Kang (31-11-1) vs. Xavier Fouka-Pokum (20-9)
-David Loiseau (18-8) vs. Ed Herman (16-7)
-T.J. Grant (13-2) vs. Ryo Chonan (15-9)**Grant is legit, first of many fights in the UFC
-Mark Bocek (6-2) vs. David Bielkheden (13-6)
-Matt Wiman (11-5) vs. Sam Stout (13-5-1)
-Eliot Marshall (7-3) vs. Vinny Magalhaes (6-4)

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Anyone know of any appearances or autograph signings going on during the day today featuring UFC fighters?

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Hmm. Said it was down at the time for me and for everyone else I knew trying to use it to watch the Diaz fight.
Well I'll let you know how it's going tonight and see if I can help if you have issues again.

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For anyone in Montreal, Wanderlei Silva is going to be doing an appearance outside the Bell Centre from 1 to 3.

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I tried to get tickets but only the most expensive tickets were available when tickets went on sale to newsletter subscribers. Should be awesome.

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Main Card Bouts:
-Anderson Silva (23-4) vs. Thales Leites (14-1) KO1 any comment needed?
-Mauricio "Shogun" Rua (17-3) vs. Chuck Liddell (21-6) TKO2 I know Shogun has looked terrible since arriving in UFC, but I think he does have the hands to knock Chuck out if this is a stand up match. Chuck spoke of working on his wrestling and other stuff, which should probably worry Shogun, but when the chips are down Chuck will probably fight the same fight he always does, and I don't think he's fast enough to win that way anymore. I still have a soft spot for Chuck, but I've been really disturbed by where his game has headed.
-Luiz Cane (9-1) vs. Steve Cantwell (7-1) TKO1 Cantwell really impressed me in his UFC debut, but Cane was just awesome in disposing of Sudoku. Hard to pick against that guy.
-Cheick Kongo (13-4-1) vs. Antoni Hardonk (8-4) eh, whatever.
-Brian Stann (6-1) vs. Krzysztof Soszynski (16-8-1) I know nothing about Stann, but I enjoy watching Krystoff's striking, and will be pulling for the Winnipeg guy.

Preliminary Bouts:
-Nathan Quarry (10-3) vs. Jason MacDonald (21-11) MacDonald is on a losing streak and needs a win badly here.
-Matt Wiman (11-5) vs. Sam Stout (13-5-1) Wiman looked terrible in getting rolled up by one of the crazy Miller boys. Stout has looked terrible fighting pretty much anybody not named Fisher, hasn't he?
-Eliot Marshall (7-3) vs. Vinny Magalhaes (6-4) In a battle of jiu-jitsu specialists, it seems silly not to pick Magalhaes, but Marshall does seem to have a broader range of skills, and might be able to keep this from turning into a jiu-jitsu contest.

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This card just doesn't do it for me. I mean, it's not a bad card per say, but I just have been having a hard time getting excited for it. I got about 6 texts in the past two days asking if I was ordering, since I'm usually the guy in our group that hosts, but I just kept ignoring thinking that if someplace to watch it didn't pop up, I could actually do without seeing it live. Luckily someone else came forward, but still, kind of a weird feeling about the card for some reason.

Anyways, enough about "feelings" this ain't Oprah...

Silva via KO rd 1 or 2 - Can it go any other way? Everyone talks about how Leites has the style to potentially dethrone Silva. We've heard similar rhetoric about other seemingly unstoppable champions, and usually it winds up as just that...empty rhetoric. I have a hard time putting Leites's last performance out of my head going into this one, and I think he does too. Silva is just too much for him.

Shogun via KO rd 2 - I dunno about this one to be honest. I kept going back and forth. Both have looked pretty bad in their last few outings. In the end, Shogun is more spry, and I think he will bounce back. Chuck on the other hand is on his last legs as a fighter and unless he takes no damage in this fight, this should be his curtain call.

Cane via KO rd 1 - Cantwell is a decent up and comer, but Cane's striking is just too clean. Cantwell will think he can stand and bang and will be rudely awakened.

Kongo via decision - Here's to hoping these two showcase their skills and make it a kickboxing match, but ever since Kongo has worked with Team Punishment he thinks he's a wrestler. He'll use those skills to win all three rounds with takedowns and ground and pound, almost lay and pray-like. Even if he is content to stand with Hardonk, he'll use a takedown to close out each round to edge Hardonk on the scorecards.

