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per TSN - Flyers have contacted the agent of Ray Emery

View Poll Results: How do you feel about Ray Emery 'possibly' joining the Flyers?
I think he'd be a great replacement to Biron as a starter 29 18.13%
Maybe as a backup 34 21.25%
NO THANK YOU 97 60.63%
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05-04-2009, 10:17 AM
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I am so sick of this crap......It can be someone other than the goaltender's fault, does this organization realize that????
I agree with this, but I think in this case the problem is Biron seems to want a bigger contract than they think he is worth.

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05-04-2009, 10:19 AM
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I've seen the video. I wouldn't want anyone touching me after being yanked for having a bad game either.
Too bad. I guarantee that the contract he signed said he had to wear the hat.

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05-04-2009, 10:19 AM
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Personally, if the Flyers can get him for $1.5, I'd be alright with the move. I would prefer they also get Harding or something though, get a young guy with potential incase Emery turns sour.
Between the pipes, stopping pucks...good value.

Otherwise, for me, not worth the potential fireworks. The guy shows up late for practise (cue the Iverson video), fights his fellow teammates, and is an egotistical asshat.

You can't (not talking about you) not like Carcillo and question his selfish motives and repuation and then be open to adding a guy like Emery.

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I've seen the video. I wouldn't want anyone touching me after being yanked for having a bad game either.
If it were Emery's first incident, I'd give him the benefit fo the doubt...but it's not, therefor I'm not.

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05-04-2009, 10:21 AM
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Between the pipes, stopping pucks...good value.

Otherwise, for me, not worth the potential fireworks. The guy shows up late for practise (cue the Iverson video), fights his fellow teammates, and is an egotistical asshat.

You can't (not talking about you) not like Carcillo and question his selfish motives and repuation and then be open to adding a guy like Emery.



If it were Emery's first incident, I'd give him the benefit fo the doubt...but it's not, therefor I'm not.
asshat is not censored? nice. If assclown isn't either, I will have a field day.

EDIT: VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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05-04-2009, 10:35 AM
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Between the pipes, stopping pucks...good value.

Otherwise, for me, not worth the potential fireworks. The guy shows up late for practise (cue the Iverson video), fights his fellow teammates, and is an egotistical asshat.

You can't (not talking about you) not like Carcillo and question his selfish motives and repuation and then be open to adding a guy like Emery.



If it were Emery's first incident, I'd give him the benefit fo the doubt...but it's not, therefor I'm not.
Once again, I would have been open to acquiring Carcillo as a FA or minor trade someday, but it's just that holmer traded a fan favorite for him

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05-04-2009, 10:41 AM
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Once again, I would have been open to acquiring Carcillo as a FA or minor trade someday, but it's just that holmer traded a fan favorite for him
Scottie freakin Upshall. haha

I like the guy, but seriously, come on.

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05-04-2009, 10:44 AM
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Why is anyone thinking that this is a good idea at all???? He is more detremental in the locker room then sean avery is

NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, STOP......... NO..... PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF CHRIST NO.

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Scottie freakin Upshall. haha

I like the guy, but seriously, come on.
You don't think he was a fan favorite? How many posts of UPSHALL SMASH did everyone post in every GDT?

I'm not saying Scottie is god or anything it's just that when Opus said "if you are opposed to Carcillo... etc" Emery would be acquired for just Cap space while Carcillo was acquired for assets. I'm just saying that it's a different situation

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05-04-2009, 10:46 AM
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Once again, I would have been open to acquiring Carcillo as a FA or minor trade someday, but it's just that holmer traded a fan favorite for him
Wasn't talking about you, or anybody for that matter. Just about the general concern of his repuation hurting the team.

Ray Emery is worse, IMO.


- Repeatedly late for practise
- Pulled over for DUI
- Charged with road rage in a sepearate incident
- Fighting teammates
- Fighting coaching staff


The guy is a ****ing headcase.

This isn't about stopping pucks, this is about Ray Emery the human being. The man is troubled, he's playing in Russia for a reason.

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Wasn't talking about you, or anybody for that matter. Just about the general concern of his repuation hurting the team.

Ray Emery is worse, IMO.


- Repeatedly late for practise
- Pulled over for DUI
- Charged with road rage in a sepearate incident
- Fighting teammates
- Fighting coaching staff


The guy is a ****ing headcase.
I know all about Emery I follow the sens a lot. I would just hope that playing in Russia has smartened him up.

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05-04-2009, 10:49 AM
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Wasn't talking about you, or anybody for that matter. Just about the general concern of his repuation hurting the team.

Ray Emery is worse, IMO.


- Repeatedly late for practise
- Pulled over for DUI
- Charged with road rage in a sepearate incident
- Fighting teammates
- Fighting coaching staff


The guy is a ****ing headcase.

This isn't about stopping pucks, this is about Ray Emery the human being. The man is troubled, he's playing in Russia for a reason.
In Russia, the puck stops YOU!

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05-04-2009, 10:56 AM
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I know all about Emery I follow the sens a lot. I would just hope that playing in Russia has smartened him up.
Just over 3 months ago, as posted, he lost it on the trainer.

