I like Komirasek but if he gets anything near 6 million I really wish him the best of luck cause he won't be getting that from Gainey.No way he should be making more money then Markov!
Bang on!!! No more than 4M in a cap world...let him go for anything more, he was a true dissappointment this year...
i can see gainey signing him to 5 mill over 5 years and then dealing hamerlik - especially if emelin comes over
Why would he deal Hamrlik?
We need more top 4 D, not less. Emelin would be a bottom pairing D-man next year, if he is even in the nhl. AHL may be his destination in the short term..
My question is: if Komisarek walks, who gets his minutes? For all his faults, Komisarek draws the toughest assignments, plays top minutes against top forwards, and doesn't get torched. That's something that will need to be replaced, somehow, if he walks. If we have a backup plan down our sleeves, a JayBo type say, then sure, let him walk. If not, we need to retain Komi or be prepared to get torched.
Who gets his minutes? Obviously someone from the outside needs to replace him, even if they are making $6 million or even $7.5 million.... I just dont believe that teams need to sink those kind of resources into a uni dimensional guy. I can guarantee you that the only reason Komisarek is getting so much attention is because he played in MTL. If he was in an obscure market (say like Columbus), his highest value (last year) would be in the Regehr range. I have no idea why we need to act like the Yankees when we definitely dont have the cap space to be.
Players like Visnovsky, Boyle, etc . get dealt all the time. There will be more of them out there this summer with teams being scared of the cap. It's a matter of getting a decent puck mover and you have fixed the hole left by Komisarek. Managing a team scared is managing a team run by Rejean Houle.
3)Sign 2 of the following 4:Beauchemin, Morris, Ohlund, Boynton.
I am still all for keeping Komi...even at 5 or 6 million. It is amazing how fans turn on a guy for a few months of bad play but forget how good he was for the 2 years before that. With that logic we should let the entire team walk. IF they don't resign Komi then a good d-man to go after is Zanon. He is also a very reliable defensive d-man. Beauchemin I am luke warm too. His stock has dropped this season a bit too. Stay clear away from Boynton. this guy can't seem to stay with any team for both on-ice play and off ice issues. Ohlund is good and Morris is still a far cry from what he was a few years ago. IMO.
Yandle or Koistinen are good too but both they and Zanon will be getting raises.
I think he will get 5 mil a year on a multi year contract. We should have locked him up during the season and may lose him if a crazy team jumps in (ala Islanders with an overpayment). I will be upset if I have to watch Striet with Komi as a top D pairing for the Isles for the next couple years knowing we developed them.
He had a bad year but he will bounce back next season as long as he doesn't fight Lucic. Now taking out Lucic's knee like Ulf did to Neely..that's a different story...
1) an AGM trying to get the Habs or some other team to bid up the price and use cap space;
2) someone who probably did not watch Komi play this year; and
3) someone who does not realize the extent of Komi's offensive liabilities.
That being said - someone will give 5.5+. If the Habs are deciding b/w Komi at 5.5 or JayBo at 7 - go with JayBo. In fact, I think the Habs should target JayBo and let Komi walk.
1) an AGM trying to get the Habs or some other team to bid up the price and use cap space;
2) someone who probably did not watch Komi play this year; and
3) someone who does not realize the extent of Komi's offensive liabilities.
That being said - someone will give 5.5+. If the Habs are deciding b/w Komi at 5.5 or JayBo at 7 - go with JayBo. In fact, I think the Habs should target JayBo and let Komi walk.
I am still all for keeping Komi...even at 5 or 6 million. It is amazing how fans turn on a guy for a few months of bad play but forget how good he was for the 2 years before that. With that logic we should let the entire team walk. IF they don't resign Komi then a good d-man to go after is Zanon. He is also a very reliable defensive d-man. Beauchemin I am luke warm too. His stock has dropped this season a bit too. Stay clear away from Boynton. this guy can't seem to stay with any team for both on-ice play and off ice issues. Ohlund is good and Morris is still a far cry from what he was a few years ago. IMO.
Yandle or Koistinen are good too but both they and Zanon will be getting raises.
What's with this idea that people are turning on Komi??..
Everybody here seems to want to keep him, but not at 6M.
Even if he had a similar season as the one he had last year, I wouldn't sign him at 6M. The guy is a pure defensive specialist with a very limited skill set.
Here's a lift of upcoming Defensemen UFAs this summer:
-Niedermayer
-Beauchemin
-Hnidy
-Aucoin
-Leopold
-Zubov
-JayBo
-Boynton
-Skrastin
-Bergeron
-Skoula
-Koistinen
-Zanon
-Oduya
-Morris
-Kalinin
-Gil
-Scuderi
-Ohlund
-Vaananen
Now, I want Komi resigned. I don't care about his yearly salary as long as his cap hit stays relatively low. Anything more than 4-4.5M on our cap is too much for him.
There are many interesting Dman that will probably hit open market, even if it's not the big names, adding a couple of these guys would give us very nice depth.
Bob Gainey also said he'd possibly look at the RFAs, so there's more players to add.
If Komi wants a cap hit of 6M, it's best if we tell him byebye.
I would really not mind getting him signed at $5M cap hit for 5 years.
I would...
25mil is way way too much for this player... except maybe on a 10 years contract.
At 5mil a year, I wouldn't want anything more than 2 years.
