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05-05-2009, 11:31 AM
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Zaripov will play against Belarus.


I hope Frolov moves to RW and Zherdev sits.

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05-05-2009, 12:49 PM
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Does somebody have statistics from last 10 years or so from thes FIN-USA-games? It feels like we haven't lost to USA for ages.

It will be tough this time, tho. If we keep the same intensity as we did against Canada, we'll go to the next round. But that's only what I believe
FIN vs. USA in World Championship games since 1992:

CZE '92: FIN wins 6-1

Notable: Juha Riihijärvi and Mika Nieminen with two goals apiece.

GER '93: FIN-USA 1-1

ITA '94: FIN wins 7-2 (7-0)

Notable: Jere Lehtinen scores 2 goals. Bill Lindsay get's caught in the doping test after the game for using banned substances and Finland is credited with a 7-0 victory. Mika Strömberg and John Lilley engage in a nice fight with Lilley coming out on top.

ITA '94: FIN wins SF 8-0

Notable: Perhaps one of the best periods of hockey played by Finland in the first (6-0). Mikko Mäkelä scores two goals.

SWE '95: FIN-USA 4-4

Notable: One of the most incredible comebacks by Finland in international hockey. Finand outshoots the US by a 62-19 margin in an unforgettable game where Pat Jablonski stands on his head. Todd Harkins and Tim Bergland are a constant threat in this game. The Finns are down 4-1 to start the third but manage to tie the game with little over two minutes left with a seeing eye shot off the post and in by Mika Strömberg. A tie and one point is huge for Finland since they avoid meeting Russia in the QF's and get to play France instead.

FIN '97: FIN wins 2-0

Notable: The final game of the tournament for Finland is a meaningless one since the chance to medal has already gone before this game.

NOR '99: FIN wins 4-3

Notable: A frustrated Tim Thomas makes 28 saves in the second period and finishes the game with 53 in a tough loss.

GER '01: USA wins 4-1

Notable: Miikka Kiprusoff is pulled after letting in 3 goals on 12 shots and is largely blamed for the loss and subsequently demoted to backup duty for the rest of the tournament.

GER '01: FIN wins SF 3-1

Notable: Sami Kapanen has a monster game scoring two goals in the third to break a 1-1 tie with under 10 minutes to go and wins it for Finland.

SWE '02: FIN wins QF 3-1

Notable: The Finns miss two (!) penalty shots (Kimmo Rintanen, Vesa Viitakoski) in this game but still manage to win.

CZE '04: FIN wins 4-2

Notable: The Finns are down 2-0 early but they come back and win the game in convincing fashion. "Big" Lasse Pirjetä comes up big in the third with two goals.

AUT '05: FIN-USA 4-4

Notable: An exciting third sees USA take a 3-1 lead with Finland coming back once again to take a 4-3 lead. Timo Pärssinen has a breakaway chance to put the game away but can't score on Ty Conklin. Mark Parrish scores the equalizer with 40 seconds to go as Niklas Bäckström can't keep the puck in his glove.

LAT '06: FIN wins 4-0

Notable: Antero Niittymäki records his second shutout of the tournament.

RUS '07: FIN wins QF 5-4 in SO's

Notable: Zach Parise hits the post in overtime. Kari Lehtonen saves all of the American shootout attempts. Jere Lehtinen is the unlikely hero with the shootout winner. Jere was ice-cold the entire game and on the ice for all 4 US goals but is the only one to score in the shootout.

CAN '08: FIN wins 3-2

Notable: Another come from behind win for Finland. Down 2-0 entering the third a Swedish video goal judge scores an all-important goal for Finland to cut the lead in half. The goal is later credited to Ville Koistinen. John Tortorella is absolutely livid behind the bench as everyone can clearly see the shot went through/under the net and in. Mikko Koivu eventually scores the winner with under 4 minutes to go. Anssi Salmela and David Backes square off at the end with Salmela getting his jersey all bloodied up.

CAN '08: FIN wins QF 3-2 in OT

Notable: With 5 minutes remaining in regulation team Finland is sitting on a comfortable 2-0 lead when USA scores two quick goals in under a minute to force the game to overtime. Sami Lepistö eventually scores the game winner.

Finland has a 12-1-3 record in 16 games against the USA in the WC's since 1992.

FIN vs. USA in Olympic/World Cup games since 1992:

FRA '92: USA wins 4-1

NOR '94: FIN wins QF 6-1

USA '02: USA wins 6-0

Notable: Team USA embarrasses team Finland in the opening game of the Olympics infont of the home crowd. The game is scoreless up until the halfway mark when USA explodes offensively. John LeClair scores a hat trick and backup Mike Dunham records the shutout.

World Cup '04: FIN wins SF 2-1

Notable: Finland spoils the party as everything is set up for a dream final between Canada and the US. The victory is heralded as the most significant in Finnish hockey history as Raimo Summanen's team upsets the favorites with Miikka Kiprusoff and Saku Koivu leading the way.

ITA '06: FIN wins QF 4-3

Notable: Derian Hatcher knocks three teeth out of Teemu Selänne's mouth on a follow through. Sami Salo scores a short-handed goal only to injure himself later on in the game. Niittymäki comes up huge at the end with USA out shooting Finland 15-3 in the final period.