I'm all for this guy being in the NHL, as I like guys that cross the line and add a little piss and vinegar to the show. Take for instance, Sean Avery. They bring us, the fans interesting quotes, soundbites and videos. Just because I like them in the game though, doesn't mean I want them in the orange and black. We have enough of a repuation, had one before we landed Carcillo...will always have one. Players of this ilk should be avoided at all costs. Especially in the goalie position, where this (as you know) this long standed "GOALIE CONTROVERSY".

Signing Ray Emery would be nothing short of irresponsible.


But hey...

Perhaps Holmgren can sign Ray Emery, and then fire John Stevens and hire Ted Nolan. Then, with any luck Snider can change the team name to...

The Philadelphia Rehabs.

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I don't want him because I don't think he's a skilled goaltender.

But I love how everyone here loves Ron Hextall but some don't want Ray Emery because of his temper. Am I the only one that finds something wrong with this?

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I don't want him because I don't think he's a skilled goaltender.

But I love how everyone here loves Ron Hextall but some don't want Ray Emery because of his temper. Am I the only one that finds something wrong with this?
A similar thought crossed my mind. However, Ray Emery is an asshat while Hexy was a badass.

Very different IMHO.

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Wasn't talking about you, or anybody for that matter. Just about the general concern of his repuation hurting the team.

Ray Emery is worse, IMO.


- Repeatedly late for practise
- Pulled over for DUI
- Charged with road rage in a sepearate incident
- Fighting teammates
- Fighting coaching staff


The guy is a ****ing headcase.

This isn't about stopping pucks, this is about Ray Emery the human being. The man is troubled, he's playing in Russia for a reason.
1. Late for practice shouldn't be bad, Flyers always seem to start 15-20 minutes late.

2. DUI's are really easy to get, my roommate got one and she never drinks and drives, had two beers, waited an hour and still came up positive.

3. Considering I'm an NJ resident, I don't see a problem with this.

4. Maybe fighting with coaches will liven Stevens up to actually motivate the team.

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05-04-2009, 11:06 AM
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A similar thought crossed my mind. However, Ray Emery is an asshat while Hexy was a badass.

Very different IMHO.
Hextall was a HUGE asshat, but we loved him anyway. Every team in the league hated him. Emery's temper is identical.

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Hextall was a HUGE asshat, but we loved him anyway. Every team in the league hated him. Emery's temper is identical.
Hextall, IIRC, won the Conn Smythe and Vezina in his couple seasons in the league.

Emery would be coming back to league from a time-out (if you will).


Slightly different, no?



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So did Arturs Irbe and Jon Casey



They brought in Cechmanek to be Boucher's backup. Boucher held out and signed a huge contract prior to the next season. They wouldn't have done that if they intended on Cechmanek being the starter, Boucher had also not been a full-time starter yet.
I know that GKJ....I didnt feel the need to write a novel for each situation....they did, but Boucher faltered a little his 2nd season and they automatically handed the job over to Cechmanek. Boucher actually played pretty well his last season here. The point is, they expect a goalie to come in here and be Bernie Parent immediately. Sometimes it takes a couple years, sometimes players have an off year.

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I agree with this, but I think in this case the problem is Biron seems to want a bigger contract than they think he is worth.
Who knows what he is asking for....However, on the open market he is going to get a little more than he is probably worth cause there arent many goalies available.

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Hextall was a HUGE asshat, but we loved him anyway. Every team in the league hated him. Emery's temper is identical.
Wow is this way off....Hextall's temper was directed at refs and other teams, not his coaches and teammates.

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Sure I'll take him....


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I don't want him because I don't think he's a skilled goaltender.

But I love how everyone here loves Ron Hextall but some don't want Ray Emery because of his temper. Am I the only one that finds something wrong with this?
Can't believe it took me five pages to find something I agree with. I think Emery would kind of fit with the group we have on the team now. He clearly likes to rage, so he'd probably become Lupul and Hartnell's third BFF. I just don't want to go into the season with a guy with a career .907 save percentage.

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He is more detremental in the locker room then sean avery is
You must be joking.

Wherever Ray goes I'll be cheering hard for him. The hate he gets is ridiculous.

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Emery for 1 mill and trade for Harding and sign him to 2 million , we make some $$ on the Cap. Big reward if he pans out

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Wow is this way off....Hextall's temper was directed at refs and other teams, not his coaches and teammates.
So, just to clarify, you're saying that Emery's never gotten pissed at the refs and that Hextall never once got angry with anyone on his team, management, or coaching staff?

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Emery for 1 mill and trade for Harding and sign him to 2 million , we make some $$ on the Cap. Big reward if he pans out
if we can do this, then get it done. as long as emery isn't our only move for a goalie (and it won't be since niitty won't be back and a move for emery means biron won't be either), i'm fine with it. worst thing that happens is that emery comes here, sucks ass/stirs **** up, and we waive him and move on with whoever else we get.

i can definitely see emery coming here for cheap, staying focused, and putting up some good numbers.


Here are Emery's shots against and save percentage for the last 3 nhl years. For comparison, Marty's are below.

Emery
2007-2008 31GP 25.81 SA (.89)
2006-2007 58 GP 29.16 SA (.918)
2005-2006 39 GP 26.8 SA (.902)

Biron
2008-2009 55 GP 31.24 SA (.915)
2007-2008 62 GP 30.1 SA (.918)

Emery's Cup year and Biron's Conference Final year yielded similar numbers.

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