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First line next series: Wheeler vs. Axe

View Poll Results: Axe on 1st; Wheels on 4th vs Carolina?
Keep as is; it has worked well and prob will again 39 57.35%
Switch em out; it worked against Habs, but might not against the Canes 26 38.24%
I'd prefer even more line switches 1 1.47%
I'm too excited/paranoid/nervous to even think about it at this point 2 2.94%
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04-29-2009, 11:29 AM
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First line next series: Wheeler vs. Axe

OK, we swept the Habs, so apparently all the stars aligned and no imperfections arose...

but, for this next series, do we still stick with Axe on the top line and keep Wheeler buried on the fourth? Or, should we put Wheels on the top line with Phil and Savvy, giving that line more of a scoring threat while making the fourth line more of a shutdown threat?

Talk amongst yuhselves.

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Axe stays on first unit to begin. If it ain't broke...

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Axe stays on first unit to begin. If it ain't broke...
I agree.

And if it proves broke... Then we have another option.

Personally, I like having that extra bit of skill on the 4th. It rounds out the lines a little bit and matches up a little sweeter with the Canes. But if that first line struggles, Julien has players that he can move around.

EDIT: That said, I'm not voting for any of these options. I'm not sure that Axe on the top line will "probably work" or not. I just don't see any reason to change things until given reason to.

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04-29-2009, 11:36 AM
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Wheeler still needs to be eased in I think. He struggled down the stretch and looked like a 4th liner at best during the first round.

It's all good though. We're in a position with our depth to ease the rook in. Julien is a smart man and if Wheels shows he's capable, he'll get the promotion.

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Need a goal? Put Wheeler out there...

Stop a goal? Put Axe out there...

Did we NEED to score against the Habs the whole series? No.

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Voted for keeping it as is. My primary take on it - spread the wealth across the lines. B's are pretty even with the Canes up front and the only clear advantage is the ability to roll all four lines throughout the games. Wheels will settle and pick it up on the fourth line, but he did not impressed me in the first series. Axe played great.

A game or two in, I may change my opinion, depending how the first games go.

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Axe stays on first unit to begin. If it ain't broke...
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I trust Julien to do the right thing

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i voted to keep it...Canes 4th line has some pop (see game tying goal vs. evils in game 7) and Wheels gives our 4th line some pop to go with their grit...Axe is a playoff player and he lets savvy and kess play fast and take chances with him watching their six...son't remember Kess or Savvy's numbers SUFFERING in rd. 1...can always shake it up if we need better match-ups..plus we have a secret weapon waiting in the wings - - The bitzanator!!

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I would leave it like that,Axe played well and he's going to have a much bigger role now against Staal

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Keep as is until Bruins have a 3 goal lead, then switch Wheeler and Axe.

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I would leave it like that,Axe played well and he's going to have a much bigger role now against Staal
Do you think that's the line that is going to match up against Eric Staal?

I think I'd almost rather have Bergie out there, taking that line out with some physical play.


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Do you think that's the line that is going to match up against Eric Staal?

I think I'd almost rather have Bergie out there, taking that line out with some physical play.

Staal vs. Bergeron line and Chara/Ward pairing all series. Count on it

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Staal vs. Bergeron line and Chara/Ward pairing all series. Count on it
And if Julien manages that, the Hurricanes are going down I think.

I don't envy ANY line that would be up against that in the playoffs.

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Im not going to question Claude, leave as is. I'm sort of curious what forward lines he's going to try and get out vs which Canes lines. There's some interesting mismatches on both sides.

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If we are holding a lead, have Axe on the top unit. If we are tied or needing goals move Wheeler onto the top line instead. Simple! =)

I'd keep Lucic with Ryder and Krejci, without a doubt!

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Need a goal? Put Wheeler out there...

Stop a goal? Put Axe out there...


Did we NEED to score against the Habs the whole series? No.
This is my answer, once again. Claude seems to try to keep his centers and right wings together, and floats his left wings around depending on what's needed at the time.

I'm sure he'll also consider Looch on the top line if he feels Savard and Kessel are being outmuscled by the line and pairing that the opposing coach is trying to match up against them. It's a chess game. And it's nice to have so many options, he must be in heaven coaching this team.

Edit to say: I didn't vote in the poll since I don't really consider any of the options to really agree with my POV.


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I voted to leave it as is. Seattle Bruin makes a good point that if the top line is being outmuscled, just put Lucic in Axe's place. I can't wait for this thing to start!

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Staal vs. Bergeron line and Chara/Ward pairing all series. Count on it
I like this a lot. Yes I do.

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I'm impressed, I haven't seen good push-polling at HFBoards in a while. Bravo, OP!

A sizeable portion of people were considering scratching Wheeler for Bitz in the first round. I think it's safe to say that we stand pat for a little while.

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OK, we swept the Habs, so apparently all the stars aligned and no imperfections arose...

but, for this next series, do we still stick with Axe on the top line and keep Wheeler buried on the fourth? Or, should we put Wheels on the top line with Phil and Savvy, giving that line more of a scoring threat while making the fourth line more of a shutdown threat?

Talk amongst yuhselves.
Switch em out. Yea we swept the Habs with Axe riding shotgun with Savvy... but I'm willing to go out on a limb in saying we would have gotten the same result if Wheels was up on the first line.

IMO, Savvy and his line were largely unsuccessful 5 on 5 vs the Habs... and going forward we are going to need 3 scoring lines clicking. Bergerons line is used against other teams top lines, so I don't see the need for Axe on Savards line, plus Wheeler is pretty solid defensively and obviously miles better offensively than Axe. Its common sense to me to put players in the best position for success... and Axe on the 1st and Wheels on the 4th isn't doing that.

However, the lines in practice today stayed the same... and I anticipate thats how Julien will keep them.

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with the 'ain't broke' crowd
Which 'aint broke' crowd? It wasn't broke when it was fixed the first time. (As in we were rolling along swimmingly with Axe on the 4th and Wheels on the 1st prior to Julien flipping them for the Habs series)

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Which 'aint broke' crowd? It wasn't broke when it was fixed the first time. (As in we were rolling along swimmingly with Axe on the 4th and Wheels on the 1st prior to Julien flipping them for the Habs series)
Axe w/ Savvy. It gives us 4 lines that can score, possess the puck and create chances - when Axey-pants has been on the 4th line that line wasn't as successful as the when it is a combo of Yelle, Thorts and one of Bitz, Wheeler and even Chuckie.

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Its common sense to me to put players in the best position for success... and Axe on the 1st and Wheels on the 4th isn't doing that.
I agree with that, but don't think Wheels failed on the fourth line- he might not get the same offensive opportunity, but it's a good experience for him, he's been more physical(not overly, but he'll learn to win more battles for the puck that way), which is a good tool to add to his bag-o-tricks, no?


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