The bottom line: Finland has never lost to the USA in an elimination game in international competition.


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05-05-2009, 01:35 PM
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The bottom line: Finland has never lost to the USA in an elimination game in international competition.
1991, home games, Turku Arena. Todd Krygier scores with a rather weak shot in the third to make it 2 - 1. Finland would've needed at least a tie to advance. I still remember that goal.

Link, in Finnish, http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/arkisto.s...2003/04/165381

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05-05-2009, 01:53 PM
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No one is going to beat the Cze Republic.....not Russia or Canada or Sweden...Canada's forwards are too small...we need a Nash or Thornton or both over there....Fischer & Doan are good pluggers...but it won't be enough.

Cze Rep. vs. Russia - Gold Medal game
Canada vs. Finland - Bronze Medal game

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05-05-2009, 02:32 PM
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The bottom line: Finland has never lost to the USA in an elimination game in international competition.
I was recalling a game in a
tournament played in Finland
where USofA advanced to the
medal round by winning us in
the decisive game.

EDIT: teme already mentioned
it was in Turku 1991.

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First time Latvia made it to the Qf since 2004 when they lost to Sweden 4-1. This test is a little bit harder i think.

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No one is going to beat the Cze Republic.....not Russia or Canada or Sweden...Canada's forwards are too small...we need a Nash or Thornton or both over there....Fischer & Doan are good pluggers...but it won't be enough.

Cze Rep. vs. Russia - Gold Medal game
Canada vs. Finland - Bronze Medal game
I'm quite certain Canada has already beaten Czech Republic in this tournament.

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05-05-2009, 03:33 PM
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I'm quite certain Canada has already beaten Czech Republic in this tournament.
the Czechs were shorthanded the whole game. If they might have stayed out of the box they would of had a chance. Plus from watching them they look more motivated after that game.

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Still, I don't think Czech Republic is the favorite to take the title.

Maybe they'll prove me wrong, we'll see.

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Still, I don't think Czech Republic is the favorite to take the title.
I'd have to agree with MaxV.
Neither is FIN, USA nor SWE.
The biggest favs to win the
title are surely CAN & RUS.

But, we'll see.
What comes, comes.

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I'm quite certain Canada has already beaten Czech Republic in this tournament.

Yup, they did.

But 5-on-5 CZE was creating
a lot of chances, maybe even
more than CAN.

CAN has a devastating PP and
yes, that can take them all the
way this year. Overall stats of
this year support RUS.

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05-05-2009, 05:07 PM
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My God, is there anyone that thinks the USA will beat Finland? I know our defense has sucked, I know our goalie is full of holes, and I know we don't look motivated out there. But man, we have a player named "John-Michael." How can you lose with a name like that?

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My God, is there anyone that thinks the USA will beat Finland? I know our defense has sucked, I know our goalie is full of holes, and I know we don't look motivated out there. But man, we have a player named "John-Michael." How can you lose with a name like that?
It would be better if his name was Jan-Michael, but I catch your drift. The Finns are always a tough match-up, but the U.S. certainly has a a chance.

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It would be better if his name was Jan-Michael, but I catch your drift. The Finns are always a tough match-up, but the U.S. certainly has a a chance.
gonna be a close game 4:3 SUOMI, imho

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I'd have to agree with MaxV.
Neither is FIN, USA nor SWE.
The biggest favs to win the
title are surely CAN & RUS.

But, we'll see.
What comes, comes.
You guys misunderstood me because i'm not trying to say they will beat Canada but they owned the game. Canada is coming off a shootout heartbreaker and the Czechs look very good atm. Im thinking this one could possibly be a test for Canada.

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No one is going to beat the Cze Republic.....not Russia or Canada or Sweden...Canada's forwards are too small...we need a Nash or Thornton or both over there....Fischer & Doan are good pluggers...but it won't be enough.

Cze Rep. vs. Russia - Gold Medal game
Canada vs. Finland - Bronze Medal game
What? We already beat them.

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the Czechs were shorthanded the whole game. If they might have stayed out of the box they would of had a chance. Plus from watching them they look more motivated after that game.
The Canadians had more penalty time then the Czechs.

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Nervous about Belarus.If Russia get by them i smell a good old typical pre 08 Russian choke in the Semi's. Yeah..i don't like to get my hopes up about Russia.

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But man, we have a player named "John-Michael." How can you lose with a name like that?
See Colorado Avalanche

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You guys misunderstood me because i'm not trying to say they will beat Canada but they owned the game...
I wrote similar thoughts here,
just after the message you
quoted.

CZE looked like they were
in control in 5-on-5, but CAN's
PP is a big threat to anyone.

Plus I wouldn't say CZE or SWE
has no chances against CAN.
This year though maybe CZE
would seem slightly stronger
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Concerning the game USA-Finland I really hope USA will not play their dirty and unfair game like they did it against Switzerland.

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CZE will win with 5-0 or something,Sweden is extremly soft( softest team in the world).



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Concerning the game USA-Finland I really hope USA will not play their dirty and unfair game like they did it against Switzerland.


3-2 USA. Guess there's a first time for everything.

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