Soszynski via TKO - Both guys are pure oxes, and it could turn into a pure slugfest, I just have a gut feeling that Kryzstof is the one that lands his bomb first. Could go either way on this one too. Though as the fight wears on, Stann is at a disadvantage since Kryzstof has more refined striking, better gas, and a much more established ground game.

Kang via submission - Personally I think Kang's very overrated. His status seems to be built on guys like Foupa-Pokam. Admittedly, I should recuse myself from a prediction here, since I've only seem Kang fight, but it just seems to me like the UFC hand picked him a guy they know he can beat to justify the big contract they gave him to bring him over.

Quarry via split decision - Fight of the fight. Both men stand and trade. There's some great ground work, with submission attempts, sweeps, escapes, and reversals, in the end Quarry squeaks it out.

Herman via decision - I commend Loiseau for his comeback efforts, but I think Herman's smart enough to utilize his better grappling skills to pound out Loiseau.

Bocek via submission, RNC - Bielkheden came in overweight, so I think that will take it's toll. I never got the hype with him in the first place.

Wiman via submission, armbar - Stout has never put enough focus on rounding out his ground game as he should have since making the leap to the UFC. Though if Wiman wants to stand with Stout, he'll get knocked out.

I don't know enough about TJ Grant to render a prediction on his fight with Chonan.

Magalhaes via decision - I think Eliot is good enough in the jits game to defend against Vinny's world-class skills, but that's about all he's doing for most of the fight. Vinny keeps him in some precarious positions for every round to cruise to a unanimous decision.


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UFC® 97 REDEMPTION
Anderson Silva Vs. Thales Leites
Chuck Liddell Vs. Mauricio Rua
Krzysztof Soszynski Vs. Brian Stann
Cheick Kongo Vs. Antoni Hardonk
Steve Cantwell Vs. Luiz Cane
Eliot Marshall Vs. Vinicius Magalhaes
Denis Kang Vs. Xavier Foupa-Pokam
Jason MacDonald Vs. Nate Quarry
David Loiseau Vs. Ed Herman
Mark Bocek Vs. David Bielkheden
Ryo Chonan Vs. TJ Grant
Sam Stout Vs. Matt Wiman

I love 'Fight Night'...can't wait to see some good fights tonight.

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Anderson Silva vs. Thales Leites
Chuck Liddell vs. Mauricio "Shogun" Rua
Krzysztof Soszynski vs. Brian Stann
Cheick Kongo vs. Antoni Hardonk
Luis Cane vs. Steve Cantwell
Vinicius Magalhaes vs. Eliot Marshall
Xavier Foupa-Pokam vs. Denis Kang
Jason MacDonald vs. Nate Quarry
Ed Herman vs. David Loiseau
David Bielkheden vs. Mark Bocek
Ryo Chonan vs. T.J. Grant
Sam Stout vs. Matt Wiman


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Not going to do the prelim fights since there honestly isn't a singer fighter I could care about.

Main Card Bouts:
-Anderson Silva (23-4; #1 Middleweight in the World)* vs. Thales Leites (14-1)
-Mauricio "Shogun" Rua (17-3; #5 Light Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Chuck Liddell (21-6; #6 Light Heavyweight in the World)*
-Luiz Cane (9-1) vs. Steve Cantwell (7-1)
-Cheick Kongo (13-4-1) vs. Antoni Hardonk (8-4)
-Brian Stann (6-1) vs. Krzysztof Soszynski (16-8-1)

I like Leites a lot. I think he has the potential to beat Silva. I'm sure he'll be KO'd within 15 seconds or something to make me look like a fool, but I'm just on a hunch. Have never really picked against Silva before.

Liddell should be able to dismantle Shogun if Shogun comes in not giving a **** again. In fact, I hope he does.

Cane is the man. He's insane. Straight up bad-****ing-ass. Cantwell is a great WEC dude, but I think he's dismantled in this fight. Was pretty bad-ass when Cantwell dislocated Razak Al-Hassan's elbow, but I don't think he'll even have a chance to do that in this fight.

Who cares about the Kongo fight? He'll win, but I might go get ice cream during it or something.

I like All American Brian Stann in the fight against Krzysztof. Never have been a big time Krzysztof fan. Something about him just doesn't make me have much confidence in him as a long time UFC fighter. Stann is still a little green, but I think he'll be out for blood to avenge his loss against Cantwell.

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Nice. MMA TV working great.

Such a great first fight.

Cane is a bad, bad man.

Cannot wait for this to get started.

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Over/under on nut shots this fight?

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That Kongo fight was horrible.

I knew it would be terrible, but still.

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Krzysztof is a strong strong man.

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Pretty boring card so far.

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