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04-25-2009, 02:48 PM
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Great Steve Bégin article on RDS.ca

http://www.rds.ca/hockey/chroniques/273561.html

Reading that article made me remember why Steve Bégin was so loved by the fans. What a great guy. Too bad his injuries really took a toll on him.

For people who can't read French, the most notable part is that Bégin decided to go to the Bell Center after the Canadiens got eliminated, and everybody in the locker room was really happy to see him. It was as if he never left the team. He was even invited to go to a team party and Dandy's house the night of the elimination and to the last team dinner the next evening.

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04-25-2009, 02:59 PM
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Reading that article made me remember why Steve Bégin was so loved by the fans. What a great guy. Too bad his injuries really took a toll on him.

For people who can't read French, the most notable part is that Bégin decided to go to the Bell Center after the Canadiens got eliminated, and everybody in the locker room was really happy to see him. It was as if he never left the team. He was even invited to go to a team party and Dandy's house the night of the elimination and to the last team dinner the next evening.

Carbo didn't want to play him so Gainey gracefully traded him where he would play. He would have been an asset against the Bruins.

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the guy really loved it here.

too bad it had to end.

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I would resign him.

Without thinking about it.

(That is if the new coach wants to play him and not be like Carbo)

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Carbo didn't want to play him so Gainey gracefully traded him where he would play. He would have been an asset against the Bruins.
until he got a penalty and everybody got on his case.

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He was on L'Antichambre" yesterday night. Once again, he said that Carbo was never talking to him, and even when he was playing his best hockey, he did not understand ewhy he was put in the stands.

The guy is a UFA, and I will bring him back to Montreal.

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I would resign him.
Kosto should be re-signed before. As much as Begin is a good guy and loves it here, he's pretty much done and takes stupid penalties.

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04-25-2009, 03:30 PM
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I feel like he was a great guy in the locker room, but his play on the ice has regressed as the years passed. He was an absolute beast in 2005-2006, but he did take costly and stupid penalties (Toronto and Philadelphia).

Is it a coincidence, or every time we talk about a player being "the next captain", that player slowly regresses (Bégin, Higgins and Komisarek).

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I feel like he was a great guy in the locker room, but his play on the ice has regressed as the years passed. He was an absolute beast in 2005-2006, but he did take costly and stupid penalties (Toronto and Philadelphia).

Is it a coincidence, or every time we talk about a player being "the next captain", that player slowly regresses (Bégin, Higgins and Komisarek).

What the heck dos that mean?
The Kostitsyns. Koivu, Kovalev etc .... all have taken stupid penalties but you guys still bend over backwards with excuses for them ...

but the hard working guy with all the heart in the world, you just want to toss him to the curb..... but these are EXACTLY the kind of guys you win with in the playoffs.

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What the heck dos that mean?
The Kostitsyns. Koivu, Kovalev etc .... all have taken stupid penalties but you guys still bend over backwards with excuses for them ...

but the hard working guy with all the heart in the world, you just want to toss him to the curb..... but these are EXACTLY the kind of guys you win with in the playoffs.
I think what he means is that those penalties cost us elimination twice. No stupid penalty is excusable, it was just the circumstance and timing of his penalties.

Anyway, I'd bring him back here, but only if he realized he wouldn't play everyday. I'm not a fan of benching young players each night (like with did with D'Agostini down the stretch), so I'd like to have two guys like Laraque and Begin, who can play, but don't need to play every game.

I wouldn't even mind bringing back Dandenault as a spare forward/defenseman, so long as he didn't care if he played every night.

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04-25-2009, 08:34 PM
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i would love to see this guy back in a Habs jersey.

the team is low on effort and determination and this is exactly what this guy brings to a team.

100% coeur.


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What the heck dos that mean?
The Kostitsyns. Koivu, Kovalev etc .... all have taken stupid penalties but you guys still bend over backwards with excuses for them ...

but the hard working guy with all the heart in the world, you just want to toss him to the curb..... but these are EXACTLY the kind of guys you win with in the playoffs.
I never said otherwise, but I just relied on my memory, and Bégin's were the most costly and untimely in my opinion. Remember his brutal 4 minute high stick on Wellwood at the siren at the end of the 2nd period? That sparked the Leafs to life and they scored 3 goals in the 3rd (if I remember well).

