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Where is Richard Panik expected to go in the draft?

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04-19-2009, 07:40 PM
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Where is Richard Panik expected to go in the draft?

He was originally looking like a top 10 pick, but has fallen off the map a little. Where do you expect him to go?

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04-19-2009, 07:57 PM
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Somewhere in the 2nd round.

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I think late first is still possible if the right team is still high on him. With so many teams having multiple 2nds, I dont see him falling past #45. I have him as my 9th Euro skater, after a ****ton of swedes, but I could see teams having Panik above Klingberg and Johansson.

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the reason why he drops he pretty much gets under 5 minutes of ice time in his league

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the reason why he drops he pretty much gets under 5 minutes of ice time in his league
At the risk of being accused of overvaluing the World Juniors, he didn't have a very impressive World Juniors. He was ok, but he didn't show enough to go any higher than maybe late first IMO. Of course it doesn't help if he doesn't get any playing time with his regular team.

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Anywhere from late 20's to the 80's.

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04-19-2009, 08:54 PM
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Anywhere from late 20's to the 80's.
25 to 45

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04-19-2009, 09:07 PM
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I still have him in the top 20, but I expect him to get picked somewhere between 25 and 35..

I wouldn't mind if Detroit picked him in the first round..

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I figured that he'd go around 40. I'd love if the Rangers could pick up another second round pick and get this kid.

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04-19-2009, 11:38 PM
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the reason why he drops he pretty much gets under 5 minutes of ice time in his league
I guess the next question would be, why does he only get 5 minutes of icetime?

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04-19-2009, 11:46 PM
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I guess the next question would be, why does he only get 5 minutes of icetime?
mens league maybe?

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He won't make it out of the 20-25 range. A team with multiple 1st round picks or a pretty stocked farm system that can afford the risk will take it. Kind of like when the Avalanche took Wolski so late or the Blues took Perron. He has too much talent to last until the 2nd round. I'll be sick if he gets taken at the bottom of the round by a team like Detroit.

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At the risk of being accused of overvaluing the World Juniors, he didn't have a very impressive World Juniors. He was ok, but he didn't show enough to go any higher than maybe late first IMO. Of course it doesn't help if he doesn't get any playing time with his regular team.
Agreed imo thats the reason why hedmans not going first overall probably

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04-20-2009, 12:11 AM
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Dont see him going much past 30, should be one of the first 5 picks of the 2nd round.

Wouldn't be surprised, but would be terribly pissed off to see him go the Red Wings.

The Islanders have San Jose's 1st rounder, not to mention 4 picks in the first 40 of the draft, they would have to be stupid to pass on him that many times.

Tavares and Panik would improve the Isles talent pool in a hurry!

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04-20-2009, 12:44 AM
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At the risk of being accused of overvaluing the World Juniors, he didn't have a very impressive World Juniors. He was ok, but he didn't show enough to go any higher than maybe late first IMO. Of course it doesn't help if he doesn't get any playing time with his regular team.
Panik at the WJCs to me seemed like a kid that was frustrated that he wasn't on a team that could compete. He looked a little frustrated and to me that is forgivable. He'll mature and his talent will with it. Yeah, it would have been nice to see him battle through being the best player on his team by a country mile and actually play like it but for a player his age it's hard to really push the pedal that hard when you're the only guy out there that knows what you're doing.

We never see that with Canadian kids or players from really strong hockey countries so it's unusual. He'll be fine once he gets to a level where he can play with his peers and his peers push him to improve.

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04-20-2009, 12:47 AM
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On a somewhat related note, where do you guys think Tomas Tatar is going to go? He was really impressive in the WJC.

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Even more than Panik, so he wasn't the only good player on the team

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At the risk of being accused of overvaluing the World Juniors, he didn't have a very impressive World Juniors. He was ok, but he didn't show enough to go any higher than maybe late first IMO. Of course it doesn't help if he doesn't get any playing time with his regular team.
It's pretty hard not to put a lot of stock in the WJC when evaluating a guy like Panik. He's a 17 year old on a vetran team in a men's league. He plays very limited minutes, likely on a 4th line with average players. That doesn't give scouts much of a read on a guy, and the WJC becomes a much more important evaluation tool.

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It's pretty hard not to put a lot of stock in the WJC when evaluating a guy like Panik. He's a 17 year old on a vetran team in a men's league. He plays very limited minutes, likely on a 4th line with average players. That doesn't give scouts much of a read on a guy, and the WJC becomes a much more important evaluation tool.
You're right, there's a lot of weight put on his performance in the world juniors, or should I say lack thereof. He really was not good and didn't turn heads for the right reasons. All this while his country mate Tatar did which proved it wasnt just because of lack of good players around him. I'll be surprised if he goes in the top 2 rounds at this point. A lot of players had good years and have moved up because of it which is also something to consider.

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04-20-2009, 06:56 AM
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well, he had a bad year also because of injuries, that might even be one of the reasonsof limited ice-time, it is hard to get a spot on an Extraliga team when you´re young and don´t play till November. The WJC didn´t help him much as well, but I think that he performed quiet well for a kid his age, it´s just that everyone excepted that he´d be the one who´ll carry his team and get loads of points. Instead of that Tatar came and put on a good show, one of the kind that was excepted from Panik.
I think he´ll go somehwere late 1st-early 2nd although he could fall even further and be a hell of a steal for some team since he seems to be considered kind of a floater right now.

Btw since we´re already talking about Panik. Why is his prospect page under Czech republic?? It´s not like most people already think that he´s a Czech. I know it seems irrelevant, but being Czech and being Slovak is at least as or even more different tha being a Canadian and being an American.

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04-20-2009, 11:18 AM
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Id say mid 2nd round. Work ethic can really hold a guy back.

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Id say mid 2nd round. Work ethic can really hold a guy back.
I just hope he won´t become a floater like our dear Laco Nagy.

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Red Line has him as a falling prospect going into the draft due to a lack of effort and physical fitness (fat). Is that about right?

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Panik at the WJCs to me seemed like a kid that was frustrated that he wasn't on a team that could compete. He looked a little frustrated and to me that is forgivable. He'll mature and his talent will with it. Yeah, it would have been nice to see him battle through being the best player on his team by a country mile and actually play like it but for a player his age it's hard to really push the pedal that hard when you're the only guy out there that knows what you're doing.

We never see that with Canadian kids or players from really strong hockey countries so it's unusual. He'll be fine once he gets to a level where he can play with his peers and his peers push him to improve.
I think Tatar is a better player than Panik. He certainly was at the WJC.

I think Panik goes in the late 2nd to late 4th round. I think this draft is deep enough that it is doubtful to me that anyone takes a chance on him in the 1st.

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