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05-20-2009, 12:18 PM
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All-Time Caps Team

If you were to build an All-Time Capitals team, what would your team be? Mine would be:

Offense

Ovechkin - Oates - Gartner

Semin - Backstrom - Bondra

Pivonka - Gustafsson - Maruk

Konawalchuk - Hunter - Ciccarelli


Defense

Stevens - Langway

Johansson - Hatcher

Murphy - Gonchar

Iafrate


Goaltenders

Kolzig

Beaupre

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05-20-2009, 12:29 PM
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I think Mike Ridley should be in there with Kelly Miller on a line.

Pivonka and Maruk out and Ridley and Kelly Miller in. Maruk was before my time and I do not know him very well, but I know Ridley was a beast for us and Kelly Miller should have been a Selke candidate.

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05-20-2009, 12:31 PM
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I had a very hard time keeping both Ridley and Miller out, as well as Carpenter. Those three would make the perfect line too.

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Yeah Ridley was highly underrated and I wish things ended up better for him. He as an awesome Cap.

The days when the Caps played physical and scored through gritty work. He was a great Cap and a fan favorite before Bondra.



For those fans who do not know of Mike Ridley, see link below. 547 points in 588 games with the Caps,almost a pt per game.


http://washingtoncapitalslegends.blo...ke-ridley.html

Carpenter I would have to disagree, he had like maybe a few of years of being good? One 50 goal season and that was that I think.

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The all time team should be a team, meaning a checking line and an energy line. a pp unit and a pk unit.

I would be torn between Konowalchuk-Halpern-Dahlen and Kelly Miller-Mike Ridley-Bobby Gould. But....here is mine.

Ovechkin-Backstrom-Gartner
Semin-Pivonka-Bondra
Konowalchuk-Halpern-Dahlen
Berube-Hunter-Brashear

Stevens-Langway
Green-Tinordi
Iafrate-Johansson

Kolzig-Ranford

I have to say that Gustafsson is my all time favorite player and he is better than either Pivonka, who is a center and not a wing, or Halpern. However, Pivonka was Bondra's spark and Kono and Dahlen were as good as they were as a 3rd line because Halpern was at center ice. Oates is also better then either of those two, but i did this with team chemistry in mind as well.

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05-20-2009, 12:45 PM
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Man your fourth line would be in the penalty box all the time, hehehe.


But reading the articles on hockey legend really makes me miss Ridley and Bondra.

GMGM and Ted should show some class and retire his jersey next year.

We are lucky to have a bunch of classy guys that have been Caps, too bad they never got the recognition they deserved. If the internet and Youtube were around Bondra would be more favored back then.

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Berube - Hunter - Brashear

LOL, gotta love it!

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Ovechkin-Backstrom-Gartner
Ovechkin-Oates-Bondra
Ovechkin-Carpenter-Cicarelli
Ovechkin-Hunter-Ridley

Stevens-Langway
Green-Tinordi
Iafrate-Ovechkin*

Kolzig-Beaupre


*I realize this could cause a problem with him quadruple shifting, but I think he can pull it off.

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However, Pivonka was Bondra's spark
That's a good point, and as much as I like the idea of the Semin - Backstrom - Bondra line, Bondra's struggles with Oates makes me wonder if it would work in practice.

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Mike Ridley would be good with Bondra, he could make plays and shoot.

Oates just passed it off and I think teams knew it. I think that is why it is critical for Backstrom to shoot and not dump it to Ovi all the time.

But the Ridler was a great play maker as well.

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Forwards
Ovechkin - Oates - Bondra
Gartner - Backstrom - Maruk
Ciccarelli - Juneau - Carpenter
Miller - Ridley - Semin

Defense
Stevens - Langway
Murphy - Hatcher
Iafrate - Gonchar

Goalies
Kolzig
Beaupre
Liut
Peeters

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Ovechkin - Backstrom - Gartner
Semin - Oates - Bondra
Miller - Ridley - Konowalchuk
Berube - Hunter - Ciccarelli

Iafrate - Langway
Stevens - Green
Johanson - Tinordi

Kolzig
Tabaracci (though only because he's one of the coolest players I've ever had a chance to talk to, even if he doesn't truly belong on this list)

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This is only including guys who played a significant part of the best parts of their careers as Caps. Also the focus is on chemistry and functioning as a team. Some very good players have been left off because they wouldn't be good 3rd or 4th line players like Maruk.

