Broten had 300+ PGA in his career. Weight has 94. So as I said to GBC, saying he's a better defensive player would be more than fair, since he was obviously relied on for penalty killing more than Weight was.
More playoff experience can never be a bad thing. Broten has more. You're also right that he was tremendous on two playoff runs.
I think Weight, despite not having those two extra finals runs, has been individually more consistent in the playoffs. In the super low-scoring playoffs of the past decade, he has the same PPG as Broten did in the high-flying 80s.
(strangely enough, they are both within .01 PPG of eachother in the regular season and playoffs)
Considering the era difference, I'd say Weight has an offensive advantage comparable to the defensive advantage Broten has. Somewhere between marginal and significant. I'd go so far as to say Broten would be an inedequate 2nd line fill-in and Weight would be inadequate on a shutdown line.
Two very similar players in terms of their resumes. I like Weight better. But it all depends on what you want.
Yeah, very similar players. I just wanted to point out that it wouldn't be a slam dunk decision for Weight at this point by any stretch.
I don't know why my pick didn't post there... I hope it doesn't double now.
G Charlie Hodge
Two time second all star, Vezina winner, cup winner and a guy who showed he can win as a starter, part of a tandem and as a back up. He's a favourite of mine for this position and someone who should do enough work in the regular season that Sawchuk will be fresh come playoff time. Plus he's experienced enough in the post season that he can jump in if (god forbid) there's an injury.
Stanley was one of the 4th line RW players I was looking for. However, his stats arn't that impressive compare to other RW pré-NHL players still available and I don't have a lot of 'written' infos on him. I'm sure you or someone else could provide us with what you've got on him, it would be greatly appreciated.
I think that's all fair, with the exception of the playmaking. Why do you feel a guy who made the top-10 in assists once, is better than a guy who did it five times?
(in case you're curious, and you're not, the edge is 8-5 Weight in total top-20s)
I missed your post when I replied the first time. I'm inclined to believe you because you were there, and because I know he played on the Ullman line.
So, it's settled... a LW who can play RW if needed.
One thing you have to remember is that there may not have been greater depth for a role, ever, than there was for gifted playmaking centres in the 80s, when Broten played. I don't think Weight does it five times playing in the 80s. (Although I can't deny the talent of someone who finished tied for fifth in assists in 95-96). When you take a look at the competition, you see names like Gretzky, Savard, Stastny, Hawerchuk (whose assist totals would have climbed significantly with a comparable linemate), Trottier, Messier, Dionne and Perreault early in Broten's career, and then Mario, Yzerman, Gilmour, Oates and Francis later in Broten's peak years. And, of course, there were players at other positions who finished in the top 10 for assists.
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Yeah, very similar players. I just wanted to point out that it wouldn't be a slam dunk decision for Weight at this point by any stretch.
Can't comment for Broten since I didn't see him up close and in person, but I saw a lot of Weight in Edmonton of course, and he really was a bit of a point collector to be honest. A good player and a top line center that many teams would gladly take, but never the guy who could carry a team. I haven't done any research, but my perception of Weight just from watching him over the years was that he'd come through with three points in a 5-1 win and then go pointless in a 2-1 loss. It came as no surprise to me that the Oilers had almost an identical record in the last year they had Weight and the first year after he left (for basically nothing). Mike Comrie's 60-ish points in 2001-02 (he took over the #1 center spot) had more of an impact than Weight's 90 did in 2000-01 just based on the timing of them.
Stanley was one of the 4th line RW players I was looking for. However, his stats arn't that impressive compare to other RW pré-NHL players still available and I don't have a lot of 'written' infos on him. I'm sure you or someone else could provide us with what you've got on him, it would be greatly appreciated.
That's because he was an RW/D.
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And no need to spread the responsibility around, VanI. My bad...I should've been more diligent in making sure Egan wasn't selected, but I'm more than happy with my re-pick anyway.
