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05-26-2009, 07:26 PM
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Cam Ward is a better goalie than Steve Mason, just sayin.

That said, Pittsburgh is a team with a mission and I can't wait to see how they do against Detroit in the Cup finals..

Detroit vs. Pittsburgh for the second time in a row will be the cup battle of the century thus far. Remember, Pittsburgh is now experienced.

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05-26-2009, 07:33 PM
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Cam Ward is a better goalie than Steve Mason
Not on that goal he wasn't.

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Detroit vs. Pittsburgh for the second time in a row will be the cup battle of the century thus far. Remember, Pittsburgh is now experienced.
Experience is everything.

If you have it, you donít need it. If you need it, you donít have it. If you have it, you need more of it. If you have more of it, you donít need less of it. You need it to get it. And you certainly need it to get more of it. But if you donít already have any of it to begin with, you canít get any of it to get started, which means you really have no idea how to get it in the first place, do you? You can share it, sure. You can even stockpile it if you like. But you canít fake it. Wanting it. Needing it. Wishing for it. The point isÖ if youíve never had any of itÖ everÖ people just seem to know.

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Of course Ward is better goalie that Mason right now, he's won a Cup and a Conn Smythe while Mason still has baby fat on his face.

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05-26-2009, 08:34 PM
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Way to go out on a limb with that Cam Ward call, Robert.

What's next? You gonna inform us that Roy is better than Mason? Was Hasek in his prime better than Mason now?

I am not sure.

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Way to go out on a limb with that Cam Ward call, Robert.

What's next? You gonna inform us that Roy is better than Mason? Was Hasek in his prime better than Mason now?

I am not sure.
Matthew you are a pain in my neck but truth be told I like it! You make me work...

When Mr. Mason wins a Stanley Cup ring he will not only gain my ultimate respect (I do like him as far as a rookie goes) but he will be in the class of Cam Ward.

It's a big league Matthew, we need need big league players in Columbus to be a winner.


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05-26-2009, 08:58 PM
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05-26-2009, 09:06 PM
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****, I really don't want to watch the Cup finals now. Maybe I'll watch if there's a game 7.

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Fluery needs some kudos as well..., he is one hell of a an experienced goalie yet to win the cup...

I'm shocked Carolina was swept, in fact it's hard to believe; but the Pens are for real folks. How the hell can they be so good since 2000 and the CBJ are still so mediocre?

I'm all in for Pittsburgh to win the Cup-they are talented, they are dedicated, and most important they are well managed.

As much as I hate Crosby he's a winner-three times as good as Rick Nash.

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05-26-2009, 09:13 PM
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I'm a Pittsburgh boy so the only thing that could top the Pens hoisting the Cup is the CBJ taking the hardware. The optimist in me says revenge can be sweet. The pessimist in me says two losses in a row - to the hated Wings no less - would really suck.

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****, I really don't want to watch the Cup finals now. Maybe I'll watch if there's a game 7.
Ditto. I want to see Detroit and Pittsburgh lose equally for the schadenfreude, but they can't both lose. Maybe Chicago can pull off a miracle. A miracle... ON ICE!

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05-26-2009, 09:21 PM
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I'm a Pittsburgh boy so the only thing that could top the Pens hoisting the Cup is the CBJ taking the hardware. The optimist in me says revenge can be sweet. The pessimist in me says two losses in a row - to the hated Wings no less - would really suck.
Be proud, Mario is one of the best owners in the league.

This Stanley Cup finals is going to be the best in a decade...GO PENS!

Edit: the experienced youth vs. the experienced old....


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If Detroit wins the Cup, it's because Crosby touched the trophy.

Go Pens.

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As much as I hate Crosby he's a winner-three times as good as Rick Nash.

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Nash couldn't lead water down a hill.

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the Pens are for real folks. How the hell can they be so good since 2000 and the CBJ are still so mediocre?
It's not fair to say "since 2000", because they parlayed some really bad seasons into the #1, #2(who was a #1 ANY other year), and #1 picks in successive years. Meanwhile, we always pick (the wrong guy at) 6th or 7th, and our only #1 is a tradeup.

Maybe in 3 years our rookies will have filled out to where the Pens superstars are now.


What? It could happen!!!