F1 Ovechkin-Gustafsson-Bondra

Gustafsson at his peak is better than Backstrom is now and is the best all-around Cap center ever. Backstrom is a very similar player and he should pass Bengt in a few more years. Another one to consider here is Oates because he was so good at elevating goal scorers (Hull, Neely) to another level. What might he have done with Ovy and Bondra? He played too passive a game for my liking and I just prefer Gustafssonís overall game. For those who would consider Gartner here, Bondra was a much better offensive player than Gartner.

F2 Semin-Backstrom-Halpern

Putting Halpern on this wing was a swag. I was looking for a fast, decently skilled mucker. There might be better fits.

F3 Miller-Ridley-Gartner

This is the main checking line. Lots of speed (except Ridley) and defensive smarts. Ridley and Miller were a great pair. Gartner would fit them to a tee; a hard worker who had great physical talent but not enough creativity or flair to flourish on a really good top line.

F4 Konowalchuk-Hunter-Gould

This is the energy/pest line and also a 2nd checking line. Gould was renowned for handling Super Mario.

D1 Langway-Green

Langway is a perfect foil for Green.

D2 Stevens-Gonchar

This could also be the top pair. Stevens was the Caps best all-around defensemen ever as well as their most intense. He is the one player I never saw quit regardless of how bad a game was going. My favorite player ever.

D3 Johansson-Tinordi

Calle could do it all but was a finesse player. Tinordi complements Calle perfectly.

PP1 Ovechkin-Gustafsson-Stevens-Gonchar-Bondra

The Caps have never had really good Holmstrom/Franzen type players. Stevens played wing on the PP for a year or two early in his career and he was great as a crease jammer. Bondra was a great point man. So is Ovy but I like him better further down where he can snap/wrist the puck more and slap it less.

PP2 Konowalchuk-Backstrom-Semin-Johansson-Green

Kono is there as the goalie pest. Hunter could go there also.

PK1 Miller-Ridley-Langway-Stevens

A great unit. Two of the best pk d-men I've ever seen.

PK2 Konowalchuk-Gould-Johansson-Tinordi

Bengt and Bondra could be used up front as well if the team was down.

G1 - Kolzig
G2 - Beaupre

The teamís weakest link along with not having an elite center.

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Oh and the coach would be Bryan Murray.

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Gustafsson at his peak is better than Backstrom is now and is the best all-around Cap center ever.
Thank you.

Any All-Time Caps team without Bengt Gustafsson is simply not credible.

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This is only including guys who played a significant part of the best parts of their careers as Caps. Also the focus is on chemistry and functioning as a team. Some very good players have been left off because they wouldn't be good 3rd or 4th line players like Maruk.

F1 Ovechkin-Gustafsson-Bondra

Gustafsson at his peak is better than Backstrom is now and is the best all-around Cap center ever. Backstrom is a very similar player and he should pass Bengt in a few more years. Another one to consider here is Oates because he was so good at elevating goal scorers (Hull, Neely) to another level. What might he have done with Ovy and Bondra? He played too passive a game for my liking and I just prefer Gustafssonís overall game. For those who would consider Gartner here, Bondra was a much better offensive player than Gartner.

F2 Semin-Backstrom-Halpern
Putting Halpern on this wing was a swag. I was looking for a fast, decently skilled mucker. There might be better fits.

F3 Miller-Ridley-Gartner

This is the main checking line. Lots of speed (except Ridley) and defensive smarts. Ridley and Miller were a great pair. Gartner would fit them to a tee; a hard worker who had great physical talent but not enough creativity or flair to flourish on a really good top line.

F4 Konowalchuk-Hunter-Gould

This is the energy/pest line and also a 2nd checking line. Gould was renowned for handling Super Mario.

D1 Langway-Green

Langway is a perfect foil for Green.

