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03-20-2004, 09:53 PM
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Avs...grrr!

wtf 3 loses in a row and lackluster play. Whats wrong with this team? Is it the Rangers syndrome? Teetime Salami can't buy a point even if his life dephended on it. And Kariya? He needs to produce more. This is not the ducks ffs.


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wtf 3 loses in a row and lackluster play. Whats i wrong with this team? Is it the Rangers syndrome? Teetime Salami can't buy a point even if his life dephended on it. And Kariya? He needs to produce more. This is not the ducks ffs.
When you keep putting stiffs like Worrell and punks like Barnaby on the ice dont expect much good to happen.

Of course with Forsberg back your team is a whole different, and better, story.

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wtf 3 loses in a row and lackluster play. Whats i wrong with this team? Is it the Rangers syndrome? Teetime Salami can't buy a point even if his life dephended on it. And Kariya? He needs to produce more. This is not the ducks ffs.
The team is now dependent on Forsberg, similar to the Pens with Mario. No real explanation for it as the Avs have other talented players. But they play vastly differently with him in the lineup.

They are close to being under a .500 hockey club without Forsberg, and with him in the lineup they have an astronomical winning percentage this season.

Considering Forsberg's current fragility, I would say that doesn't bode well for their cup hopes this season.

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Nah, I prefer to say the East is better

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The Avs look fine to me.

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I love watching the Avs struggle. Just as much as Avs fans like watching the Canucks struggle

But why is it that when the Avs suck, so do the Canucks? And when the Canucks are playing well, so do the Avs? The division race has barely moved for a while now.

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Everytime the Avs struggle, the Canucks do. It's impossible to make up ground.

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Granato is killing the team right now. He's incompetent. The team is very poorly disciplined.

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that's what happens when you come and play the Northeast....

That's one damn tough division

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Avs were on a huge streak when Forsberg went down. After that they have struggled to get anything going. With the quality of players the Avs have it shouldn't be that important but it is. With him playing they are an elite team. Without him they sometimes struggle to get anything going. As long as most of the players are back for the playoffs, I am not all that worried.

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Sharks are going to get into 2nd in the conference tomorrow.

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I thought Chris Gratton was the savior.

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The Avs looked terrible defensively tonight. They coughed up the puck A LOT.

Their play was lackluster all night. Didn't look like they were trying.

Peter Worrell and Matthew Barnaby seemed to be on the ice a lot more than Sakic or Hedjuk or Kariya or Selanne. Maybe that impression is indicative of how poorly the big guns are playing, but it did seem like the lesser guys got a lot of playing time.

Aebischer didn't look very good at all, he would have let in 5 if the Nolan goal had counted.

Pierre Lacroix could have screwed up the team's chemistry at the deadline. He made a lot of changes real fast, and they weren't necessarily good ones either...

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I see a few things happening with the Av's
1. Forsberg hates Granato and is taking his time coming back
2. Granato's incompetence frustrates the whole team

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I see a few things happening with the Av's
1. Forsberg hates Granato and is taking his time coming back
2. Granato's incompetence frustrates the whole team
2 is probably correct but 1 isn't. Forsberg is such a competitor that if there was up to him he would play as soon as he could. I can guarantee no one is as frustrated as he is right now.

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Blake doesn't seem to be producing like he was before his injury...agree??? i have not seen many of their games since his return.

Forsberg is the main issue...he makes everyone better...even the lines he isn't on because teams still have to play to stop him...

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03-21-2004, 01:11 AM
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Its crazy the way the Avs play with and without Forsberg. I've heard of one line teams, but never one player teams. Haha, Just kidding. Anyways, maybe it has something to do with their farm club. I think its ranked #30. Seems like when you call up AHLers they play with a lot of heart. The Gratton and Barnaby trades haven't worked out so well either.

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Its crazy the way the Avs play with and without Forsberg. I've heard of one line teams, but never one player teams. Haha, Just kidding. Anyways, maybe it has something to do with their farm club. I think its ranked #30. Seems like when you call up AHLers they play with a lot of heart. The Gratton and Barnaby trades haven't worked out so well either.
I'd have to say the Kariya/Selanne signings haven't worked out too well either. I mean, Kariya you might be able to excuse because of his wrist injury, but Selanne? The guy has 30 points all freaking season. Then again, playing with 3rd liners who can't pass to him didn't help either.

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I agree with Lacroix messing with chemistry too much, was there a need to trade Derek Morris? He was clearly doing fine on the Avalanche backend, and I'd rather have him on my team than Ossi Vaananen. Chris Gratton is dead wood, the story of his career is if your team needs a big goal, he'll be the guy to get the scoring chance, but the score won't change.

Once Forsberg comes back, the Avs will go on a tear again, but will Forsberg remain in the lineup for more than 10 - 12 games? Who knows?

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When you keep putting stiffs like Worrell and punks like Barnaby on the ice dont expect much good to happen.

Of course with Forsberg back your team is a whole different, and better, story.

This is funny. I watched that game and they kept on matching the Worrell line with the Sundin line. why?

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The avs started going downhill with the trade of Chris Drury. He was by far one of the most entertaining avs to watch. Plus he wanted to say in Colorado. Oh well. Mark that up as a transaction that broke our hearts....

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The avs started going downhill with the trade of Chris Drury. He was by far one of the most entertaining avs to watch. Plus he wanted to say in Colorado. Oh well. Mark that up as a transaction that broke our hearts....
That and Granato shouldn't be coaching those guys, when you have all those star players in the line-up, you should be doing better, but he throws together some bad line combos.

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