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It's not fair to say "since 2000", because they parlayed some really bad seasons into the #1, #2(who was a #1 ANY other year), and #1 picks in successive years. Meanwhile, we always pick (the wrong guy at) 6th or 7th, and our only #1 is a tradeup.

Maybe in 3 years our rookies will have filled out to where the Pens superstars are now.


What? It could happen!!!
Matthew makes me work, I make you (as in the CBJ nation) think....

There is no excuse for the Pens to be in the Cup finals twice in the last two years and we (the lowly Blue Jackets) are still trying to figure out who our number one center is?

Our organization must do better...

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05-27-2009, 01:04 AM
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Matthew makes me work, I make you (as in the CBJ nation) think....

There is no excuse for the Pens to be in the Cup finals twice in the last two years and we (the lowly Blue Jackets) are still trying to figure out who our number one center is?

Our organization must do better...
Survey says...

Derick Brassard.

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Experience is everything.

If you have it, you donít need it. If you need it, you donít have it. If you have it, you need more of it. If you have more of it, you donít need less of it. You need it to get it. And you certainly need it to get more of it. But if you donít already have any of it to begin with, you canít get any of it to get started, which means you really have no idea how to get it in the first place, do you? You can share it, sure. You can even stockpile it if you like. But you canít fake it. Wanting it. Needing it. Wishing for it. The point isÖ if youíve never had any of itÖ everÖ people just seem to know.
All that is missing is the whistling, the old spice bottle and one Boomstick.

...as far as hockey goes, the Pens looked impressive to me... to beat a team that was playing as clutch as the Canes were the way they did... wow. Could be a great finals this year. Watching these games also makes me think the Jackets have a LONG way to go to get this good, but at least they are heading in the right direction instead of going in reverse.

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Always thought Fedorov was the consummate professional who was, unfortunately, on the downside of his career.

Victim of the MacLean hype machine, and those who listened to it, more than anything else, in my opinion.

I used to torment my sister by teasing Fedorov for being old and slow at times, but I never mistook that for a lack of heart.

I don't blame players for their paychecks unless they clearly dog it after having one great contract-year season. Fedorov wasn't worth what he was paid while with the Jackets, but he didn't put a gun to a GM's head, back in the day, to get the contract.

I thought the team missed Fedorov's play after he was gone. We've never had a plethora of puck carriers, and he was one of the few. He was also great at making the first pass, calming the game down, and so on. If we expected him to never age, that was our own fault.
I agree completely. I think he's expected to play a certain role on the Caps, not to be the sole savior of the team. The guy is class and I'll always respect the fact that he was at one point in time the best player in the league (and probably the world) IMO. Mid 90's Fedorov was something amazing to witness.

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05-27-2009, 09:22 AM
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Nash couldn't lead water down a hill.
In one season as captain he did better than Adam Foote ever did. He's the least of the team's problems right now.

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I'm shocked Carolina was swept, in fact it's hard to believe; but the Pens are for real folks. How the hell can they be so good since 2000 and the CBJ are still so mediocre?
They parlayed some terrible years into great draft picks and didn't miss on the picks. And added some good role players around the picks, not to mention they have a bonafide number one defenseman in Gonchar who is also one of the best PPQB's. To answer your question:

Crosby, Malkin, Gonchar, Fleury, (Hossa last year), Staal, ect. Their talent level is much higher than the Blue Jackets.

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There is no excuse for the Pens to be in the Cup finals twice in the last two years and we (the lowly Blue Jackets) are still trying to figure out who our number one center is?

Our organization must do better...
Hard to miss on picks when from 2003-2006 you're picking #1 (Fleury), #2 (Malkin), #1 (Crosby), #2 (Staal). I'm still not convinced the 2005 (Crosby Sweepstakes) draft wasn't fixed by Bettman anyhow ala Patrick Ewing.

To put that in perspective, if we had the reverse of those draft spots from 2003-2006 (#2, #1, #2, #1) our roster would consist of: Eric Staal, Alexander Ovechkin, Bobby Ryan, and Erik Johnson.

There isn't a doubt in my mind that our team would be competing for the Conference Championship right now with those players.

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Thank you, BrassardCalder and dru, for reiterating what I said 8 posts up ^^

That must mean I was right, for once.

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Incredible save by Huet to send Hawks/Wings to OT.

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Incredible save by Huet to send Hawks/Wings to OT.
This whole game has been pretty freaking phenomenal!

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