This player is way overrated, he's this year Ryan Malone... let him walk, he's not even worth 4mil a year. (I would pay 4mil a year to keep him, but it would be overpaying him).
There are plenty of solid even better defencemen than him, namely Beauchemin and Ohlund.
I am still all for keeping Komi...even at 5 or 6 million. It is amazing how fans turn on a guy for a few months of bad play but forget how good he was for the 2 years before that. With that logic we should let the entire team walk. IF they don't resign Komi then a good d-man to go after is Zanon. He is also a very reliable defensive d-man. Beauchemin I am luke warm too. His stock has dropped this season a bit too. Stay clear away from Boynton. this guy can't seem to stay with any team for both on-ice play and off ice issues. Ohlund is good and Morris is still a far cry from what he was a few years ago. IMO.
Yandle or Koistinen are good too but both they and Zanon will be getting raises.
I like Komi, but 6 mil is too much. I'm sorry, but the organization treated him well all this time, if he's going to ask for 6 million, goodbye. markov makes 5.75, no way in hell should he make more. I think he's great at what he does, but i'd rather have 2 guys at his style, than just 1 guy for double the money. I just named those guys quickly. Ohlund is like. Zanon is underrated, i'll give you that. At the worse, sign Ohlund, keep schneider for cheap for 1 year, giving time for weber, o'byrne, subban and so on to get more experience in lesser roles. There's other guys, hell, we could even sign some low maintenance quality guys and trade o'byrne in a package for a more established D-man. There's plenty of possibilities, the one I don't like is komi getting 6 million.
I like Komi, but 6 mil is too much. I'm sorry, but the organization treated him well all this time, if he's going to ask for 6 million, goodbye. markov makes 5.75, no way in hell should he make more. I think he's great at what he does, but i'd rather have 2 guys at his style, than just 1 guy for double the money. I just named those guys quickly. Ohlund is like. Zanon is underrated, i'll give you that. At the worse, sign Ohlund, keep schneider for cheap for 1 year, giving time for weber, o'byrne, subban and so on to get more experience in lesser roles. There's other guys, hell, we could even sign some low maintenance quality guys and trade o'byrne in a package for a more established D-man. There's plenty of possibilities, the one I don't like is komi getting 6 million.
Me too, it would be a team killer in the long term. MAX 4 mil or let him walk. A great signing would be 3 to 3.5 mil.
If Komi can get 6 mil, Markov should get 10 mil and JBo too. It JUST doesn't make sense. Jeeze even when compared with Phaneuf its a total joke. At 6 mil, he would be doing about as much as him.
I'm pretty sure this came out from someone who wants to see the Habs overspend, or someone who wants to take revenge on Gainey, like Lawton.
Or maybe that was Pierre McGuire, I mean, I'm sure he already sees himself as a gm already...
As a player's agent myself, I can say without a doubt, on the open market Komisarek can get around 5.5-6 easily. Look at Jeff Finger, he got 4 million on hope that he'd turn out to play a full season, translate his short season play to a full year. Montreal would be both VERY lucky and fortunate if they can retain Komisarek - PERIOD. Regardless of the contract (albeit I doubt Gainey would throw large amounts of money around him), an accurate assessment would be Montreal either signs him for 4.5-4.75(Although his play this year was less than stellar, everyone knows he will eventually turn it around) (with a STRETCH at 5.15) he's gone like many others have already said.
But in reality, we seriously frown upon what this Ass. GM is doing. This is called tampering, gouging, whatever you call it. This guy is trying to get Komi on his own team.
1)Trade his rights.
2)Sign Jaybo, if it fails, go on to #3
3)Sign 2 of the following 4:Beauchemin, Morris, Ohlund, Boynton.
Better defensive core for about 1-2 mil extra than komi alone. Not to mention whatever we acquire for his rights.
Hell, I'd even trade Hammer and sign 3 of those 4 instead, cheaper & younger plus returns for hamrlik.
Do you guys even think before posting ? So how have the Habs been at signing UFA's in the last 5 years. Not very good eh ? So how the flip are they going to convince 2 of the 4 D's you have listed there ? Unreal.
As a player's agent myself, I can say without a doubt, on the open market Komisarek can get around 5.5-6 easily. Look at Jeff Finger, he got 4 million on hope that he'd turn out to play a full season, translate his short season play to a full year. Montreal would be both VERY lucky and fortunate if they can retain Komisarek - PERIOD. Regardless of the contract (albeit I doubt Gainey would throw large amounts of money around him), an accurate assessment would be Montreal either signs him for 4.5-4.75(Although his play this year was less than stellar, everyone knows he will eventually turn it around) (with a STRETCH at 5.15) he's gone like many others have already said.
But in reality, we seriously frown upon what this Ass. GM is doing. This is called tampering, gouging, whatever you call it. This guy is trying to get Komi on his own team.
6 "easily", come on. 6 max. if more than 6, i'll apologize to you come that day
Komi will definitely be overpaid whether he stays or not. This year was a complete write-off, he simply had a terrible season. If using last year as his baseline and factor in responsible development and realistic projection of improvement, realizing more of his potential, I think 5.0-5.5 will be minimum he'll go for. I'd also sign him 5 years. Plus, I'd also make him take some boxing / self defense lessons lol.
We need stability. Markov-Komi long term pairing is something we really need to anchor our blueline. It really is a quality duo with both complementing each other nicely. That is, when Komi is playing up to his capabilities.
