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05-07-2009, 11:30 PM
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Proposal for 1st rounder : MTL - TO

If Toronto can't get Tavares, they could consider trading down, to get more nhl players while still owning a first rounder. At the same time, Montréal needs to find a 1st line center prospect. I think one will be available at number 8 of the first round. How about :

Plekanek, MTL 1st rounder, MTL 3rd rounder
for
TO 1st rounder

Would it be enough ? It depens on Plekanek's value. What would I need to add, if MTL needs to ante up to move up ten spots in the draft ? Thanks.


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05-07-2009, 11:33 PM
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If Toronto can't get Stamkos, they could consider trading down, to get more nhl players while still owning a first rounder. At the same time, Montréal needs to find a 1st line center prospect. I think one will be available at number 8 of the first round. How about :

Plekanek, MTL 1st rounder, MTL 3rd rounder
for
TO 1st rounder

Would it be enough ? It depens on Plekanek's value. What would I need to add, if MTL needs to ante up to move up ten spots in the draft ? Thanks.
donno how long you was sleeping........
but Stamkos is already drafted and played a whole season.
I really doubt you can draft a player under contract 2 times... even Toronto can't

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donno how long you was sleeping........
but Stamkos is already drafted and played a whole season.
I really doubt you can draft a player under contract 2 times... even Toronto can't


He meant Tavares.

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He meant Tavares.
shhhhhhhhhhh


lets have some fun with this

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shhhhhhhhhhh


lets have some fun with this
Okposo - Stamkos - Park for the Isles first line next year if Toronto can't get him?

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Oups. I meant Tavares. I edited it. But what would it take for Montréal to move up ?

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There is absolutely no one on Montreal's current roster that will attract the Leafs even the slightest, to even THINK about moving their 7th overall to Montreal.

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There is absolutely no one on Montreal's current roster that will attract the Leafs even the slightest, to even THINK about moving their 7th overall to Montreal.
Can't you lock this bs?

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There is absolutely no one on Montreal's current roster that will attract the Leafs even the slightest, to even THINK about moving their 7th overall to Montreal.
True. Grabovski, who couldn't crack Montreal's line-up, didn't interest the Leafs, being one of their top players...

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True. Grabovski, who couldn't crack Montreal's line-up, didn't interest the Leafs, being one of their top players...
Yes, Grabovski is on Montreal's "current roster".

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Come on guys, let's get back to the subject. What would it take for Montréal to move up ?

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Come on guys, let's get back to the subject. What would it take for Montréal to move up ?
Halak, a decent prospect (Chipchura"ish"), your own first rounder. Thats what would be fair in my opinion, but I suspect that you would have to over pay, so I'm going to say for Burke to move his pick:

Halak, either Weber or Subban, MTL 1st

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Toronto 1st, Toronto 2nd

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Toronto needs top end talent not depth. Beyond Higgins & Price, there problably isn't a single player in the Montreal organization that we would have a solid interest in.

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Halak, a decent prospect (Chipchura"ish"), your own first rounder. Thats what would be fair in my opinion, but I suspect that you would have to over pay, so I'm going to say for Burke to move his pick:

Halak, either Weber or Subban, MTL 1st

For

Toronto 1st, Toronto 2nd
I would trade Halak, Chipchura and a 1st to move up, but I wouldn't trade Halak, Weber or Subban and a first. I really liked Weber in the playoffs, he will be part of our team next year as we need a puck moving d-man, and Subban has high upside, I wouldn't trade him along MTL's first for TO's 1st.

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I would trade Halak, Chipchura and a 1st to move up, but I wouldn't trade Halak, Weber or Subban and a first. I really liked Weber in the playoffs, he will be part of our team next year as we need a puck moving d-man, and Subban has high upside, I wouldn't trade him along MTL's first for TO's 1st.
That's the thing about good proposals, you usually have to give up something you like in order to get something you want.

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Halak, a decent prospect (Chipchura"ish"), your own first rounder. Thats what would be fair in my opinion, but I suspect that you would have to over pay, so I'm going to say for Burke to move his pick:

Halak, either Weber or Subban, MTL 1st

For

Toronto 1st, Toronto 2nd
haha, what?

EDIT: I'll elaborate. Assuming Toronto had its own 2nd rounder, that would be the #37 overall.

7th + 37th

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A goalie who has yet to prove to be a number 1, a good prospect, and the 18th.

You'd have to do a lot better than that to get our pick

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The 7th pick basically represents a fresh start and a new prospect for the team picking with it. You're going to get a pretty good prospect at that spot, so it's important to a rebuilding team. I don't see the Leafs trading that kind of promise to Montreal of all places for a lower pick and unexciting prospects.

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That's the thing about good proposals, you usually have to give up something you like in order to get something you want.
The thing is that I don't see such a drastic difference, enough to move too much, between number 7 and number 18. The draft is a crap shot, why move up guys like Subban who have 1st round value along with a 1st rounder to move up ?

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The 7th pick basically represents a fresh start and a new prospect for the team picking with it. You're going to get a pretty good prospect at that spot, so it's important to a rebuilding team. I don't see the Leafs trading that kind of promise to Montreal of all places for a lower pick and unexciting prospects.
Plekanek is coming off a bad year, but he is not an unexiting prospect. He was drafted in the 3rd round and is a NHL player who has been producing.

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haha, what?

EDIT: I'll elaborate. Assuming Toronto had its own 2nd rounder, that would be the #37 overall.

7th + 37th

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A goalie who has yet to prove to be a number 1, a good prospect, and the 18th.

You'd have to do a lot better than that to get our pick
You have a good point. But Montréal has too much prospects already. They could move up, but not for a ransom's price.

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You have a good point. But Montréal has too much prospects already. They could move up, but not for a ransom's price.
There is no point for both teams to do this trade. It's far from being the first thing on Gainey's list of priorities.

Btw, in english, it's Montreal, not Montréal.

And please, edit your post. It's Plekanec not Plekanek. Have some respect for your own players. If I were to write Lapeir instead of Lapierre, you'd go ballistic.

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haha, what?

EDIT: I'll elaborate. Assuming Toronto had its own 2nd rounder, that would be the #37 overall.

7th + 37th

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A goalie who has yet to prove to be a number 1, a good prospect, and the 18th.

You'd have to do a lot better than that to get our pick
They don't, it belongs to the Islanders.

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7 to 10 is the range for OEL, Kulikov, Kadri and Cowen. There no need here to trade for a 7th pick. If Montreal trade down , it can be for the 6th pick to pick Brayden Schenn.

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There is no point for both teams to do this trade. It's far from being the first thing on Gainey's list of priorities.

Btw, in english, it's Montreal, not Montréal.

And please, edit your post. It's Plekanec not Plekanek. Have some respect for your own players. If I were to write Lapeir instead of Lapierre, you'd go ballistic.
Clearly English is not his first language. Cut him some slack.

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For this to be possible, wouldn't Bob have to return Brian's calls?

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