D2 Stevens-Gonchar

This could also be the top pair. Stevens was the Caps best all-around defensemen ever as well as their most intense. He is the one player I never saw quit regardless of how bad a game was going. My favorite player ever.

D3 Johansson-Tinordi

Calle could do it all but was a finesse player. Tinordi complements Calle perfectly.

PP1 Ovechkin-Gustafsson-Stevens-Gonchar-Bondra

The Caps have never had really good Holmstrom/Franzen type players. Stevens played wing on the PP for a year or two early in his career and he was great as a crease jammer. Bondra was a great point man. So is Ovy but I like him better further down where he can snap/wrist the puck more and slap it less.

PP2 Konowalchuk-Backstrom-Semin-Johansson-Green

Kono is there as the goalie pest. Hunter could go there also.

PK1 Miller-Ridley-Langway-Stevens

A great unit. Two of the best pk d-men I've ever seen.

PK2 Konowalchuk-Gould-Johansson-Tinordi

Bengt and Bondra could be used up front as well if the team was down.

G1 - Kolzig
G2 - Beaupre

The teamís weakest link along with not having an elite center.
I like Dave Christian on the wing there...


I see Dino C. as the best Holmstrom type player we've had.

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Great breakdown, very thorough. We need to find a place for Dino though. He was a major pest with 40 goal hands, and he would give any goalie in the league fits on the PP.

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I like Dave Christian on the wing there...


I see Dino C. as the best Holmstrom type player we've had.
At first I didn't see a spot for Dino as either a 1st line player or on the 3rd or 4th lines due to not being good defensively and not being fast. But his scrappiness and net-front presence is a need on this "team" and on the 2nd line. He'd also replace Kono on PP2. You and Gus are right.

Christian? Never really liked him myself. Decent skill but not elite and he was not a grinder to compensate. I remember him being sneaky at finding openings and getting off decent snap shots. A perimeter player who relied on others to do the dirty work.

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The all time team should be a team, meaning a checking line and an energy line. a pp unit and a pk unit.

I would be torn between Konowalchuk-Halpern-Dahlen and Kelly Miller-Mike Ridley-Bobby Gould. But....here is mine.

Ovechkin-Backstrom-Gartner
Semin-Pivonka-Bondra
Konowalchuk-Halpern-Dahlen
Berube-Hunter-Brashear

Stevens-Langway
Green-Tinordi
Iafrate-Johansson

Kolzig-Ranford

I have to say that Gustafsson is my all time favorite player and he is better than either Pivonka, who is a center and not a wing, or Halpern. However, Pivonka was Bondra's spark and Kono and Dahlen were as good as they were as a 3rd line because Halpern was at center ice. Oates is also better then either of those two, but i did this with team chemistry in mind as well.

Dino over Gartner

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At first I didn't see a spot for Dino as either a 1st line player or on the 3rd or 4th lines due to not being good defensively and not being fast. But his scrappiness and net-front presence is a need on this "team" and on the 2nd line. He'd also replace Kono on PP2. You and Gus are right.

Christian? Never really liked him myself. Decent skill but not elite and he was not a grinder to compensate. I remember him being sneaky at finding openings and getting off decent snap shots. A perimeter player who relied on others to do the dirty work.
He's better than Halpern as a 2nd line RW...that's all I was implying.

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He's better than Halpern as a 2nd line RW...that's all I was implying.
That's fair enough.

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what? No Jagr.

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Berube Hunter May
Kypreos Kaminski Kastelic
Simon Murray Peat
Brashear Walter Kordic
Ovi

Stevens Holt
Tinordi Rouse
Ciccone Sheehy
Schofield

Kolzig
Riggo

Wow coming up with 4 centers was tough

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what? No Jagr.
Her backhand was decent but her serve was weak.

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If you were to build an All-Time Capitals team, what would your team be? Mine would be:

Offense

Ovechkin - Oates - Gartner

Semin - Backstrom - Bondra

Pivonka - Gustafsson - Maruk

Konawalchuk - Hunter - Ciccarelli


Defense

Stevens - Langway

Johansson - Hatcher

Murphy - Gonchar

Iafrate


Goaltenders

Kolzig

Beaupre
how bout green, jagr, and semin

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