And in game 3 (I think) against Philly, the Canadiens finally managed to tie the game, and Bégin gets an unnecessary interference penalty, and Brière scored the game winner.

I never doubted his heart, his intensity or his commitment, but I just think that his play has seriously regressed (was it a confidence issue? injuries? Carbo's communication? We'll never know).

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He should retire already.

And them we should hire him as a motivator.

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He was on L'Antichambre" yesterday night. Once again, he said that Carbo was never talking to him, and even when he was playing his best hockey, he did not understand ewhy he was put in the stands.

The guy is a UFA, and I will bring him back to Montreal.
on ckac he said that he never understood what was wanted from him when carbo was the coach.

Guillaume also said that in december

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Carbo didn't want to play him so Gainey gracefully traded him where he would play. He would have been an asset against the Bruins.
as much as I like the guy, he wouldnt have changed anything..

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Lots of players are still really liked by people on this team, doesn't mean they have to play here.

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Kosto should be re-signed before. As much as Begin is a good guy and loves it here, he's pretty much done and takes stupid penalties.
Agreed, not worth taking up a roster spot.

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Begin has been awful since 2005.

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Begin has been awful since 2005.
Agreed but maybe you should look into your avatar for another example of decline

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Agreed but maybe you should look into your avatar for another example of decline
now if Montreal could only find more "declining" players still consistently putting up around a .8 PPG

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Remember his brutal 4 minute high stick on Wellwood at the siren at the end of the 2nd period?
Wasn't that high stick totally accidental and if so how was that a stupid penalty? As if he had planned it and decided to knock Wellwood's teeth off. That's unfortunate but stupid? But hey, let's not talk about the tripping minor that Koivu took while Bégin was in the penalty box, that was surely not stupid....That would be more like all the penalties that we took because we were lazy just after we started the games against Boston and we had the momentum. See, this is not exactly in the 3rd and towards the end of game, but just as stupid and just as game changing.

A stupid penalty is a penalty of hooking, tripping or holding 'cause you're just lazy and don't feel like moving your feet. A stupid penalty is a penalty of roughing 'cause you just want a revenge against somebody and you don't think of your team. But unless you don't aim for a guy's head or you don't slash a guy's stick knowing full well that it will break and you'll end up getting 2 min., chances are those penalties are more unfortunate than anything.

This guy would have killed himself for that team but hey let's ditch him, he took 2 bad penalties.....In a time when we're looking who really cares for this team, I will take him back. But in the same kind of mold, I will take Laperrière a whole lot more...


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Agreed but maybe you should look into your avatar for another example of decline
Koivu may be on the decline, but he's far from awful...

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Wasn't that high stick totally accidental and if so how was that a stupid penalty?


This guy would have killed himself for that team but hey let's ditch him, he took 2 bad penalties.....In a time when we're looking who really cares for this team, I will take him back. But in the same kind of mold, I will take Laperrière a whole lot more...
If I remember correctly, he tried to bat the puck in the air but around the same time / after the siren. It was probably an instinct move, but I got so frustrated at the play, especially knowing that the Leafs always seem to have the league's #1 power play against the Habs.

It was more stupid in the timing, with the siren sounding, the high stick, and the fact that the Leafs would get back in the game with a full 2 minute 5 on 3.

Unless your post was generalized and not directed at me only, I never said that I'd ditch him for that. I never questioned his courage or his commitment, but his contribution to the team has regressed, and I'm not sure that it would be a good thing for both parties if he came back. He'd probably have a 13th forward role, which is clearly not what he wants.

Didn't Laperrière say that he wanted to join the Habs when he was a UFA a few years ago? What happened at that time?

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He was even invited to go to a team party and Dandy's house the night of the elimination
hmmm...

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Agreed but maybe you should look into your avatar for another example of decline
Ya ok, maybe a little offensively but brings a hell of a lot more than that. At this point Begin brings what...a little energy from time to time? Anything else?

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